What needs the most improvement on your H2? [Archive]

KenP

10-27-2003, 12:59 AM

As I posted on your other thread:

Hey, who are you and why are you asking these questions with in your first two posts?

I think you either 1)work for GM, 2)work for another manufacturer, 3)are involved with some left wing hate group, or 4) are involved with some other 4x4 group and want to use this info for fun at our expense.

Prove me wrong little fellow.

Black Lingenfelter Lux

uniblack

10-27-2003, 01:05 AM

KenP,

I can't push one over on you can I? To answer your question, I do work for General Motors. I'm interested to see how the buying public feels about the state of the H2 from a design and engineering standpoint. Any information you could add to this post is much appreciated.

Thanks,

[[uniblack]]

KenP

10-27-2003, 01:51 AM

Thanks.

Love the truck, but obviously wanted more power. I went just a smidge over the top.

More ground clearance would be nice and that darn banging key on the dash thing...

Black Lingenfelter Lux

Andy C

10-27-2003, 03:55 AM

I have done about 28000 miles now - no complaints really - until I read about the key banging on the dash - I had not even noticed that until yesterday - it is now driving me nuts - thanks fellas.

Larry

10-27-2003, 04:12 AM

I don't have an H2, but I do have an opinion none the less. Of course it is too early to make a definitive call, but it seems to me that MORE options are in order. According to the survey some feel just fine with the way it is. Others have strong opinions on what needs to be changed.

You can tell that for some the H2 is probably just one of many 4X4's that they have owned, and they know what they would have wanted differently. For others it is their first 4X4 and they don't know any difference. There is of course nothing wrong with either crowd of people. Pleasing both groups is certainly a challenge.

It is too late at night, and too early in the survey to type anymore.

BTW I too thought you had quite a good question for a newbie.

Larry

GOD made some men strong and other men weak, but this here keyboard makes us all equal.

I want to discover America one rock at a time.

argonaut

10-27-2003, 04:15 AM

If the keys banging drives you nuts, look at the steering wheel position in relation to the seat. It is off center... muwahahahaha

'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
'03 BMW M3 Convertible
'02 BMW M5

DRTYFN

10-27-2003, 04:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by uniblack:
KenP,

I can't push one over on you can I? To answer your question, I do work for General Motors. I'm interested to see how the buying public feels about the state of the H2 from a design and engineering standpoint. Any information you could add to this post is much appreciated.

Thanks,

[[uniblack]]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Until we have some sort of authentication I call BS!!
Contact Jason for verification and if Jason says you're legitimate then you could email some us privately for confidential feedback.

Andy C

10-27-2003, 04:47 AM

Argo - you Bastard

Steve R

10-27-2003, 06:03 AM

KenP....what's the lucky lotto numbers bro??? Cause you're all dialed-in and on it!!!!

I have to entirely concur with Buddy...more clearance, stronger front-end...and how about stepping-up to speed with the G-box and giving us a front-locker too!!!! These are supposed to be the ultimate 4x4's???

I see stock Tacoma's going down the street with more clearance then we have...yet the passenger seat and general compartment sits much lower.

I've pulled-up next to raised Bronco's and other raised vehicles...and we sit about eye-to-eye, yet they have much more clearance under their belly. Even with my height-control "up"...I still drag this thing all over rocks and am banging-up my frame. MORE CLEARANCE!!!

Given the elevation hike upto the seats...we should have way more clearance under the belly!

I'm happy with the power and the interior more then meets my needs. Some side-molding to protect our doors would be nice too.

uniblack

10-27-2003, 11:44 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by uniblack:
KenP,

I can't push one over on you can I? To answer your question, I do work for General Motors. I'm interested to see how the buying public feels about the state of the H2 from a design and engineering standpoint. Any information you could add to this post is much appreciated.

Thanks,

[[uniblack]]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Until we have some sort of authentication I call BS!!
Contact Jason for verification and if Jason says you're legitimate then you could email some us privately for confidential feedback.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'll tell you all now that I am an employee of the General. For reasons of confidentiality I will not disclose my name to any of you. If you would like to e-mail me, please feel free to at: technofreak@ameritech.net. If you don't want to participate in this forum discussion that is fine. If you do, it would be much appreciated.

I thank all the people that have given feedback so far,

[[uniblack]]

Bad Dawg

10-27-2003, 12:07 PM

I echo Buddy's comments about the suspension (which goes for my 1 ton Dually Duramax too!). Also, the headliner flops up and down so much it has popped one of the hold down (hold up) buttons off. The whole thing is WAY too loose. Oh, and put a smaller bulb in the hi-beam indicator on the dash.

You can never have enough horsepower! Yellow LUX, Airforce intake, stainless headers and exhaust, Gobi rack and ladder, roof mounted off road lights, full wrap brush guard, rear light guards, outside tire carrier, Rancho 4" suspension lift, Ultra "EN4CER" 17x9 wheels, Goodyear 37/12.50R17 MT/R tires, removed side-step bars, 9.5ti warn multi-mount winch.

1BADH2

10-27-2003, 12:24 PM

My 6.0 has good power but I think you should offer a diesel. I would have taken that over the gas any day.

PARAGON

10-27-2003, 01:09 PM

The power is lacking especially when considering the mpg is in the low teens. I have a 2001 XL Denali with a 6.0L and the difference in throttle response is remarkable even though the two weigh relatively the same. The Denali's rear end is a 3.73 which would make you think that the H2 should have more seat of the pants torque.

<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>More power
<LI>I solved the key fob problem by using a small ring and only 2 keys. The rest of me keys are on a separate ring.
<LI>Mine was built in July of 2002 and the headlights were almost dangerous they were so bad.
<LI>Wind noise from the plastic windshield shroud, the running lights, the antennas and other plastic items that flap are not indicative of a $50,000+ vehicle.
<LI>Overall too much plastic
<LI>Why not independent suspension all the way around?
<LI>Wiper arms need to take the pressure off of the blades when not in use
<LI>Stock tire pressure monitor (at least) and/or push-button inflate/deflate
<LI>Back-up sensors like on other SUV's in the same price range
<LI>....overall, just more attention to detail[/list]

I love my H2 and wouldn't trade it for anything, but there is plenty of room for improvement and I am sure other members will continue to list some of the gripes and complaints that have been discussed over the past year.

By the way, it would seem that this site and club needs to become the official Hummer H2 club and forum since it is leaps and bounds above the "official" hummer club.

Doug

10-27-2003, 02:29 PM

Paragon says it well, just more attention to detail.
I will add:

headliner needs more support.
center storage lid should flip open towards the back and it needs padding.
cup holders need work, can never get that cup out easily. I actually cut slots in the rubber.

Doug
2003 Metalic Red H2
Adventure Series. w/navigation/Sat Radio/Winch

Centerfire

10-27-2003, 05:31 PM

Can never have to much power... Don't expect performance like my S2000, however it wouild be noce if it had a little better chance of getting out of it's own way.

PS. To you buggers who brought up the key clicking thing. Thanks.. never noticed until you mentioned.. now it bugs me too!

Mike

89vette

10-27-2003, 07:22 PM

Paragon summed it up well. The exterior I like. The plastic bumpers do not bother me except for the cheap extensions on the front. WTH is that about? Other items for me are:

1. Banging key FOB is just poor engineering
2. Lack of storage space
3. No place for change or hooks for sport coats.
4. Door panels and dash pieces are not even up to Yugo standards. This is a problem with all GM products except Cadillac cars seem to be OK.
5. More power needed. My Escalade is like driving a sports car compared to the H2 and it averages 2.5 MPG better.
6. Duramax as an option
7. Better NAV system and XM standard
8. Back up sonar sensors. How much could these cost? They can save lives and make backing up much less dangerous. I have the habit of waiting for the bells to warn me when I am about to ram something then I realize I'm in my car and not the wifes! This is going to get me sooner or later.
9. Tie rods are a joke. What were they thinking? Those look like the same rod ends for 1/2 tons.
10. Hi beam indicator way too bright as other have said.
11. Lights should be HID's.
12. Better looking AC vents.

I think most of us here would still buy another one. I only buy GM products and am brand loyal. I think GM products have improved over the last decade but your interiors still suck.

Most of my driving is on road. I did take my H2 off road a few times and it does everything I need it to.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

KenP

10-27-2003, 08:40 PM

Hey, I like the boobs....
I mean a/c vents http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Black Lingenfelter Lux

Jigga

10-27-2003, 09:14 PM

just flip your key ring back over the key when it is in the ignition and that will fix that problem. it can't bang around if it can't move at all, or you can just turn the radio up real loud and forget about it http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

2003 Pewter H2 with Adventure Package.
Go Auburn, War Eagle!

unaslob

10-27-2003, 10:01 PM

kenP thanks for saying it.. I am tired of calling the h2 my girl, when she has four tits in the front and two in the rear... freaky!!!

seriously though...
1) duramax option would be great (would never fit without some serious redesigns in the front end)

2) FOG LIGHTS????

3) get rid of those plastic bumper extenders in the front... they are terrible...

4) auto vol???

5) I think the sunvisor is too big... if I lower it, it occludes almost half of the viewing area of the windshield.

una

DRTYFN

10-28-2003, 12:28 AM

HOPE ALL OF YOU GUYS THAT ARE PROVIDING INFO & OPINIONS FOR THIS GUY REALIZE YOU'RE MOST LIKELY HELPING OUT ANOTHER MANUFACTURER OR WORSE YET PROVIDING ALL THE MATERIAL FOR SOME SCUMBAG JOURNALIST TO WRITE A HACK PIECE ON OUR BELOVED H2S.

WAIT FOR AUTHENTICATION THROUGH JASON OR STEVE R!!!!!!

ZeroTolerance

10-28-2003, 12:37 AM

I still think he is FOS too... No need for private topics, if you can't say it out in the open then don't say it at all...
sniff sniff.... TROLL!!!!!!!

DRTYFN

10-28-2003, 12:43 AM

Dare I say, at the risk of being branded a racist, a Japanese troll? There I said it. I have a feeling he's a dirty sh*t covered japanese troll. Can't wait to see how the japanese try to rip off the H2 design.

Dennis & Dan, please pray for my racist soul. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ZeroTolerance

10-28-2003, 12:44 AM

No need to pray for you my son, the TRUTH shall set you free....... HAHAHAHAHA

DRTYFN

10-28-2003, 12:53 AM

HAHA, I just like poking at my two religious nut buddies.
You guys are my buddies, right?

H2 Daddy

10-28-2003, 01:00 AM

Give us the full 345 hp like the Escalade 6 litter. Better yet, give us 400 hp and displacement-on-demand.

rpv

10-28-2003, 02:06 AM

1. the rust problem should be corrected.
2. better gas milage.
3. raise the front end/suspension 3-5 inches.
4. full third row seat.
5. detachable middle row seats.
6. cassette player.
7. improve the flimsy air con vents.
8. real fog lights.
9. loud horn.
10. deisel engine.
thats all...
rpv

DennisAJC

10-28-2003, 02:21 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Dare I say, at the risk of being branded a racist, a Japanese troll? There I said it. I have a feeling he's a dirty sh*t covered japanese troll. Can't wait to see how the japanese try to rip off the H2 design.

Dennis & Dan, please pray for my racist soul. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dis is a mista Hakkagooa san of Toyota Corporation. You Mista Drty willa burn in hell you racist round eye pinka skinned pig.

LOL...Hey my wife is Japanese! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

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"You have a tawyt body...yesh yesh....tawyt...lawyk a tawyger"
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DRTYFN

10-28-2003, 06:24 AM

Just to clarify things so there's no misunderstandings, I was referring to japanese automakers not people.
Thank you and good night. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Dan

10-28-2003, 10:23 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Dare I say, at the risk of being branded a racist, a Japanese troll? There I said it. I have a feeling he's a dirty sh*t covered japanese troll. Can't wait to see how the japanese try to rip off the H2 design.

Dennis & Dan, please pray for my racist soul. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Huh? Since when did I become a bible pusher? I think youre talking about SUTJim??

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Jason

10-28-2003, 12:29 PM

As mentioned in the "What side of the H2 Fence are you on?" - Uniblack seems to be legit.

He passed on a phone number to me, that was "owned" by GM and I was able to get in touch with him.

Feel free to participate in these discussions with some confidence that it will be used for good, not evil!

Jason

KenP

10-28-2003, 01:34 PM

Thanks Jason. Was waiting for you to weigh in on this, among other things.

Black Lingenfelter Lux

DRTYFN

10-28-2003, 02:45 PM

If Jason feels that Uniblack is legitimate then I apologize for jumping him.
I still feel it would be better to conduct this in a more private manner. Too many H2 haters out there.

ZeroTolerance

10-28-2003, 03:27 PM

I still think he is FOS and should be keel-hulled...I am a man of many words but I have nothing to hide and I never say you have to talk to me in private about stuff.. If you are legit, then prove it, what do you do for GM and what dept, how long, numbers to contact for reference, etc........................
No info, no truth, no compassion from me. Step up or step off....

unaslob

10-29-2003, 12:47 AM

install an air tank for the compressor. i did not get the adventure package... kinda glad I didnt now.. I have heard the compressor is weak... it takes 20 minutes to bring the tires back from 20PSI....

I had my own compressor installed and larger airtank... LOVE IT!!! can air up in just a minute or two

plus if you are combing the forum... you would know I have a pretty sweet airhorn....with lanyard...

I have had it for about 3 weeks...and use it several times a day... una!

DennisAJC

10-29-2003, 01:14 AM

UNA,

What kind of after market Compressor do you have? How was it set up? Where do you put the tank? Got any pics?

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"You have a tawyt body...yesh yesh....tawyt...lawyk a tawyger"
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KMAzz

10-29-2003, 01:24 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by unaslob:
install an air tank for the compressor. i did not get the adventure package... kinda glad I didnt now.. I have heard the compressor is weak... it takes 20 minutes to bring the tires back from 20PSI....

I had my own compressor installed and larger airtank... LOVE IT!!! can air up in just a minute or two

plus if you are combing the forum... you would know I have a pretty sweet airhorn....with lanyard...

I have had it for about 3 weeks...and use it several times a day... una!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Phil you just use it to scare the crap out of random peds...Don't Lie http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

On topic:
The h2 could use some nice Fog lights...

2003 Yellow H2
1993 Ford Probe GT(SHOW CAR)

John D

10-30-2003, 12:42 AM

If the H2 and the Caddy EXT have the same motor and trans and weight about the same, why does the Caddy have so much more pickup? What simple fix can be done to get the H2 on the same level?
John D. 03 H2

unaslob

10-30-2003, 12:55 AM

I got the compressor that is used for the airhorn that 4wheeldriveacc provides... I bought the compressor from component parts in indiana... the tank I got from them as well.. I went with the 14 inch tank.. the one that 4wheeldriveacc has is too small not very functional...especially if you want to use the horn... plus if you want to use it too fill tires up...

the compressor is under the hood.... the tank is in the rear...actually mounted right where the factory compressor would go... the connection that the 4wheeldriveacc uses for tires is pretty lame... so I had quick disconnects installed in the front next to the tow hook, and in the rear next to the hitch... this great. I would not ever have done it differently.. I have pics.. have to scan them in...hopefully this weekend.. look for a different topic on my install... una

89vette

10-30-2003, 11:42 AM

The H2 weighs 620lbs more than the EXT and has 30 more horses and I think 20 more ft lbs of torque. Plus it does not have as big a tire. The H2 does have 4:11 gears and that should make up for the larger tire. When I jump in the Escalade, I feel like I am driving a go cart. The steerign is so light and it has so much more power.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

MountainH2

10-30-2003, 12:35 PM

Even if he is a troll from a foreign manufacturer, who cares? Where do people look for full-size Trucks and SUV's? American. The foreign jobs are known for econo-box cars, not full-size Trucks/SUV's.
If it's someone else looking for juice, let them. It's not going to change the way we all feel/love about the Hummer.

Improvements
- More Power (diesel Option)
- Beef up the front suspension. Seems to be a weak point.

Yes, there's a lot of plastic, but didn't they build the H2 with the Aftermarket in mind? The H2 has to be one of the biggest Accessory vehicles on the road. You can practically rebuild the thing with all the Accessories floating around.

I still love it!!!

John D

10-30-2003, 01:18 PM

OK 89Vette an GM guy, but where is our missing horsepower and how do we get it back without buying a blower?
John D 03 H2

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 89vette:
The H2 weighs 620lbs more than the EXT and has 30 more horses and I think 20 more ft lbs of torque. Plus it does not have as big a tire. The H2 does have 4:11 gears and that should make up for the larger tire. When I jump in the Escalade, I feel like I am driving a go cart. The steerign is so light and it has so much more power.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

89vette

10-30-2003, 02:02 PM

To achieve the same power to weight ratio the Escalade has, you would need about 385 HP. That is about 70 more HP than we have now. Your not going to get that with an exhaust, air intake and a reprogrammed PCM. Just don't buy it. My Vette has 450+ streetable HP and is bored and stroked to 396 cubic inches (was 350). Besides a blower (which I would not want), you get your biggest bang with ported heads and a better cam along with the air intake, exhaust and recalibrated PCM. Of course the best way to gain power is displacement. Remember there is no replacement for displacement. Yank the 6.0L, bore it, install a Lunati forged crank, rods and forged pistons for 427 cubic inches. Have your heads CNC ported. Install a matching cam, headers and a cat back exhaust and now your talking some serious power. If you don’t go crazy and install a nice street cam, your looking at probably 450-475 HP with over 500 lbft of torque. Yea baby!

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

2slo4now

10-30-2003, 02:53 PM

I wish that the transfer case from the hd1500 and 2500 was standard in the H2. The ability to shift out of 4wd would improve the MPG and performance drastically.

Dan from Alabama

Doesn't snow much down here. Don't mud ride very often either.

buddy

10-30-2003, 03:20 PM

Another thread on Caddy vs H2 Horsepower

http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=6706011751&m=2416021002

89vette

10-30-2003, 04:26 PM

That thread contains bogus info.

The motors in the Caddy and H2 are itentical in bore and stroke. The intake and for the most part the exhaust are the same. The Caddy has a higher compression ratio and a more aggressive cam profile than the H2 motor. I'm sorry but in my experiance, PCM programming will not give you big HP gains. What it will do is maximize your HP when you make drastic changes to your combination. I am talking about custom programming and not Hypertech. I program chips for C4 Corvettes. The things you tweak are timing advance and you lean out the top end. GM set the wide open throttle settings rich because rich is safe (less chance for detonation). There are some other tricks too. If you increase the compression ratio it will be more prone to detonation and you need to run a higher octane fuel. Same goes for increased ignition timing.

I think the real reason the H2 does not have more power than the Escalade is becasue the Escalse is the flagship SUV from GM. Not the Hummer....sorry. Remember the Escalade slogan? Most powerful SUV on the planet? Of course the Cayanne I think wins that if you consider it an SUV.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

Drag

10-30-2003, 08:10 PM

OK, Uniblack. If you do indeed work for GM, then perhaps you could confirm or deny the following;

The last week to order Sage Green or Sunset Orange on an H2 will be 11/3/03. These colors are to be discontinued.

The Lux series will from now on INCLUDE the third row seat as part of the package, and also tail lamp protection will be included in the Lux.

Got any answers for those?

Oh, and p.s., when does the licorice dispenser become a free flow option? I've heard 05. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Corvette= "The ability to pass with class"

John D

10-31-2003, 01:33 AM

89 Vette, what are the differences between the H2 6.0 and the Caddy 6.0, where is that missin HP?
John D. 03 H2, 03 C5 convert, 02 ML55, 02Royale Prevost XLII, seems listing rides is in fashion ML55 is the wifes
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by John D:
OK 89Vette an GM guy, but where is our missing horsepower and how do we get it back without buying a blower?
John D 03 H2

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 89vette:
The H2 weighs 620lbs more than the EXT and has 30 more horses and I think 20 more ft lbs of torque. Plus it does not have as big a tire. The H2 does have 4:11 gears and that should make up for the larger tire. When I jump in the Escalade, I feel like I am driving a go cart. The steerign is so light and it has so much more power.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

89vette

10-31-2003, 12:05 PM

Look a couple posts up.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

John D

10-31-2003, 01:36 PM

89 Vette, I see you tell me how to get more HP, what i would like to know is where is the HP the Caddy has and the H2 does not have? Seems like this is the same motor, could it just have poor air and exhaust flow or does the Caddy have different internal parts (cam, heads, etc)? maybe the GM guy can answer this one.
John D.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by John D:
89 Vette, what are the differences between the H2 6.0 and the Caddy 6.0, where is that missin HP?
John D. 03 H2, 03 C5 convert, 02 ML55, 02Royale Prevost XLII, seems listing rides is in fashion ML55 is the wifes
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by John D:
OK 89Vette an GM guy, but where is our missing horsepower and how do we get it back without buying a blower?
John D 03 H2

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>Originally posted by 89vette:
The H2 weighs 620lbs more than the EXT and has 30 more horses and I think 20 more ft lbs of torque. Plus it does not have as big a tire. The H2 does have 4:11 gears and that should make up for the larger tire. When I jump in the Escalade, I feel like I am driving a go cart. The steerign is so light and it has so much more power.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dan

10-31-2003, 01:42 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote">quote:<HR>
89vette said:

The Caddy has a higher compression ratio and a more aggressive cam profile than the H2 motor.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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89vette

10-31-2003, 07:39 PM

Well I did a little more research on this and it turns out I have egg on my face. The LQ4 and LQ9 engines share the same camshaft and as far I can tell now, the same cylinder heads that are based on the LS6 Corvette head. The Escalade as a slightly higher compression. I have some feelers out there to some people that should know so I'll get back. The difference may be in the higher compression and more aggressive tune. I run 87 octane in the Escalade with no problems.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

hummer17

11-02-2003, 12:38 AM

Get the Nav system right.

Simply use the same setup as the Caddy Escalade - Nav WITH 6-CD changer where the OnStar currently is. Move the OnStar to the rear view mirror.

How hard can that be?

Unbelievable that it takes owners to tell you (GM) the obvious flaws. How you could ever have thought that the 04 Nav setup was complete/good is beyond me.

Get it right in '05 should be your slogan.

DURAMAX TIM

11-02-2003, 11:30 AM

Drag racer, the wife's 04 has the licorice despenser in it.
I'll get pics when I can.

Yell'r 04 Lux w/ air, sunroof,F&R brush bars
Traded 03 White Lux
03 GMC D/A CC SLT LB soon to be 04

DURAMAX TIM

11-02-2003, 03:40 PM

Found this info on Power train website,

The 6.0L LQ9 is a more powerful evolution of the Vortec 6000, developed for Cadillac's luxury sport utility vehicles. GM Powertrain engineers delivered a cost-effective, assembly-efficient alternative to distinguish the 6.0L LQ9 from the LQ4 and deliver the additional power Cadillac wanted: flat-top pistons that increase the compression ratio from 9.4:1 (for the LQ4) to 10.0:1. The Vortec H.O. 6000 gives Escalade and EXT class-leading power at less cost to the customer than competitors’ overhead cam engines. In short, the 6.0L LQ9 is a premium engine befitting a premium brand.

Also this,
FLOATING-PIN PISTON FOR LQ4
The Vortec 6000 (RPO LQ4) is fitted with new floating-pin pistons. Introduced on the Vortec H.O. 6000 (RPO LQ9) for 2002, these pistons feature wrist pins that “float” inside the rod bushing and the pin bores in the piston barrel. Other Vortec V-8s use a fixed-pin assembly, in which the connecting rod is fixed to the piston’s wrist pin, and the pin rotates in the pin bore. In the Vortec 6000s, snap rings retain the wrist pin in the piston, while the rod moves laterally on a bushing around the pin. The floating-pin assembly allows tighter pin-to-pin bore tolerances and reduces noise generated during engine operation.

Application of floating-pin pistons in the Vortec 6000 is accompanied by a changeover, begun in model year 2003, to re-profiled polymer-coated pistons. The polymer material allows tighter piston to cylinder-bore clearances without bore scuffing, extending the benefits of the floating-pin piston and rod assembly and reducing noise generated by the piston’s movement within the cylinder. The net result is a quieter engine.

Here's the site,
http://media.gm.com/division/2004_prodinfo/powertrain/truck/index.html

Yell'r 04 Lux w/ air, sunroof,F&R brush bars
Traded 03 White Lux
03 GMC D/A CC SLT LB soon to be 04

unaslob

11-02-2003, 11:28 PM

89vette,
have you been dabbling with the idea of boring out your h2 engine... that would be the best idea of them all... forget intakes superchargers, programmers...is there anybody out there that has done such a thing??? una

Frank Hewitt

11-03-2003, 12:06 AM

the front pillars, which are reminescent of the H1 (which is their reason for being on the H2) are good looking-- yet these are what I've found to be most commonly the reason for wind noise coming from the outside while at highway speeds.

gasman

Frank Hewitt

11-03-2003, 12:07 AM

not just the wind noise, but actually causing vibration and queaking noise.

gasman

89vette

11-03-2003, 04:08 PM

Unaslob. No I am not thinking about it. Projects like that never end. I learned that from my Vette that is bored and stroked. If I did anything, it would be a heads, cam and exhaust improvements. If money was no object, I'd build a 427 out of it. The company that assembled my Vette shortblock www.moreperformanceinc.com (http://www.moreperformanceinc.com) would build it for me. It's a pricey option though.

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

Zing

11-03-2003, 05:35 PM

GM/Hummer seems to be keenly interested in what customers think about the H2. I got a call this weekend from a very nice Hummer rep asking me what I didn't like in about a dozen specific categories (interior, air, body, etc.). A 10 minute interview with lots of detail. I was happy to spend the time.

I have a few minor nits, but overall I have to say after 5 weeks I am remain completely satisfied with my H2. I love the performance, interior, erotic air vents, suspension, stereo, gas mileage, on and on. It's not only the most capable vehicle I have owned or driven, it is a simply a gorgeous vehicle and a work of art. Surprisingly and after having low expectations about gas mileage and acceleration based my brethren's experience with the 2003, I have been pleasantly surprised by the vehicle's performance. I have seen 17+ MPG and very respectable acceleration from both a standing position and when passing on the highway. Not a whole lot different than my old Jeep Grand Cherokee. I am fairly certain that there are improvements in the 2004 engine and I look forward to someone from Hummer confirming this as it is completely possible that I am in a state of new H2 owner dillusional bliss. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

89vette

11-03-2003, 06:52 PM

Mine gets 17 MPG too if I reset it at the top of the hill and read it at the bottom after I coast down! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

03 Sunset H2!
89 Vette
02 Escalade

Texas Red

11-03-2003, 09:41 PM

Yea, that's right, 17 mpg. Me too . . . in the city. 19 mpg on the hwy. Remember Steve? . . . You were seeing the same.

Yea, that's the ticket.

Jim
Red H2

Orbital H2

11-03-2003, 10:06 PM

I get almost as good of gas mileage as a buddy of mine with a brand new Mitsubishi Evolution, his little 4 banger only gets about 1.5 mpg better than my H2

H2 Black Lux, Air Suspension, AEM Intake, soon to be blacked out...
Black 02 Fatboy
300ZX TT 500Hp, 10.5Sec completely Blacked out, Wolfe Sport 600 Turbo, Billet Aluminum FlyWheel, Carbon Claw RPS Turbo Clutch, Dual Pop Intake, HKS Intercoolers/Exhaust

Frank Hewitt

11-04-2003, 12:40 AM

anyone who posts that they get anything over 12mpg for overall (highway and city) is just full of crap-ola.
anyone who also wants better economy out of a 3 1/2 ton all wheel drive that is shaped like a brick is equally full of the same.....
I personally think that the best improvement that could be made (reallistically) would be removing the rattle and wind noise that the front just-for-looks pillars create and making a locking gas-cap standard. Also, being able to pull the passenger side wiper out for windshield washing --without having to take special care to not take paint off in the process would be good. That's it. And those being the only complaints I can come up with, it still blows my mind that this vehicle isn't more popular by the main-stream buyer, other than the fact that they can't afford one.

gasman