We welcome h2co-pilot to the Exclusive.....

[DennisAJC]

ESCALATOR CLUB!!!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Join the ranks of DRTY, DennisAJC, PhilD, and Paragon.

It takes balls baby! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif We're proud of yew!

[DRTYFN]

CONGRATULATIONS!!!! And she did it with power to 3 wheels.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif But she jellied on Hell's Gate(or rather Ken vetoed ithttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif).

Also, Bebe did HG. Big ups!!

Can't wait to hear about the Lion's Back induced hyperventilating.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[dochummer]

yeeeehaaawww!!!!!

[DDWH]

SWEET!!!

Can't wait to see the pics! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DennisAJC]

Props to Bebe too! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I failed on Hell's Gate. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif



What kind of drugs are these T&A Girls on?

Up next......Lion's Back! Starring H2Rocks! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Mr.Bipolar]

The terrain must have been UNSTABLE.

You really need FRIENDS to spot you because there is no room for APOLIGIES and FORGETFULNESS.

Was there any SWAPPING of ideals between the WIVES????

Must have been scary enough to put you on MEDICATION.



......What was the topic again????

[DennisAJC]

Originally posted by Mr.Bipolar:
The terrain must have been UNSTABLE.

You really need FRIENDS to spot you because there is no room for APOLIGIES and FORGETFULNESS.

Was there any SWAPPING of ideals between the WIVES????

Must have been scary enough to put you on MEDICATION.



......What was the topic again????


Drunky. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[KenP]

Originally posted by DennisAJC:

What kind of drugs are these T&A Girls on? HEEHEEE...

[Ipedog]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
And she did it with power to 3 wheels.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Someone break an axle shaft?

Congrats CP http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

x2 on both the question AND the congrats!

Way to go CP! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Thanks Guys.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Yes, we think. The ((ABS)) and TCX2 light came on earlier on Hell's but we didn't know why. Everyone noticed the drive shaft not moving when I was tipped WAYTF up on my passenger side. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HummerNewbie]

The T&A is kicking ass out there. Way to go!

Sorry about the breakage http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Yeah, it's stuck in 4 low right now. There are a plethera of new noises. The front diff isn't leaking to anything of significance or that I can see at all. On the way down the rest of Hell's the Pass. front tire was rubbing way more on the wheel well/ fender flare than usual also.

The front driver side tire was not moving upon acceleration up there and the back tires were spinning and smoking up at the top.

We'll find out more today at the 4x4 shop. I remember running it a little hard on some significant ledges on a narrow part of Metal Masher on Monday. But the lights came on shortly before the hot tubs on Hell's yesterday. Weird. I guess we'll see. Phil I'm sure Ken will call you later.

[HummerNewbie]

Just make sure that Ken doesn't get another extended vacation or you two will probably never be back out there http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Keep us posted, hope it is a simple fix.

[h2co-pilot]

Exactly like the cards in the bicycle wheels.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif But I 'm not worried about that. I know what that is.

I am hoping that it is not the t-case- obviously. It will not disengage the 4lo lock button- the 4hi will flash when pressed in neutral but will not engage. The gears on the asphalt coming back seemed to be slow or altered even considering it was in 4lo. We did it manually the last block.

But I am still hopeful that it is a computer issue- disconnections of sensors for the abs and ds tire causing it to lock in the current mode. Wishful I know- but t-case sounds worse than CV joint or axel shaft to me.

The boot on the PS front tie-rod has been cracked and the rubber accordion-like grease holder up next to the DS front tire (excuse the lack of tech term) is leaking.

[h2co-pilot]

I am going to fo in the parking lot now and try to push the two buttons to get it in neutral and see what happens....

[h2co-pilot]

It won't go into neutral. The ((ABS)) light and the (TC) lights are still on on the dash.

[h2co-pilot]

Originally posted by sfox:
Pics of both would help...buuuut, it sounds like you broke a CV boot on the DS, not a bad repair, but it needs to be fixed. On the PS tie-rod, did the boot simply pull back from teh tie-rod or did it split down the middle?

S

The the DS tierod boot is cracked on the top. Not a significant leak oe anything- just need a new one. Phil, if I will need one of those sent here if you could.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Ken will call in a little while.


The accordion thing up against the PS front tire is the CV boot right? The one that is dripping green. I will go get some pics.

We are going to drive it slowly to that 4x4 shop in a little while.

Thanks guys.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[h2co-pilot]

No, but that is a good idea. Will do.


In the manual 3-34 the TCS (traction off light) is linked to the abs and could be because the sensor was disconnected or damaged.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
The boot on the PS front tie-rod has been cracked and the rubber accordion-like grease holder up next to the DS front tire (excuse the lack of tech term) is leaking. That sounds like a blown CV, but that doesn't explain why you can't get the t-case out of 4Lo.

Is some going to take a look at it this morning? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am in the middle of looking this up but a thought out loud.

If the CV is gone and you are in 4 LO, the computer is not registering any wheelspin at the tire when it should be, so now the ABS and <STRIKE>TC</STRIKE> lights on the dash are on. Maybe as a result of the CV being gone. So then, the Electronic Brake Control Module is telling the Transfer Case Control Module to not allow any shifting.

[Fubar]

Damn CP & Ken sorry to hear you're having trouble again. Hope it is nothing to serious and you're back to wheeling. CP Congratulations on the ownership of Escalatorhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[BebeDaddy]

All hail the Queen! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

All hail the T&A. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You can all pledge here: http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1726043161/m/2621078671

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[HIHUMMER]

Keep Kicking A$$ Queeny!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Ompus]

Wow.. All I can say is congrats on the Escalator! Haven't been there myself, but it doesn't look easy.

In regards to your "breakage", congrats on that to.. Most Hummer owners will never do enough serious wheelin to break anything! It sort of like a badge of honor in my opinion.

Maybe put a small photo of each part you break on the side of your truck? Maybe also a photo of a little Jeep for everyone that you tow? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by BebeDaddy:
All hail the Queen! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

All hail the T&A. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

You can all pledge here: http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/1726043161/m/2621078671

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif Hollie, this has played now. You can feel free to quit.

[Ipedog]

Hang in there CP. I hope BN is easilly fixable and you guys are back out there soon!

I heart the heavenly T&A Moab A$$kickers! You Girls Rock! http://www.websmileys.com/sm/crazy/071.gif

[h2co-pilot]

Well, we took it in and they have the stuff locally here to fix it. Most likely the CV joint. They didn't look at it right away- so I am dreading a call that says "Well we got the cv on but...."http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

They said it should be done today. Which is fugtastic!!!http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif They aren't busy and everyone is doing their extracuricular activities today i.e. golf, horsebackriding etc. We should be all set for tomorrow's wheeling.

I was in my jammies most of the morning so I didn't get out to the parking lot to take good pictures of the carnage.

I obviously didn't get pics of Escalator on my camera but I'm sure some will come soon. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HummerNewbie]

Good to hear. We will all keep our fingers crossed that is it.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
I am in the middle of looking this up but a thought out loud.

If the CV is gone and you are in 4 LO, the computer is not registering any wheelspin at the tire when it should be, so now the ABS and <STRIKE>TC</STRIKE> lights on the dash are on. Maybe as a result of the CV being gone. So then, the Electronic Brake Control Module is telling the Transfer Case Control Module to not allow any shifting. I called an talked to a H2 tech and he can't see how the two are tied electronically. Not being a big believer in coinkydinks I just can't reason that the two aren't related.

But there is a Transfer Case lockout feature that is controlled on the Transfer Case Control Module. The TCCM controls everything to do with the t-case and is tied to the Class II. I'm thinking maybe the BCM is telling the TCCM to engage the lock out feature which will not allow voltage to flow to the t-case actuator thus it won't shift out of 4LO.

All that said, once the CV is fixed and it's driven around a little to clear the code, I'm thinking the t-case should then shift out of LO.

[h2co-pilot]

That's what I am hoping.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

It says why they are related in the manual on pg. 3-34. Due to what- I forget. The manual is in the truck- in the shop.

[MarineHawk]

We've got our fingers crossed. Good luck.

[KenP]

No one else is wheeling hard enough to break anything. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by KenP:
No one else is wheeling hard enough to break anything. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Sounds like a challenge http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Hope they get you fixed up here shortly.

[DennisAJC]

Ken..CP,

Damn! A whole day of free time??? Kamasutra!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great news on the repair! Ride hard. Play hard.

[KenP]

Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Ken..CP,

Damn! A whole day of free time??? Kamasutra!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ride hard. Play hard. Fizzled. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[frank6150]

Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Ken..CP,

Damn! A whole day of free time??? Kamasutra!!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Ride hard. Play hard. Fizzled. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Since it seems you'll be there for an extra month again could you please bring me some soap on your way home? Thanks.

[PARAGON]

Ken,

Just let CP take Big Nasty and walk over behind the liquor store. Below is what's in the parking lot. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.quadratec.com/community/jeep_news/article_images/06_04_11_2007_Wrangler/Tuesday_Moab0013.jpg

[NJ H2]

Again it looks incredable out there! 1 day we will make that run!
Ken and CP bummer about the problems! Hope you guys can work it out in time to finish the trip!
Make sure BN is ready for PAP in May!
Lidia and I can't wait to check out "The Nasty!" http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CO Hummer]

Well It's about time someone posted a picture of this event....... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://www.atkinsweb.com/shared/moab2006/12_Hells_Nasty_Esc3.JPG


http://www.atkinsweb.com/shared/moab2006/12_Hells_Nasty_Esc4.JPG

[Ipedog]

These pics rock! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

CP you must have been dealing with serious pucker factor! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[MarineHawk]

Uh, CP, did anyone ever tell you that the H2 is not an airplane and is not meant to fly?

[Albie]

CP got major street credit !!!!!!!!!!!

[DDWH]

Great action pics of CP!!! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif Good thing Ken had the undercarriege washed for her photo ops http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

Ummm..... did we ever hear the verdict on Big Nasty?

[HummerNewbie]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
Ummm..... did we ever hear the verdict on Big Nasty?

Been wondering the same thing. Is BN back on the trails today?

[HummerNewbie]

Man, that REALLY sucks.

[Hummie2]

My guess is some sensor or electrical module is dead.

Dumb Question: did anyone check TREC 30A fuse in underhood fuse block or 4WD 15A fuse in IP fuse block? Use Onstar diagnostics check for DTC set in computer memory?

[h2co-pilot]

Hummie- I checked out those fuses- plus a few more. They all look fine. Replaced 15a just in case.

My guess...It has to be something related to the abs sensor. I am pretty sure we have them and they are directly linked to the actuator for saftey. Hopefully, the dealer will be able to reset it. Didn't think about Onstar though.


Originally posted by Ipedog:

CP you must have been dealing with serious pucker factor! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I was sitting on my suitcase.... and I have been missing some items.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

We used a programer to pull codes, but there weren't any.

Neither actuator worked, so it must be controlled by the computer somehow and is in a "safety mode". I really don't know how that works.

[DRTYFN]

Might as well take BN on Golden Spike tomorrow.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

That's easy to say when you don't have a 2007mi drive starting Sunday. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

Are the lights still on in the IP? If so, it might take a few key cycles and driving a few miles for it to "realize" things are fixed itself.

Or it might have to take a Tech2 tool to fix it.

[Hummie2]

Speaking of "key cycles" I wonder if a bad Ign. Switch can FU the T-case shifting too? Seems like it can be the cause of everything else acting up in the truck. I carry a spare switch in the glove box just in case one goes bad. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Hummie2:
Speaking of "key cycles" I wonder if a bad Ign. Switch can FU the T-case shifting too? Seems like it can be the cause of everything else acting up in the truck. I carry a spare switch in the glove box just in case one goes bad. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif That's too damn funny?

I'm thinking we need to find a decent frame-bent salvage H2 and all pitch in and buy it. When we have big trail rides we can just stick it on a trailer and scavenge parts off of it as needed (it's a ready made storage system with bolts and stuff already cataloged http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and if someone needs something some other time, just pull the part and send it to them.

We would have to come up with some system of buying the new parts to replace the old ones being taken off so that it stays fair to everyone.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
Someone out there must have a programmer, pull the codes and see what they say. Make a note of them, then clear them all and see if it helps. I thought I read somewhere he said that they read the codes with a programmer and that there weren't any. Not sure though

[h2co-pilot]

Yeah we did, but it was VIN locked- doesn't mean it can't detect codes though, I think it should have worked- it did not show any, but the abs and <STRIKE>TC</STRIKE> light are still on the dash.

Who knows- it is driving fine in 4hi and we will prolly get down to the bottom of everything back home. Then I am going to give Big Nasty a spanking for giving us so much trouble on our trip. He has been a very bad boy.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif