SUT SLANT BACK

[timgco]

So, SUT owners. Let's talk about this Slant Back deal.
I really want one (as I have mentioned 6000 times). After research and running into walls, I have come up with only one answer. My H2 brothers/ sisters and I will have to design one.

So there are some things to look into.
1) R&D.
Who has connections to professional fiber glass work and automotive glass? When I ask this I'm talking about Custom Work. Not Jimbob's glass shop. (unless Jimbob does custom work).

2) What options would you want?
Tinted/ plain glass. window defroster? rear Wiper? Automatic locking with remote?

3) Price?
there is a company (can't remeber the name off hand) who will not be producing one for the SUT but already has a conversion for the H1's. Their conversion starts at $3000.

On my truck i would like to see a high quality finsished product that will look OEM when finished. I would like to see it lock with the remote key fob only without an external lock and have a rear wiper and defroster. I would have it light up inside once the dome light is turned on with the truck or is opened. This can be done with door switches easily.

I know this would be a $3000 to $4000 project with all of those options. (Estimated) But once one is made and perfected cost should be cut in half for a prduction run.

I could have one made out of Alluminum Tubes for frame work and sheet metal finished with holes for glass, but this would be way to heavy. So fiberglass would be the way to go. I don't know anything about custom fiberglassing or molding for this either.

...let's talk about this.

[timgco]

So, SUT owners. Let's talk about this Slant Back deal.
I really want one (as I have mentioned 6000 times). After research and running into walls, I have come up with only one answer. My H2 brothers/ sisters and I will have to design one.

So there are some things to look into.
1) R&D.
Who has connections to professional fiber glass work and automotive glass? When I ask this I'm talking about Custom Work. Not Jimbob's glass shop. (unless Jimbob does custom work).

2) What options would you want?
Tinted/ plain glass. window defroster? rear Wiper? Automatic locking with remote?

3) Price?
there is a company (can't remeber the name off hand) who will not be producing one for the SUT but already has a conversion for the H1's. Their conversion starts at $3000.

On my truck i would like to see a high quality finsished product that will look OEM when finished. I would like to see it lock with the remote key fob only without an external lock and have a rear wiper and defroster. I would have it light up inside once the dome light is turned on with the truck or is opened. This can be done with door switches easily.

I know this would be a $3000 to $4000 project with all of those options. (Estimated) But once one is made and perfected cost should be cut in half for a prduction run.

I could have one made out of Alluminum Tubes for frame work and sheet metal finished with holes for glass, but this would be way to heavy. So fiberglass would be the way to go. I don't know anything about custom fiberglassing or molding for this either.

...let's talk about this.

[H2ZRESQ]

Tim

Give me a call about this. I may have some options.

[KenP]

Did you ever try to contact the Hydrogen HUMMER people about theirs? They may be able to provide contact info for whoever made theirs.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Did you ever try to contact the Hydrogen HUMMER people about theirs? They may be able to provide contact info for whoever made theirs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ken, I would love to, but I have no contacts there. Or know who to even look for to contact.
I have contacted aftermarket companies, pick up truck cap companies, and a few custom shops out in Cali.

[4churchill]

tim, let me know what you need from me, im definately in on whatever we need to do http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[CLAYDOG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Did you ever try to contact the Hydrogen HUMMER people about theirs? They may be able to provide contact info for whoever made theirs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The slant back on the Hydrogen HUMMER was done internally at GM, and unless someone pretty high up the corporate food chain decides to offer it as an SPO option there's no way to get one from GM. Now if your looking for someone that can do a top notch job and would like to do that project call Paul langlois, owner of Master Models and Molds @ 734-564-0524. He rode along with me in a SUT at Kinsalows last spring and we talked quite a bit about doing a slant back at the time.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CLAYDOG:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Did you ever try to contact the Hydrogen HUMMER people about theirs? They may be able to provide contact info for whoever made theirs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The slant back on the Hydrogen HUMMER was done internally at GM, and unless someone pretty high up the corporate food chain decides to offer it as an SPO option there's no way to get one from GM. Now if your looking for someone that can do a top notch job and would like to do that project call Paul langlois, owner of Master Models and Molds @ 734-564-0524. He rode along with me in a SUT at Kinsalows last spring and we talked quite a bit about doing a slant back at the time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

CLay Dog, you rock! I will try him later this afternoon. Thank you.

[Happy Hummer]

I just received a call from HUMMER Corporate and they have NO PLANS to bring out the slant back top for the SUT.

I would be interested in one too....

ROB

[CLAYDOG]

Just did some checking, and a company called Wheel to Wheel in Troy Mi.(Detroit area in any case) did the actual model and tooling work on the Hydrogen HUMMER. I don't know if they "own" the tooling or GM does,but if W2W owns the tools they may be able to sell parts out of them.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
http://www.wheeltowheelinc.com/

S </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Linky no worky.

Did a search on Dex and came up with squat too.

[PARAGON]

I think, think mind you, that wheel to wheel inc is now combined or has something to do with the new tecstar-starcraft thing. tecstarinc.com and starcraft.com are both not working either.

Maybe, try again tomorrow.

[Paul L]

no bs $2000 for a slant back any way you want it

[4churchill]

Paul, what about making us a sample or a prototype? if you can provide a finished prouct with OEM or better quality and good functionality, I am sure you would have multiple if not many customers from this site alone.

[Paul L]

We do loads of glasswork. The first one requires tons of work; all the others are strait out the mold. So as i have said before - first one is free, but you have to leave your sut at my shop for a few days. All others are $2000

[4churchill]

where is your shop paul? im interested

[Paul L]

in Mass.

[4churchill]

hmmm, maybe ill have to drive the rig up there this summer when im back in ny. where in mass?

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Paul L:
We do loads of glasswork. The first one requires tons of work; all the others are strait out the mold. So as i have said before - first one is free, but you have to leave your sut at my shop for a few days. All others are $2000 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you can make one that is like the H2H, I'd pay the $2000 and freight to get it here to CO. HAve you seen these pics?

[timgco]

pic 1

[timgco]

slant 2

[timgco]

pic 3

Notice the handle on the back.
want this to lock.

Also rear defroster.

Can you do this Paul?

[GeneseeMtn]

This is the outfit that makes the H1 slantback kits:

http://www.calgoldproducts.com/

Also, I've seen another H2SUT slantback besides this Hydrogen one. It was on a yellow H2 Sut that I saw in Durango last October. It makes me think that the photo of the slantback above is not a "one-off."

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GeneseeMtn:
This is the outfit that makes the H1 slantback kits:

http://www.calgoldproducts.com/

Also, I've seen another H2SUT slantback besides this Hydrogen one. It was on a yellow H2 Sut that I saw in Durango last October. It makes me think that the photo of the slantback above is not a "one-off." </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
good to know there is more than one now. I called CGP about maing one for the SUT, and they said NO! Not enough market to bother.

[timgco]

Ok, I talked with TecStar today. Wheel to Wheel is there engineering division. The slantbacks that have been put on a couple of trucks and are both prototypes. They have to perfect those protypes before production.

However, I was told that their company is looking down the road to produce them. the nice lady that I talked to is checking into when and will be getting back to me. Tecstar puts packages together for different vehicles.
Sounds like that would be a great job to have!

I'll keep you all posted as word is passed along.

for those that are considering haveing one made from scratch may want to wait until I hear back how long it will be and how much they will cost.

[4churchill]

tim can you post the number? maybe if enough of us call and request it, they will either a) hurry up production or b)definately produce if they still had some reservations...thanks for all the work!

[KenP]

Tim, are you close enough to be a "Test Vehicle"? That would be great.

[timgco]

They are in Michigan. rather than everyone calling, we should do a poll as to how many are interested in one and would purchase if not too costly. I'm hoping to hear something back soon with an answer as to when they will have a finished product. If it is too far down the road than I think we could all call. The lady that i talked to was very nice and informative. she said she would get back to me, so If we all call, I think that may cause frustration more than anything.

Keep in mind this won't be a low cost item. I could see this product going for 2 to 5K easily.

I think we should wait a few days and see what she comes back with. If it's too far down the road or the project is to be put on hold, those of us willing to drop some money and time into this project can start a PM and develope one ourselves.

...thoughts?

[Paul L]

yes to all questions. I can & will build some, I will be back on Mon. email me w/your phone # pleaman@comcast.net & I will contact you

[Paul L]

my shop does custom work 99.9% of the time, so building the 2nd one & on is a peice of cake.
Next week I'm contacting my dealer about a loaner for a couple of days to make a mold

[HUMMERDOGG]

Anybody notice the front grill in the first shot of H2H? What is that?-some new grill-guard?

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Posted by HUMMERDOGG:
Anybody notice the front grill in the first shot of H2H? What is that?-some new grill-guard? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>While it looks like an overlay, there appear to be two mounts on the bottom just inside the headlights. I bet you can't use it for pushing, just brush guarding.

[KenP]

Paul, what kind of wood will you make it out of? Koa or Bubinga? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[4churchill]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
Anybody notice the front grill in the first shot of H2H? What is that?-some new grill-guard? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

thats the same grill guard from that h2 black ops and h2 green ltd edition that they showed at sema

[dochummer]

It's the new style coming out. We've discussed the sidesteps somewhere on this board...

[4churchill]

http://motortrend.com/autoshows/coverage/112_04_sema4126_z.jpg

heres the black ops edition

[HUMMERDOGG]

dochummer-

I missed the sidestep discussion. I actually like that look. Anywone know if the sidesteps disconnect from the rock rails? I would actually go with that if they did. Thanks for the pic. I'll do a forum search for that sidestep thread.

[KenP]

Dogg, they are built into the "Rock" rails to the best of knowledge. Nothing else has been posted about them being removable.

[dochummer]

You could try contcting these people...

http://www.tstarproducts.com/tshome/H2.do#FenderFlareKit

I can't get the link to work...

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I can't get the link to work... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>




Maybe this (http://www.tstarproducts.com/tshome/H2.do) will do http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

[timgco]

Well, if anyone else wants to contact tech star on the slant back, PM me and I'll giv eyou what I have. I have left a VM with no reply. So others calling may help at this point

OR

Paul L, did you ever get your hands on an SUT for forming?

[4churchill]

tim send it my way...they've never had a jew on them http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Phil
I have tried to get info on the fender flare and under door section. The 325X60/20's sling dirt up side bad. The price seems high for both $1100. I have seen some for less on Gstyle, HiTech and a few other. Not sure if they look as good as these on jstarproducts. Just started researching. Do You have access to larger fender and and bottom of door protector to stop the wider tires from sling crap?
Thanks
TAZ


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by 4CHURCHILL:
tim send it my way...they've never had a jew on them http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Happy Hummer]

I was at the NY auto show on Tuesday and got a few close up pics of the slant back. I did speak with a rep and she confirmed that wheel to wheel DOES make the slant back for the SUT's.

[Happy Hummer]

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[Happy Hummer]

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[timgco]

Yes I brought this thread back! Again! http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I saw the Truckin Magazine (April) and saw a remark in a section about Govenor Slant back under the Reader's Rap page 18.

Even though I have already called Tech Star and got Zero info for us to have one built, Truckin Mag said that Decoma Inc is resposible.
www.decoma.com (http://www.decoma.com) 905-669-2888.
Anyone want to do some digging on this?

[ShaggyX]

To Lazy to do it yourself Tim? http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[HUMMERDOGG]

It's probably Bestop who built it. Bestop is a division of Decoma International which is owned by Magna International. The slantback top wouldn't be very difficult for them to do based upon what they are doing with Jeep hardtops...

http://www.bestop.com/index.php?c=2

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
It's probably Bestop who built it. Bestop is a division of Decoma International which is owned by Magna International. The slantback top wouldn't be very difficult for them to do based upon what they are doing with Jeep hardtops...

http://www.bestop.com/index.php?c=2 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Before we all heard of Tec Star (who claims to have built the Slant Back on the H2H) I had called different Cap companies. Bestop was the first since they made the cap for the Avalanche.
they said they had no plans to make one for the SUT becasue lack of sales.

[DanimalH2]

Did anyone find a group that was making these or is this a one off? I would like to know before I try and make one.

[timgco]

Did anyone find a group that was making these or is this a one off? I would like to know before I try and make one.

THere is 3 or 4 that have been found. And that's it. They were all hand made and none of the companies invloved would step up to prodution without paying for tooling costs. A couple members here offered that they could make one, but nothing was ever done.

So make one! :popcorn: We're all waiting.:D

[3Hummer]

Thats the H2H the hydrogen powered H2, thats the only one like that and i was watching something on it not to long ago and they said it wont be going into production. But I do think they should make it so you can put that Slant back on the SUT.

[IBHUMIN]

I have been trying to locate a slant back for over a year now with no luck. Partsguy from Sutliff Hummer has even tried all his contacts with no such luck either. If there is someone out there who is making them, send me their contact info please...........................

[MotorsportsAuthority aka Dragon]

Man... I'm about tired of these threads that I'm at the point of doing something. :D Althought we're still booked up for a couple of months. Arrrgh. I'll see what I can do about doing some rearranging. Anyone willing to do without theirs for maybe 3 or so months for me to do this between projects and after hours? I didn't jump on this before because I really didn't want to hold up someone's SUT for such an extended period.

[ASTAR]

Man, I am not trying to talk crap here but IMHO, those things are UGLY! I wouldn't put that on my rig if someone paid me to! :lame:

[Alan06SUT]

Man, I am not trying to talk crap here but IMHO, those things are UGLY! I wouldn't put that on my rig if someone paid me to! :lame:

:iagree:

But that Can Back set up is real cool. That is what I would buy.

[IBHUMIN]

Man... I'm about tired of these threads that I'm at the point of doing something. :D Althought we're still booked up for a couple of months. Arrrgh. I'll see what I can do about doing some rearranging. Anyone willing to do without theirs for maybe 3 or so months for me to do this between projects and after hours? I didn't jump on this before because I really didn't want to hold up someone's SUT for such an extended period.


give up my SUT for 3 months?? are you crazy??? :crying: I wouldn't be able to live without it! besides the only other things I have to drive are motorcycles are it is too cold this time of year for that. sorry.