American Airlines Flight 77 which crashed into the Pentagon. Or was it?

[JMV1210]

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

A flash movie, makes you think....

[JMV1210]

http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/flash.htm#Main

A flash movie, makes you think....

[drmiles]

So what are they trying to say? A missile hit the pentagon? Where and whom did it come from?

Also whats the difference, except that our gov't may not always tell us the truth!! Area 51, They are out there!!

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>A flash movie, makes you think.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ya, it makes me think there are alot of stupid people. You missed a 7+ page discussion on that subject on another board, and yes it was a plane http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif. Think about it.

[KenP]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif Are you a lover of the French? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Claim: The damage to the Pentagon on September 11 was caused by something other than a hijacked Boeing 757's being crashed into its side.
Status: False.

Origins: The notion that the Pentagon was not damaged by terrorists who hijacked American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and crashed it into the military office complex, but that the whole affair was staged by the U.S. government, has been promulgated by French author Thierry Meyssan in his book, The Frightening Fraud. Meyssan offers no real explanation for what did cause the extensive damage to the Pentagon, asserting only that Flight 77 did not exist, no plane crashed into the Pentagon, and that "the American government is lying."

Unfortunately, the appeal of conspiracy theories has resulted in widespread dissemination of Meyssan's "theory" in France and the USA, particularly in web sites that mirror his work. As Le Nouvel Observateur noted: "This theory suits everyone - there are no Islamic extremists and everyone is happy. It eliminates reality."

[DennisAJC]

That's an OLD theory. Almost the entire world and half the American population believes there was something OTHER than a Boeing that hit the Pentagon.

It's all politics.

It's true. The Pentagon is the ONLY structure in history to swallow a giant plane whole, leaving ZERO evidence.

[JMV1210]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
That's an OLD theory. Almost the entire world and half the American population believes there was something OTHER than a Boeing that hit the Pentagon.

It's all politics.

It's true. The Pentagon is the ONLY structure in history to swallow a giant plane whole, leaving ZERO evidence. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thats right jerky!!!!!!! No evidence...

[CHarris]

Some stories and theories will never die. They should.

[HummMe]

Are you teeling me they found nothing from the plane at the Pentagon? Not even a seat belt clip or mechanical parts? How would that be possible? There would have to be some wreckage at that scene. I never heard this theory before. I guess I am just naive and believe what the govt tells me. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[Dug]

JMV1210 - Why dont you write to someone and comfort them of their family member they lost fighting for this country and dont worry too much about not finding a plane part. My friend Commander Robert Allan Schlegal 38 yrs. old from Gray, Maine perished at the pentagon that day and they never found any of him either. I grew up with him playing tag , wiffle ball , and getting on the school bus in the morning with him . He was a great man, I bet his mother Pat who I adore , doesnt give a sweet **** about plane parts. Dont waste your precious time posting bull****. Doug

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dug3x3:
JMV1210 - Why dont you write to someone and comfort them of their family member they lost fighting for this country and dont worry too much about not finding a plane part. My friend Commander Robert Allan Schlegal 38 yrs. old from Gray, Maine perished at the pentagon that day and they never found any of him either. I grew up with him playing tag , wiffle ball , and getting on the school bus in the morning with him . He was a great man, I bet his mother Pat who I adore , doesnt give a sweet **** about plane parts. Dont waste your precious time posting bull****. Doug <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Amen.


And it's only 47% of the U.S. that believes that crap and they all voted for John Kerry. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dug3x3:
My friend Commander Robert Allan Schlegal 38 yrs. old from Gray, Maine perished at the pentagon that day and they never found any of him either. I grew up with him playing tag , wiffle ball , and getting on the school bus in the morning with him . He was a great man. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They All were Doug. But wouldn't it be a slap in the face if this were possible? As powerful as your country is, they go at lengths to hide facts from the very people who got them there.

It's like telling the mom that her son was run over by a car but all was discovered was a bullet hole in the chest.

When you grieve or experience tragedy, the quickest and shortest route to quench your revenge is usually finding the simplest of explanations..

[Dug]

Heres a site with pics of plane parts all over the pentagon site
http://images.abovetopsecret.com/banner.gif

[PARAGON]

It's stuff like this that feeds on ignorance. And I mean that word in its literal sense. As with most conspiracy-laden ideas, this one offers several other possible explanations and "evidence" to support those. It does not concentrate on one solidary conspiracy, rather, it does what Democrats usually do. Distort the truth in an attempt to scare.

I mean, in all seriousness, it compares this to a jet hitting an apartment building or the "WTC". It's the Pentagon. As a US citizen, I don't need to know the details. That's why I elect people like George Bush, so that they provide the necessary protection to my liberty so that knowing is NOT necessary. Providing unneeded details that could otherwise inform others as to how to carry out future acts is pretty stupid.

[KenP]

Thank you.

[DennisAJC]

Thus the words, "Sheep" Or "Lemmings" were born.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Well to anyone who cares My cousin a Full Bird Colonel, and very soon to be General, in the US Air Force Jag (Lawyer) and at the Pentagon when it happened was at station just around the bend that took the impact diffently attest to the fact a big huge plane struct the building. I do not curse but I'm so close I can barely contain My disdain for all the pin head neo-nazis that could even barely conceive of such an assanine thought. My cousin came so close to being killed i would like to get my hands on this so called writer or theorist and let's see if there is any truth to the statement that a person could have to go to the hospital to have ones foot removed from anothers ass. This is theory of course and would be happy to try and apply said theory. If mentioned writer or pundint who spued this crap would like to work with Me on this project and I of course would appreciate any of You other scientific guys like myself to help with test. Of course We know this chance will not come but, a person can wish and vent.
My cousin who is even though advanced in rank is a no bull lay it on the line every day kind of person and if your not with the program
NO BS get out of the way so someone who will get it done can have the room to do it. I know many things this person has done prior to Desert Storm and volunteered and went into imediate special training to go to Irag as soon as possible before air strikes were to begin. What would a lawyer have to do in a war. Well they carry a gun and shoot someone if need be, they do target asset for the air power so that we do not kill innocent and create to much collateral damage. Unfortunately things are so politisised that a lawyer has to be on hand to asses what weapon is being deployed from what angle and direction. Then look at what is surrounding the target to see what could possibly be harmed that would look bad on our part. No weapon is dropped near a city that has not been aproved by a specially trained Jag that knows the ordances that are at hand to choose from and have the power to stop the drop or order a change in ordance (believe Me I have learned they can stop a planned mission or alter it with in guide lines and no one can change it or over ride them, shocked Me when I learned about this) to still accomplish the task but just possibly in less volatile way as to limit coloteral damage and injury to non-combatants. In My book this is a lawyer using the degree for a good cause and this person could make alot more money in the public but after discovering all the other ways to serve the USA with the degree decided to be a lifer and forgo the big corparate money to do something worth while and yet do it knowing it is still dangerous. It is wierd there are so many functions in military that we or I never realised is valuble and dangerous but few ever know this job or many others exists.
I have said this to say I have looked into this person's eye's enough of My life and been close for so long that I can tell by the look in the face if it is true or If I'm being BS'd by My own family member. This individual has never BS'd Me and I asked about this rumor face to face and I know that I know that I know this person said that is a load of crap so big there is not enough dump trucks on earth to haul it off. I saw the plane. I helped people there.
Well thanks for this forum being here so I could vent about this.

TAZ

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

THANK YOU and AAAAMEN!!!!!

TAZ

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PARAGON:
It's stuff like this that feeds on ignorance. And I mean that word in its literal sense. As with most conspiracy-laden ideas, this one offers several other possible explanations and "evidence" to support those. It does not concentrate on one solidary conspiracy, rather, it does what Democrats usually do. Distort the truth in an attempt to scare.

I mean, in all seriousness, it compares this to a jet hitting an apartment building or the "WTC". It's the Pentagon. As a US citizen, I don't need to know the details. That's why I elect people like George Bush, so that they provide the necessary protection to my liberty so that knowing is NOT necessary. Providing unneeded details that could otherwise inform others as to how to carry out future acts is pretty stupid. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[DennisAJC]

Let's not turn this into a YOU vs. US. A theory was put forth. Considering the facts surrounding the Pentagon, this theory is quite entertaining.

Reminder, NO CAN OF WORMS!

I don't want another incident of, "WMD! They got WMD! That's why we gots to go into Iraq!"

We all know that was proved false by both parties. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif But boy the sheep that followed during!

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Dennis I can sort of understand where Your coming from but when it comes so close to your family try to understand to some there is no entertainment to even considering this theory. It drudges up anger and resentment for those who put forth this crap and our military is called upon for what ever reason to do a job whether the rest of the world agree's with it or not I could care less, it is what is asked of them and they respond with there life at risk. Forget about WMD it does not matter after I saw and found out what that sorry excuse of a leader of Iraq did to his people daily have given the chance even at my age leave some young men at home that still have alot of years to there future and give those of us who are older some training and to fight that mob it would not take much and let us go over and use us up before the young. Just to free those poor people from the torture etc. He did to them just the desire I feel for humane treatment for My animals was not even given to 80% of Irag's population. It is alone enough to continue to make Me angry. Not to the point that it consumes My thoughts but I have thoughts about it and I would fight for the regular Irag's right to just feel safe and not that in the middle of the night some secret sqad is coming in to hall the man of the house off and never to be seen again. WMD's if it was made up good We still got to go over and get rid of this lower than life leader and hopefully Iraq will be better for it but most likely not fast enough to suite pinko, commie, liberals that would surrender Our country USA to anyone without even firing a shoot. So I feel no need to justify righting a wroung ever. I wish Our Gov. would get more back bone and tell some countries You do not like what is happening fine go stick Your head in the mud and unlike the last 2 times You need the USA to come and pull Your butts out of the fire we will stand back and watch You burn and then go kick somebodies ass take what was Your country from them and anex it to Ours We earned it. So if They do not like what We do do not ask for Our help when They can not fight Thier way out of a wet paper sack.
So I try to look at Your view in fairness but I must also say I see no entertainment in the crap this guy wrote or the flash video. True it is because of the angle I look at it from so yes it is byassed and will remain that way.
But in the immortal words of Rodney King http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
"Can't We Just All Get Along" hopeful it is possible for everyone sooner rather than later. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Respectfully to all but then again My opion is just that My opion.

TAZ

[Kevin B]

Holy Crap Dennis and who ever else. Do you think they made up all the names (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2001/09/12/victim-capsule-flight77.htm) of the people who died on that plane? Do you think they just faked the plane that is missing? Where did flight 77 go?

I guess you by into the theory of the "gay co-pilot", to many people with military backgrounds on the plane (go figure in Washing D.C.) and it HAD to hit wings level at about 35 feet A.G.L. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.
Hey I have a alien autopsy film Ill sell ya.

[DennisAJC]

Taz,

I think you know me well enough that when I stab at a theory(JUST A THEORY), it is not a stab at the WHOLE. Some people here don't get it. You have to at some point, when nothing positive is forthcomming, reasses your enviroment. If you come to the same conclusion, you choose. Free will buddy.

But for a whole to BLINDLY follow WITHOUT question. Well, I must repeat, "Lemmings and Sheep".

Oh boy, here I go...

WMD was the fear dose at the time. So in they went. NOW, none were found and proven never exsisted, but still they stay even after 1400 dead because denial is too strong.

NO Proof was found in the connection between Iraq and 911. Yet 1400 braves have died so far.

Powell and many others resign.

NOW a BIG problem with Iran. Is it too late? Who dropped the ball? Well, we have to blame the Captain of the team.

Your country is divided into 2 equal parts. BOTH claiming right over the other. Being Canadian, I'm privileged to be friends with both sides.

CIA has confirmed the future standing of USA as a superpower will be in jepardy.

QUESTIONS, THEORIES, OPPOSITION, must be put foward. If not.....Lemmings.

As for the THEORY, don't take it personally friend. It's all Grassy Knoll stuff. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Paragon,

-Water Gate
-White Water
-Iran Contra
-WMD
To name a fraction. And yes Lemmings do the Dew every 7 years.

[Kevin B]

Dennis, how many people must the weapon kill before it is considered a W.M.D?

I think Saddam Hussein killed enough people to qualify as a W.M.D.

[DennisAJC]

N2,

Before you wave the passenger list of flight 77, try and stay with the topic dumb****.

It's so easy to wave that flag and get over emotional hoping people will see you parade your tears. It's Oscar worthy.

We were talking about THEORIES and accountability.

But to answer your question, you really think YOUR goverment is CLEAN of killing it's own people for the sake of political gain? Man you are dense. And to think I defended you so many times.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Dennis, how many people must the weapon kill before it is considered a W.M.D?

I think Saddam Hussein killed enough people to qualify as a W.M.D. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If we analyzed this question "Literally", then if I were you, I wouldn't be pointing fingers at others.

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Before you wave the passenger list of flight 77, try and stay with the topic dumb**** <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I thought that was on topic because it is something that must be delt with in the theory.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> And to think I defended you so many times.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for your support http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif. More like stab me in the back on your "other" board. Spare me.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>If we analyzed this question "Literally", then if I were you, I wouldn't be pointing fingers at others. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by N2ITNSD:

Thanks for your support http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif. More like stab me in the back on your "other" board. Spare me. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL! Better come up with some proof! I don't play dat. BTW. I don't think I'm so popular in that "other" bored.

We gotta stop for now. I'm off to kick DRTY's ass on XBOX. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

P.S. You do know I'm like this when I'm board. Just keeping you guys on your toes. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

WMD

Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq
Monday, May 17, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq — A roadside bomb containing sarin nerve agent (search) recently exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday.

Bush administration officials told Fox News that mustard gas (search) was also recently discovered.

Two people were treated for "minor exposure" after the sarin incident but no serious injuries were reported. Soldiers transporting the shell for inspection suffered symptoms consistent with low-level chemical exposure, which is what led to the discovery, a U.S. official told Fox News...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,120137,00.html

More to come

[DRTYFN]

Bush & Clinton friends? LOL!!! That's a good one. Next you're going to tell us Hillary isn't a lesbian. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

One on one in Halo2. The little Canadian is going down.

[KenP]

http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2003/david_kay_10022003.html

We have discovered dozens of WMD-related program activities and significant amounts of equipment that Iraq concealed from the United Nations during the inspections that began in late 2002...

A clandestine network of laboratories and safehouses within the Iraqi Intelligence Service that contained equipment subject to UN monitoring and suitable for continuing CBW research.

A prison laboratory complex, possibly used in human testing of BW agents, that Iraqi officials working to prepare for UN inspections were explicitly ordered not to declare to the UN.

Reference strains of biological organisms concealed in a scientist's home, one of which can be used to produce biological weapons.

New research on BW-applicable agents, Brucella and Congo Crimean Hemorrhagic Fever (CCHF), and continuing work on ricin and aflatoxin were not declared to the UN.

Documents and equipment, hidden in scientists' homes, that would have been useful in resuming uranium enrichment by centrifuge and electromagnetic isotope separation (EMIS).

A line of UAVs not fully declared at an undeclared production facility and an admission that they had tested one of their declared UAVs out to a range of 500 km, 350 km beyond the permissible limit.

Continuing covert capability to manufacture fuel propellant useful only for prohibited SCUD variant missiles, a capability that was maintained at least until the end of 2001 and that cooperating Iraqi scientists have said they were told to conceal from the UN.

Plans and advanced design work for new long-range missiles with ranges up to at least 1000 km - well beyond the 150 km range limit imposed by the UN. Missiles of a 1000 km range would have allowed Iraq to threaten targets through out the Middle East, including Ankara, Cairo, and Abu Dhabi.

Clandestine attempts between late-1999 and 2002 to obtain from North Korea technology related to 1,300 km range ballistic missiles --probably the No Dong -- 300 km range anti-ship cruise missiles, and other prohibited military equipment.

[KenP]

The US Code, Title 50, Chapter 40 Sec. 2302 defines a Weapon of Mass Destruction as follows: “The term ‘weapon of mass destruction” means any weapon or device that is intended, or has the capability, to cause death or serious bodily injury to a significant number of people through the release, dissemination, or impact of (A) toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors, (B) a disease organism, or (C) radiation or radioactivity.”

[KenP]

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34881

Kuwait foils Iraqi-WMD smuggling attempt
Report: Biological warheads, chemical arms en route to Europe snagged

Posted: October 1, 2003
5:54 p.m. Eastern

© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

Following months of frustrated searches by hundreds of U.S. and British investigators for Saddam's weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, some have turned up in Kuwait, according to Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah.

The pro-government daily reports Kuwaiti security forces foiled an attempted smuggling of $60 million worth of chemical weapons and biological warheads from Iraq to an unnamed European country...

[LasVegas]

Order, order. Goddamnit I said "order".

Now I don't have to tell you good folks what's been happening in our beloved little forum. The time has come to act, and act fast. I'm leaving.

[DennisAJC]

KABOOM! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Rep. Nancy Johnson

January 12, 2005

Honorable Congresswoman Nancy Johnson,

If people in red states just look at the fact for one second and think:
- Bush sent us to war to find Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)
- Just today (1/12/2005), the search for WMD ends.

I supported the war when it first started because of WMD. Now that it is conclusive that there are no WMDs in Iraq, and because of the fact that the US has no business touting freedom when we are losing freedoms here and denying every gay American on the planet the same freedoms as straight people do; therefore, t is not our business to remain in Iraq to spread freedom there, when the most ruthless, mindless killers on earth roam the streets. We are not going to change anything. They will always be that way.

There are no WMDs in Iraq. Since the search ceased today and saddam is in jail, the Iraq objective that Bush laid out before the invasion is complete. Time to seriously consider withdrawing troops and bringing our reserves back home to be along our borders and ports trying to stop terrorists from coming in here and inspecting much more than 5% of our cargo. That is what needs to be protected. I am proud of our troops and they have done their best. This war has been quite a sad thing, but since the search for WMDs has ceased today (1/12/2005), why not consider at least starting to bring them home after the January Iraq elections to show the world we don't have long-term designs on their country. Why should we lose any more of our proud, fine young men after that? We shouldn't have to, and with all due respect it really is time to start talking about bringing troops home after the January 30th elections. The no WMD thing alone makes the job pretty much done, so be a good sport, force Bush to take responsibility like an adult, and say that it is time to move on because we have a nation to protect.

I am concerned that the Bush policies of unilateralism and pre-emptive attacks is destabilizing the globe and further threatening American safety, because it inflames the already-existing hatred of the Muslim world toward the US to an exponential level (meaning multiply the pre-invasion hatred by itself many many times, and you get the level of hatred that you have today). The anti-American sentiment is exponentially worse (and yes you can argue they hated us no matter what, but they hate us exponentially more now- as described).

I believe people the more and more we speak the truth, more and more red state voters will think outside their moral values box more and more and realize the big picture here- Bush is ruining this job market and economy, and ruining our reputation around the world because of his actions. Put 2 and 2 together and understand the following:
- Neither Bush nor his father helped the economy or the job market (e.g. outsourcing and immigrants taking American jobs).
- Neither Bush nor his father helped the American middle class.
- Neither Bush nor his father helped the environment.

Please- American people in blue states and red states alike, please make the connection above, break party lines, and vote for the Democrat on November 4th, 2008. If a Democrat wasn't caring for the middle class (like the Republicans are today) I would cross party lines and vote Republican, so I ask that you do the same but cross party lines and vote Democrat.

To the reader- thank you for considering voting Democrat and giving what I said some thought.

Everyone- I am not super liberal. I am moderate Democrat. I believe in traditional marriage but I also believe every gay and lesbian American on the planet should have every last freedom and right straight people do even if it means not marrying them since the country is not ready for it. I am in agreement with most of America, but I dispise anyone who actively seeks out ways to deny gays and lesbians every single freedom and right other Americans have. America is the land of the free. Lets give gay couples more rights, and lets keep our civil liberties from being denied because that will show the terrorists they cannot act in any way to take our freedoms away. Lets Revise both Patriot act and Domestic Security Enhancement Act of 2003 to be easier on civil liberties.

[LasVegas]

And Dennis answers:

"I wash born here, an I wash raished here, and dad gum it, I am gonna die here, an no sidewindin bushwackin, hornswaglin, cracker croaker is gonna rouin me bishen cutter."

[KenP]

Nice article on the failing UN. And for those of you that can't read, it mentions the 12 plus years of Resolutions against Iraq and how the Resolutions did NOTHING.

For that matter, the UN did NOTHING. All that group of fools can do is write Resolution after Resolution. They are unable to enforce them without the United States of America. Don't forget that... The UN and France and Germany can say what they want, but when it comes to action, only us cowboys can take care of things.

http://www.oldad.com/is_the_un_dead.html

Excerpt:
After reading several of the resolutions, you might possibly come to the conclusion that I did. Hey, why are they passing all of these resolutions anyway? After about 12 years of resolutions, most reaffirming previous resolutions, you would expect a rational person to conclude that these resolutions are no more than words on paper. Very similar to any treaty that is signed between countries. Nothing but tricky words on paper.

Hopefully, you will recognize that resolutions, like treaties, are between countries that have agreed to certain things written upon the paper comprising the resolution or treaty. The resolution or treaty is just the guide or roadmap of expected, agreed to, behavior. Herein lies the current problem.

Just like the failed League of Nations of the 1920's and 1930's, the current United Nations will become, and quite possibly already has achieved to be, nothing more than a large group of men and women writing many worthless pieces of paper. The lack of enforcement of today's UN Resolutions, makes the diplomatic negotiations and tomorrow's UN Resolutions even more meaningless. Thus what we have here is a meaningless, worthless, expensive United Nations that has failed miserably to live up to its expectations for humanity.

[KenP]

Dude, did you not read the definition of WMD's?

Here it is again:
The US Code, Title 50, Chapter 40 Sec. 2302 defines a Weapon of Mass Destruction as follows: “The term ‘weapon of mass destruction” means any weapon or device that is intended, or has the capability, to cause death or serious bodily injury to a significant number of people through the release, dissemination, or impact of (A) toxic or poisonous chemicals or their precursors, (B) a disease organism, or (C) radiation or radioactivity.”

I guess Sarin only counts if you can kill MILLIONS, not just thousands.

BTW, don't forget the Kerry campaign. He said wanted to stop outsourcing while his bitch wife continued to DO IT. PUHLEEZE, give us a break.

[DennisAJC]

OUCH! Out of the mouths of your beloved!

TIMES Article:

>>> During the run-up to the 2003 attack on Iraq, we were repeatedly told by US leaders that Iraq absolutely, positively had weapons of mass destruction [read more]. The country was an immediate threat not only to its neighbors but to the entire world. It had the capability of launching WMDs within 45 minutes.

In August 2002, Cheney insisted: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

In a March 2003 address to the nation, Bush said: "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."

In April 2003, Fleischer claimed: "But make no mistake--as I said earlier--we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about."

In February 2003, Powell said: "We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more."

But two years earlier, Powell said just the opposite. The occasion was a press conference on 24 February 2001 during Powell's visit to Cairo, Egypt. Answering a question about the US-led sanctions against Iraq, the Secretary of State said:

We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions -- the fact that the sanctions exist -- not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein's ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors.

[DennisAJC]

Comments by Wolfe Blitzer CNN:

But Powell wasn't the only senior administration official telling the truth before the truth became highly inconvenient. Guest host John King asked Rice about the fact that Iraq had recently fired on US planes enforcing the "no-fly zones" in Iraq. Rice craftily responds:

Well, the president has made very clear that he considers Saddam Hussein to be a threat to his neighbors, a threat to security in the region, in fact a threat to international security more broadly.

Notice that she makes it clear that Bush is the one who considers Hussein a threat. She doesn't say, "I consider..." or even, "We consider..."

Then King asks her about the sanctions against Iraq. She replies:

But in terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let's remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt.

King doesn't think to ask Rice, if Hussein hasn't been getting arms and his forces weren't rebuilt after the 1991 Gulf War, why Bush considers him a threat.

[KenP]

I hope when an invasion occurs on some poor-ass anti-American European country we as a nation remember the **** these ****ers have been spewing. I hope we make-'em-sweat before helping. We always help those ungrateful ****ers in one way or another.

The United States of America is the ONLY country in the world that can enforce UN resolutions. No other Country has the WILL or the POWER. That is why we will be under fire from the "have-nots".

[LasVegas]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
KABOOM! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


Rep. Nancy Johnson

January 12, 2005

Honorable Congresswoman Nancy Johnson,

If people in red states just look at the fact for one second and think:
- Bush sent us to war to find Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD)
- Just today (1/12/2005), the search for WMD ends.

I supported the war when it first started because of WMD. Now that it is conclusive that there are no WMDs in Iraq, and because blah, blah, blah <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

30, September, 1938

Chamberlain read the above statement in front of 10 Downing St. and said:

"My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time...
Go home and get a nice quiet sleep."

[KenP]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A1495-2005Feb5.html

Foreign Aid Boost Is Expected in Bush Budget
Funds for President's Initiative, the Millennium Challenge, Would Double to $3 Billion

By Paul Blustein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, February 6, 2005; Page A06

President Bush will propose a substantial increase in foreign aid in the fiscal 2006 budget that he will submit to Congress tomorrow, although the boost for one of his signature aid programs will fall well short of the amount he promised.

Budget figures show that Bush will propose $9.5 billion for bilateral humanitarian and development assistance, about $2.1 billion more than the current level. That would make aid one of the few areas of nondefense spending to get an increase under a budget that administration officials have described as the most restrained in years.

The main reason for the increase is a proposal to double, to $3 billion, the spending by the Millennium Challenge Corp., a new agency set up under a presidential initiative to direct aid to poor countries with sound policies...

You know as well as I do that this is really just a start. The US citizens always give more.

[KenP]

Do you think these folks will care?

US Tsunami Aid:
Total USG Humanitarian and Recovery Assistance Pledged: $350,000,000
Total USAID/OFDA Humanitarian Assistance Committed: $78,821,235
Total USG Humanitarian Assistance Committed1: $118,919,041

DOD: As of February 4, 3,825 U.S. military personnel are involved in delivering more than 23.4 million pounds of relief supplies and equipment to the affected region. With 2 ships and 33 aircraft, the U.S. military has delivered a total of 9,193,366 pounds of relief supplies to the governments of Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Thailand, and other affected nations, including 3,263 gallons of water; 500 pounds of food; and 10,250 pounds of relief supplies in the last 24 hours.

Sri Lanka: To date, the USG has provided more than $62.0 million in emergency food assistance, relief supplies, shelter, water and sanitation, health, livelihoods recovery, psychological and social support, protection and anti-trafficking, logistics and coordination, and cleanup and rehabilitation activities for affected communities in Sri Lanka.

That's just Two countries.

[KenP]

Some countries actually criticize the US for that amount because it doesn't stack up on a GDP basis, but those idiots forget about private donations such as these that is expected to top $700 million!:
http://usinfo.state.gov/gi/Archive/2005/Jan/13-360711.html

U.S. Private-Sector Donations for Tsunami Relief Top $360 Million
Total nongovernmental U.S. contributions expected to reach $700 million

Washington – U.S. private-sector contributions to tsunami relief already have topped $360 million and are expected to reach nearly $700 million when planned fund raising is complete, according to figures released January 11 by the Center on Philanthropy at Indiana University.

American corporations and nongovernmental organizations are contributing cash, supplies and services to assist in immediate relief efforts as well as in long-term recovery and rehabilitation projects, according to the center.

Corporate donors include companies such as ChevronTexaco Corp., which has sent $490,000 to the Thai Red Cross and local relief agencies; General Mills Inc., which has spent $750,000 on food, water and shelter for victims; and Levi Strauss & Co., which has contributed $160,000 to local relief agencies.

Foundations established by large corporations also are giving generously, among them the Abbot Laboratories Fund, pledging $4 million in health care products and cash; the GE [General Electric] Foundation, contributing $10 million; and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, created by the Microsoft chief executive and his wife, pledging $3 million...

Here is a link breaking down the donations by the countries government. Add another $700 mil to the US total and put it in the "We Care" column. (Oh, there is none. I guess that's because the US is the only country able ,too.) Then figure the percentages.

http://blogger.xs4all.nl/marcone/archive/2005/01/03/19687.aspx

And for you conspiracy theorists, step back and take a cold shower. This Tsunami really happened. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

[DennisAJC]

I was FULLY expecting the subject to change. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif


There you have it. Four to seven months before 9/11--and just 15 to 18 months before the drive to attack Iraq seriously revved up--the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor trumpeted that Iraq had a decimated military, no "significant capabilities" regarding WMD, and was so feeble that it couldn't even threaten the countries around it with conventional military power.


Hey! Don't get angry with me! The guys you so feverishly defend stated these facts. Your own goverment. I repeat, your guys. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

[DennisAJC]

Actually Ken,

Per capita, Canada donated more than the US. Sorry.

Initially US offered $75 million but upped the stakes when the Aussies and Japs submitted a pledge of $500million to $1Billion.

It became a competition. Numbers produced now, not really that significant.

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> Originally posted by DAJC:
Per capita, Canada donated more than the US. Sorry. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Maybe not if you include the $700,000,000 plus in private donations as of January 5, 2005. That puts us at over $1billion. http://blogger.xs4all.nl/marcone/archive/2005/01/03/19687.aspx

Not to mention the fact that there was no organization to get things going and the US had to step up and handle everything until the UN finally got their act together.
What we really need to look at is China and Muslim nations. What a sham.

Look at what some of the poorer nations provided. A few really stepped up to help. Of course we should remember this is not a bidding war. If it was all would lose.

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KenP:
What we really need to look at is China and Muslim nations. What a sham. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Totally agree. Asians turning their back on their own. Crock of ****.

The Muslims factor was a BIG surprise. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Hey! How about them Isrealis!

[RoverRoller]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
_Let's not turn this into a YOU vs. US._ A theory was put forth. Considering the facts surrounding the Pentagon, this theory is quite entertaining.

Reminder, NO CAN OF WORMS!

I don't want another incident of, _"WMD! They got WMD! That's why we gots to go into Iraq!"_

We all know that was proved _false_ by both parties. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif But boy the sheep that followed during! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


-I told you guys he was a liberal Canadian fag/psycho.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Dennis I understand what Your saying. But, You can see I'm probably to close to the situation with My cousin to be involved in this overal thread. This response to You will be My last on this issue.
Your My Buddy even if You are a Canadian. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

TAZ http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
Taz,

I think you know me well enough that when I stab at a theory(JUST A THEORY), it is not a stab at the WHOLE. Some people here don't get it. You have to at some point, when nothing positive is forthcomming, reasses your enviroment. If you come to the same conclusion, you choose. Free will buddy.

But for a whole to BLINDLY follow WITHOUT question. Well, I must repeat, "Lemmings and Sheep".

Oh boy, here I go...

WMD was the fear dose at the time. So in they went. NOW, none were found and proven never exsisted, but still they stay even after 1400 dead because denial is too strong.

NO Proof was found in the connection between Iraq and 911. Yet 1400 braves have died so far.

Powell and many others resign.

NOW a BIG problem with Iran. Is it too late? Who dropped the ball? Well, we have to blame the Captain of the team.

Your country is divided into 2 equal parts. BOTH claiming right over the other. Being Canadian, I'm privileged to be friends with both sides.

CIA has confirmed the future standing of USA as a superpower will be in jepardy.

QUESTIONS, THEORIES, OPPOSITION, must be put foward. If not.....Lemmings.

As for the THEORY, don't take it personally friend. It's all Grassy Knoll stuff. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Paragon,

-Water Gate
-White Water
-Iran Contra
-WMD
To name a fraction. And yes Lemmings do the Dew every 7 years. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[PARAGON]

If you are going to argue the money for tsunami victims, use real information. Donations per capita doesn't really mean anything. A nation having a bunch of people doesn't equate to that country having the wealth to donate $xxxM.

Secondly, there is a big difference between the what is being offered. The US is giving $350M in cash, the US Armed Forces are there and being utilized(no one is counting that cost), plus the dollar donations from the private sector. Now, other countries are making their offers in the form of grants and LOANS. This is not the same thing.

[PARAGON]

From a Canadian newspaper:

<Table><SPAN class=headline>Canada should be proud of our tsunami aid</SPAN> <SPAN
class=subhead></SPAN>

<SPAN class=byline>Rob
Fursiewicz</SPAN>

<SPAN class=regular>“We’ve done much to be
proud of in tsunami relief,” wrote Lorne Gunter in last Monday’s National Post,
“but we could have done so much more.”

Canada has given enormous amounts
of money and deployed DART. What more could we have done, given our financial
resources?

Our government was even matching citizen contributions (until
11 January), which is odd given that those were our tax dollars in the first
place. It’s akin to a buy-one-get-one-free sale where the “free” item has been
taken from your home and given back to you; if we wanted to give twice as much,
we’d do it ourselves.

Either way, most are proud of Canada’s world-class
contribution. Yet there are always those Canadians who will step in to defend
the US whenever Canada just might have a rare advantage over our great southern
neighbours.

Someone on Gunter’s cable box had the nerve to state that
Canada’s relief contributions were larger than the US’s—surely that couldn’t be
true.

“It’s not true,” he writes. US financial aid, “plus the cost of
the aircraft carrier, relief ships, transport planes [and] squadrons of
helicopters” means “the Americans’ contribution is unsurpassed in the world.”


That’s fantastic, but Gunter forgets that Canada has no military,
one-tenth the population of the United States, and one-eleventh of its GDP.


Given this, and ignoring the military aid for a minute, it seems to me
that the US should be giving ten times Canada’s financial contribution. The US
certainly hasn’t responded weakly. It’s just that Canada has pledged such a
monumental amount of cash that it wouldn’t be right to judge America’s
contribution against our.

Comparing monetary contributions is unfair—and
the comparison pundits like Gunter invoke of military-based aid efforts. If
you’re going to factor in military contributions, the United States will
obviously dominate. America’s military spending ($420.7 billion per year) is
greater than the next 23 nations combined.

What would be the reaction if
the United States, global leaders in terms of war and military intervention,
neglected to use their military implements to help do some good in
tsunami-ravaged areas? This is where Gunter’s points are laughable: the United
States should not be commended for their military-based contributions. It should
be expected, and it’s the least they can do considering their military spending
and global presence.

One thing this tsunami disaster has done is allow
Bush and his government to show that, when push comes to shove, they will do
what is necessary. While right-wingers whine about Paul Martin vacationing or
taking too long to fire up contribution levels, leftists whine that Bush isn’t
giving enough. Both sides should quit whining.

Realistically, comparing
aid is an academic exercise within the big picture. The whole world has
contributed, and will continue to do so, at least for as long as the tsunami
media coverage continues bringing waves of ratings successes.

For now,
the world can be proud of its response. The media has won because, while doing
its duty in covering a historic disaster and helping induce donations, ratings
and readership levels are up as people strive to learn more. Bush and his
government win because not only has a greater disaster taken the world’s eyes
off the great disaster of Iraq, but they’ve had the opportunity to showcase
their long-lost “compassionate conservatism.” And now, a tsunami warning system
is about to come into effect, providing hope for the future.

Even
anti-Liberal pundits have had a chance to advance their cause for more Canadian
military spending, tying it to how much more we could’ve given if we had more
aircraft carriers, ships, planes, helicopters and soldiers.

If the
biggest problem in all the aftermath and political fist-throwing is that “Canada
has become ... a cheque-writer in international affairs, not a sleeve-roller,”
as Gunter writes, then all is well. We have the capability and the compassion to
write such cheques—huge ones at that—and whining about what we didn’t do with
the additional resources we don’t have won’t save any lives. After all, pundits
talk, but so does money, and which would a victim of the tsunami prefer right
now?





</SPAN></Table>

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> From Paragon's post:
the United States should not be commended for their military-based contributions. It should be expected, and it’s the least they can do considering their military spending and global presence. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Expected!? Greedy, ungrateful bastards.

[DennisAJC]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_2_105.gif ('http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZNxdm917YYCA')

[TBDAugs]

Winging canuck Pommie hoser.

LCdr.Augs, USN-retired

[DennisAJC]

Augs,

Why does it always have to resort to name calling? Tempting as that sounds http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, I'm not shoving beliefs down your throats. Just offering the possibility of a different perspective.

Yes we rely on our American neighbours.
Yes they are brave and strong.
Yes they are great humanitarians
Yes they are a super power
YES YES YES

But you can't stomp on anyone who offers a perspective to broaden your way of thinking.

That's why in substance rehab you have INTERVENTIONS.
That's why you can have your Supervisor fired.
That's why you don't line up for toiletpaper in Russia.
That's why some of us think Pewter is the best H2 color. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
THAT'S WHY YOU THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE IN CONTROL OF YOUR ELECTED GOVERNMENT.

Just think if the Admiral listened to his XO and put the fleet out to sea. Could lives been saved at Pearl Harbour? Or had he at least considered the possibility of the vunerability. Could he have taken extra defensive measures?

What is happening in IRAQ is a tragedy. All those men and women. But that's been said before...

NOW think of what has happened. IRAN is the next in succesion. It was and IS a MORE potent threat and now more advanced. This is the scariest of all scenarios. THEY HAVE THE WEAPON way before we were speculating about Iraq.

Too much time has transpired. IRAN was given the luxury to build. Now it's an uphill battle.
World support? Well, you guys never needed it anyways.

Accept the fact that more Braves will die.

Who dropped the ball on this one? Can it be undone? Could you have done it another way? Attack the obvious first?

I suppose if there were no opposition, or disagreements, campfires would be alot more boring. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[JMV1210]

Umm guys, it was just food for thought, I didn’t mean for this type of controversy. The only thing that does not set well with me, is that there were no parts to the plane found, and flights leave wreckage. And a plane that size, a lot of it….. Pictures of the remains of the plane would be nice….. Here say of someone who attests to seeing plane wreckage for me does not suffice my curiosity. If that wasn’t flight 77 then were did it go?

I just found the link to be a different point of view and wanted to share with you guys. I certainly don’t mean to offend anyone here……….

On a different note: Drty and AJC what are your live names? Which games do you play on xbox live?

[DennisAJC]

DRTYFN = DRTYFN

Frank6150 = Frank6150

DennisAJC = DennisAJC

HALO2

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ANYONE who has a gripe against me should log on. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Yes, hunt me down.

BTW, we teabag our kills. So be prepared for some sac. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> posted 02-07-05 09:47 AM
Augs,

Why does it always have to resort to name calling?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> posted 02-06-05 09:14 PM
N2,

Before you wave the passenger list of flight 77, try and stay with the topic dumb****

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ya, why is that Dennis http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[DennisAJC]

Sorry N2, you didn't deserve that. I got all involed. My bad. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Seth, so many cool things you can do without the long distance charges. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Check OUR pm.

[Kevin B]

You know im very delicate Dennis http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

[jfox]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sfox:
I don't own an XBox....but maybe I have a reason to get one now.....http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Maybe the Easter Bunny will bring you one...NOT http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

J.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
DRTYFN = DRTYFN

Frank6150 = Frank6150

DennisAJC = DennisAJC

HALO2

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ANYONE who has a gripe against me should log on. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif Yes, hunt me down.

BTW, we teabag our kills. So be prepared for some sac. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My XBox name is DIRTYFUN.

I teabagged a couple of my kills last night. Dennis did it to me first, and it was funny/humiliating watching it for the first time as my player lay dead on the ground as Dennis was over him squatting repeatedly. I think it will start a Halo2 teabagging phenomenon. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[JMV1210]

I am JMV1210 on Xbox live, I will add you guys tonight- Anyone will be on tonight?

[DennisAJC]

Note to self.....Must kill JMV tonight. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Prepare for some facial sac buddy! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[TBDAugs]

I'm used to this typical naive extrapolation of conspiracy theories and half truths by those trying to support an opposite agenda to the prevailing one. Freedom of speech.

There were plane parts found, and photographed ad nauseum, and the rest melted, same thermodynamics as the towers. Get over it.

But that's not my issue with you Dennis.

You crossed my line when you presumed as a Canadian to understand Americans via the spectables of it's political process without at all appreciating it's diversity. Simple reminder, the last two elections were evenly split down here.

You crossed my line when your refered to Americans as you did as sheep and lemmings, twice, thus lumping all of us who supported the war or fought in it, or had comrades, friends and family die in it as stupidly blind followers.

Simple rule I grew up with in South Texas: you gotta dance with those that brought ya.

Ain't about blind acquiesence my friend. It's about duty, honor and loyalty.

Big ass difference. I don't care if you want to apologize about ad hominems. Try apologizing for your lack of appreciation, or at least attack us for being loyal to those who brought us up, or for thinking duty and honor are more important than political expediency.

I joined this website to talk about Hummers, not be targeted for a humiliate. Someone needs to ****can this thread IMHO.

LCdrAugs, USN-ret.

[DennisAJC]

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_10_4.gif ('http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008_ZNxdm917YYCA')

[DennisAJC]

Give your macho bul**** speach to the families who sent their kids into Iraq with their ILL-ARMORED Humvees, non existent Flak Jackets.

Tell their families it was for DUTY,HONOR,LOYALTY.

There's a big difference between Waving the Flag and Burning your own.

Just because your fvcking sig says so doesn't mean ****. As Kerry could attest.

[LasVegas]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by "Augs" Flak:

I joined this website to talk about Hummers, not be targeted for a humiliate. Someone needs to ****can this thread IMHO.

LCdrAugs, USN-ret. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed

[Dug]

"Augs"flak - LCdrAugs, USN-ret.

Thank you for serving this country !

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dug3x3:
"Augs"flak - LCdrAugs, USN-ret.

Thank you for serving this country ! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm gonna be sick. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

But yet you spit on this man. Talk about confused.

Words....Words....Words....

[DennisAJC]

What kind of brain farted response now?

Kerry fought for your freedoms, yet he disagrees with your views. What does that make him? Try not to let your head explode.

It's simply hilarious knowing what the next response will be.

Like sheep.

[Dug]

Dennis- dont get sick, I dont know **** about politics . You know more than i do about that kind of stuff. I just think the people that defend this country (in my opinion ) deserve a little thanks.

[DennisAJC]

Dug,

I do respect your opinion. I respect everyones. That's just it, EVERYONE has a right to opinions.

What I don't get is close minded people.

I know it's a stretch, but Augs and Kerry(Purple Heart) both did your country proud to some extent and yes of course even I benefited. But BOTH have a different views. Who's right? I don't know. What I hate is when they wave that banner of, "I served so you stink" attitude. That's a load of ****.

Fear this...Sure you and I will send our children to battle(God forbid) in the near future. Wouldn't you want to make sure they're in good hands? The premise of sending them in for DUTY, HONOR, LOYALTY is out the door. **** that! ARMOUR, FLAK JACKETS, BULLETS. Then you can use those eloquent words of braverey.

[Dug]

drtyfn- How bout' some more girls getting waxed videos to lift the spirits around here ? Waxed/toe nailed/butt fked/suckin dong what ever you can find .

[DennisAJC]

That's in the Woodshed! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifGates Of Hell (http://elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=frm&s=2826088551&f=382107444)

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> joined this website to talk about Hummers, not be targeted for a humiliate. Someone needs to ****can this thread IMHO <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

At least it could be moved, or posted in the right section for that matter http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif.

[PARAGON]

Dennis,

You have to be the world's greatest proof of reincarnation-- no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime. Judging by the old saying, "What you don't know can't hurt you," you're practically invulnerable. Seriously, you had to have forgotten to pay your brain bill. You obviously have the IQ of tree bark and have now have reached rock bottom with signs showing that you are starting to dig. The new guys here don't realize that you have more faces than China and that you are normally out of your depth in a puddle of water. If you read your posts, it's easy to see that you were shot through a stupid forest and didn't miss a tree. It's just a shame that stupidity isn't painful. Most everyone realizes that your brain waves fall a little short of hitting the beach, that you make as much sense as windshield wipers on a goat's ass, and that you are living proof that **** can sprout legs and walk. I am also sure most of us will defend to your death the right to our opinions. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DennisAJC]

Just when I'm starting to have fun, you f#ck it up for me Paragon! What the hell is this Forum comming to???

Oh well, some guys know me better than most. I'll shut up now. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[JMV1210]

I added you guys to my friends list on xbox..... where are you?

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> you make as much sense as windshield wipers on a goat's ass, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That right there's funny, but it's giving "The Frozen One" a little to much credit http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JMV1210:
I added you guys to my friends list on xbox..... where are you? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1 hour.

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by N2ITNSD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> you make as much sense as windshield wipers on a goat's ass, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That right there's funny, but it's giving "The Frozen One" a little to much credit http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

How the hell do you get around that? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I remember in the olden days when we were the Troll hunters. But alas, new hybrids like Paragon have rendered some of us "Obsolete".

Can't fool worth **** nowadays. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> This quote from Paragon has to make the Funniest list:
Dennis,

You have to be the world's greatest proof of reincarnation-- no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime. Judging by the old saying, "What you don't know can't hurt you," you're practically invulnerable. Seriously, you had to have forgotten to pay your brain bill. You obviously have the IQ of tree bark and have now have reached rock bottom with signs showing that you are starting to dig. The new guys here don't realize that you have more faces than China and that you are normally out of your depth in a puddle of water. If you read your posts, it's easy to see that you were shot through a stupid forest and didn't miss a tree. It's just a shame that stupidity isn't painful. Most everyone realizes that your brain waves fall a little short of hitting the beach, that you make as much sense as windshield wipers on a goat's ass, and that you are living proof that **** can sprout legs and walk. I am also sure most of us will defend to your death the right to our opinions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's golden.

[DennisAJC]

Funny yes,

But I feel I've touched an issue he can't respond to except, "Funny". http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DennisAJC]

Paragon,

I'm curious if you have ANY REAL response to, in all fairness, valid concerns and views?

Or will you reply with another witty insult? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I wait for your response. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JMV1210:
I added you guys to my friends list on xbox..... where are you? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

In 1 hour. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was on looking for your bitch ass. I was teabagging everyone I killed. Pretty soon the other team was teabagging me. Soon most everyone waas teabagging and laughing hysterically. In the post game lobby everyone was laughing and yelling about how funny it was.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KenP:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> This quote from Paragon has to make the Funniest list:
Dennis,

You have to be the world's greatest proof of reincarnation-- no one could get that dumb in just one lifetime. Judging by the old saying, "What you don't know can't hurt you," you're practically invulnerable. Seriously, you had to have forgotten to pay your brain bill. You obviously have the IQ of tree bark and have now have reached rock bottom with signs showing that you are starting to dig. The new guys here don't realize that you have more faces than China and that you are normally out of your depth in a puddle of water. If you read your posts, it's easy to see that you were shot through a stupid forest and didn't miss a tree. It's just a shame that stupidity isn't painful. Most everyone realizes that your brain waves fall a little short of hitting the beach, that you make as much sense as windshield wipers on a goat's ass, and that you are living proof that **** can sprout legs and walk. I am also sure most of us will defend to your death the right to our opinions. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That's golden. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Instant classic. It qualifies for a Double Hop Pimp Slap Award.

But it sounds vaguely familiar.

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:

But it sounds vaguely familiar. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ya, vaguely. Butthead.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:

But it sounds vaguely familiar. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ya, vaguely. Butthead. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Anal tongue-darting midget... by midget, I mean in your pants.http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[KenP]

This should be good http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/channel/
Primetime tonight:

Tuesday, February 8, 2005, at 9P

Best of NGC Week
Pentagon 9/11 [TV-PG TV-PG]
On September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 was hijacked by terrorists who flew the plane into the Pentagon's west wall, killing 189 people. Pentagon 9-11 follows the events that led to the worst day of terrorist attacks on American soil.

Also airs:
Wednesday, February 9, 12A
Sunday, February 13, 6:00P