4Runner vs. Hummer

[dapnthr89]

Ok, this is my first post and I know I might get hammered for even asking this but bare with me. I am considering either the H3 or the 2005 4Runner Sport... i love em both.

Im a recent grad so I dont have much to be throwing around but I can afford about 450-500/month payments... what are your thoughts?

[dapnthr89]

Ok, this is my first post and I know I might get hammered for even asking this but bare with me. I am considering either the H3 or the 2005 4Runner Sport... i love em both.

Im a recent grad so I dont have much to be throwing around but I can afford about 450-500/month payments... what are your thoughts?

[HummerNewbie]

What do you have to put down? Are you willing to lease or do you want to buy? Unless you are putting a lot down, I hate to say it but you would probably more likely be able to afford a 4 Runner and not an H3 http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[dapnthr89]

i wanna put down about $2,000 - $3,000 plus whatever I can trade in for my peice of crap 1995 3000GT for which Im hoping for $1,500 - $2,000 for that

and I want to buy

[HummerNewbie]

If you went with an H3, do you know what you want, such as Base, Adventure or Lux and then what options on top of that. Basically, have you priced out what you want to buy?

[wannabeH3]

bought mine for like 40 otd and my payment is 560

[dapnthr89]

all I want is black with a sunroof..dont really care about the rest and will add on later if I want.

I know the base is 29 and that Im probably looking around 32-33 with sunroof

[HummerNewbie]

Ok, if you went with a base model with the only option being the sunroof, you would be looking at a sticker of $30,300 + Tax, Tag... If you put down the minimum you mentioned of $3500, then you should be able to get the payment close to $500. Really all depends on the interest rate as well. Personally, I would go with the H3. I have also gone and looked at the 4 Runner and do like them but not nearly as much as the H3. Not even close http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Good luck.

[dapnthr89]

Thanks, Im gonna visit both dealerships again on Saturday!

[richk]

I seriously considered the 4-Runner several times, but after sitting in it and driving it, one feeling came over me - boring. It's a great SUV and Toyota makes the best quality vehicles on the road, but "boring" describes almost every vehicle they make.

My wife drives a 2004 Sequoia and she loves it. I drive it almost every weekend when we got out as a family (it can seat 6 easily). It drives great and is super comfortable. We take it on all long road trips. So I get the best of both worlds. I drive my H3 during the week and the Toyota on the weekends.

[Georgemarc]

Once you are in a H3, how can you go anywhere else?

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richk:
I seriously considered the 4-Runner several times, but after sitting in it and driving it, one feeling came over me - boring. It's a great SUV and Toyota makes the best quality vehicles on the road, but "boring" describes almost every vehicle they make.
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I would have to agree. They are good vehicle but personally I think when the changed the body last time they made it too much like a car and not enough like a SUV. Just seems like a tall station wagon to me.

[ChevyHighPerformance]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richk:
I seriously considered the 4-Runner several times, but after sitting in it and driving it, one feeling came over me - boring. It's a great SUV and Toyota makes the best quality vehicles on the road, but "boring" describes almost every vehicle they make. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"Toyota makes the best quality vehicles on the road" - Does this include Prius owners???

[richk]

Well I don't want to start a big debate about quality, I was speaking in general of course. I recently read an actual quote from a high ranking exec at Ford something to the effect "we will at the same quality level as Toyota by 2006". And just last week I read a similar quote by a Hyundai exec.

Don't get me wrong I love my H3, but I am grown up enough to accept that GM's quality is not the tops in the world. They have come a long way and are closing the gap...

[Jersey Guy]

Just get them both LOL Only kidding well I have the 03 4 runner limited V8 $38,000 and love it.It's got great power and drives like a car takes the road like no other SUV that I have ever been in #1 in my book.Gave it to my wife because I feel it is a safe truck.Just picked up the H3 recently Msrp $35,459 I love this truck too, you feel like nothing can stop you it is built solid when you get a chance crawl under there and look at that frame OMG is that solid it has great goodies like XM Monsoon sunroof all a must have the interior looks good also did I mention it looks badass the power is ok just have to get use to it. a V6 would have been the bomb.This truck is also safe but I want to break it in first it does want to get away from you on rough road but thats because of the solid axle and off road package.Good luck hope I didnt confuse you.http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/cobra227/nexttoa.jpg

[jkH1+H2=H3]

I was flipping back and forth like a fish out of water when I was reading everyone elses thoughts. Well, the big mistake you made, was the photo!!!!
rice burners are awsome long lasting vehicles,
My suzuki xl7 has over 220,000 miles and still going, no major problems,fuel it, change the oil, change the brake pads, rotate the tires.
unbelieveable. By all means its not a off road monster.
Well, I bought my H3, And let me tell you if your a hummer addict, And I can't afford H2 or H1 payments, the H3 fullfills me. I feel part of the Hummer Family.
First, Think about your intensions with the vehicle, Are you into the Hummer Thing, Getting a hummmer in a hummer is like nothing else!!!
The toyota is not going to get the BABES.
My vote H3- Basic package with Adventure Pack for alittle more, and add bling when you can afford it. Simply said.!!!

[Showtyme5]

Yeah, the quality in the Hummer is really good though. My friends, who are Mercedes freaks, took a ride in the new H3 and were really impressed with the interior. It's flush, no gaps, clean looking, nice, easy to use, and the leather is soft and looks great. The Hummer's have better quality than a Chevy or GMC, that's for sure. That's actually a big reason I got the car. It was way nicer than the Yukons, Trailblazers, and Tahoes that I was looking at.....I mean it's not a Benz and it's not a luxury vehicle, but the luxury package makes it look pretty damn nice.....for a HUMMER!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richk:
Well I don't want to start a big debate about quality, I was speaking in general of course. I recently read an actual quote from a high ranking exec at Ford something to the effect "we will at the same quality level as Toyota by 2006". And just last week I read a similar quote by a Hyundai exec.

Don't get me wrong I love my H3, but I am grown up enough to accept that GM's quality is not the tops in the world. They have come a long way and are closing the gap... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Showtyme5]

Anyways, get the HUMMER if you can afford it bro. It's like having your own personal mini-tank http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[jkH1+H2=H3]

I agree with showtyme for sure. Im nervous about the GM attribute aspect of the H3 being a long lasting Quality vehicle.I hope the corporate suits are keeping to there word about all hummers to part of the H1 heritage. Right now I baby mine. I beat the suzuki. ??? I certainly support HUMMER, I would never by any other GM Vehicle. Sorry! food for thought.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Showtyme5:
Anyways, get the HUMMER if you can afford it bro. It's like having your own personal mini-tank http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats funny because the Orlando dealership actually has one on the showroom floor http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[richk]

GM certainly seems to have raised their game with the H3. The fit and finish of mine is the best I have seen in a GM product. I think the exterior and interior styling is excellent.

[Georgemarc]

I agree with you Rich, regardless of the past, GM has made it with the H3

[jkH1+H2=H3]

RichK, I hope your on the Money...I am looking for the Bean Counter syndrome with the H3.
Sorry, I am going to challenge there quality.
Staples in the wheel wells to hold my H3's under gard protection between the front wheels and the engine, struts, shock area. ???
Don't buy a new car on a Monday or a Friday..

[richk]

I think everyone will agree that the H3's reliability and quality can only be determined by the passing of time (time will tell). But GM has really hit one out the ballpark in the styling department.

I would like to recall this experience that I had last month that I will never forget.

(this took place amount 1 month ago)
So I took my dad out for lunch on Sunday to tell him that I was getting a new truck. Now mind you, I have been changing vehicles about every 6 months for the past several years. In the past 2 years I had a Dodge Durango, Jeep Wrangler, Toyota Tundra Double Cab, and Nissan Pathfinder. So needless to say I usually get the "not another new purchase" speech. I told him that I had ordered a new H3 and that it would take about a month for it to come in. He of course asked a million questions in a desperate attempt to determine if I was losing my mind. What on earth could possibly make me lose more money switching cars again? Finally he asked if we could stop by the local Hummer dealer after lunch so he could see an H3 in person.

Now remember this was a Sunday and the dealership would be closed, so we knew all we could do was look thru the windows. We parked on a side street near the dealer (the parking lot was closed). When we turned the corner to the dealership we were both amazed at what we saw. There were load of guys, many with their families, mulling around looking at the parked H3's (they only had 3). My Dad said "what the hell are all these people doing here when the dealership is closed". I explained to him that they were all anxious to get a look at the new H3. It was at that point that both of us knew that GM had something special in the H3. They had designed a vehicle that made people take notice.

Should you get an H3, well you would certainly be getting something unique in the automotive world.

[Georgemarc]

Saw my first one on the road at 1:00PM one day and signed the papers for one that evening and took possession the next day. Nobody believed that all this transpired in less than 24 hours. Kudos to Sewell Dallas

[CLAYDOG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by richk:
Well I don't want to start a big debate about quality, I was speaking in general of course. I recently read an actual quote from a high ranking exec at Ford something to the effect "we will at the same quality level as Toyota by 2006". And just last week I read a similar quote by a Hyundai exec.

Don't get me wrong I love my H3, but I am grown up enough to accept that GM's quality is not the tops in the world. They have come a long way and are closing the gap... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

In the latest J.D Powers initial quality report G.M. came in a close second to Toyota over all, with 8 models best in class. The worst ranked GM product was the Pontiac Vibe, that’s built by Toyota at a Toyota plant for GM. In long term quality (3 years old) GM edged Toyota out for the #1 spot, but I don’t remember the #s off hand. The quality build you’re seeing in the H3 is happening across GMs line up as each platform is up dated.

[HummerNewbie]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
The worst ranked GM product was the Pontiac Vibe, that’s built by Toyota at a Toyota plant for GM. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is funny as hell http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Guess they don't put much care into building things when they won't have their name on it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Steve R]

This isn't going to be a popular position, but I'm gonna say it anyways:

If you can't afford to BUY the vehicle and own it cash-out, then you simply can't afford the vehicle.

I'd suggest looking for a 3-4 year-old vehicle, a lease-return. Something used, but in good condition and low mileage. You can probably get a good 5-6 years out of it with minimal maintainance and upkeep.

No, it's not exciting & new, but you'll be dollars ahead and in a stronger position when it comes time to buy a home.

Dare to be dull... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif