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Adam in CO
08-29-2006, 04:05 PM
Did anyone get some pics of Neil's new stuff?

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 04:14 PM
Did anyone get some pics of Neil's new stuff?

X2!

I saw him post on here yesterday and PM'd him about it, but I didn't get a response. :rant: Gonna have to call him....

timgco
08-29-2006, 07:18 PM
I have pics of the bumper(s) and rear window protectors.

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 07:42 PM
I have pics of the bumper(s) and rear window protectors.

Don't post 'em! PM them too us tho. We need to care of the Colorado guys first! ;) ;) ;)

Agriv8r
08-29-2006, 08:56 PM
Don't PM, post them ;) ;) ;)



:iagree:

Alan06SUT
08-29-2006, 08:59 PM
Hey! Quit hoaring all of the good info you colorado bastards!:D :D :D Let's see these products!! Pics??

PARAGON
08-29-2006, 09:00 PM
Don't post 'em! PM them too us tho. We need to care of the Colorado guys first! ;) ;) ;)I believe I am the one with the highest need for the bumpers, UCP, and rock rails at the moment.

BTW, did you know today was the anniversay for Hurricane Katrina????? Shouldn't you feel sawry for me and take care of MY needs first?

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 09:06 PM
I believe I am the one with the highest need for the bumpers, UCP, and rock rails at the moment.

BTW, did you know today was the anniversay for Hurricane Katrina????? Shouldn't you feel sawry for me and take care of MY needs first?

OK, Para gets a hall pass on this. Tis true, He NEEDS them.




Lifetime BAN for Agriv8r.

timgco
08-29-2006, 09:08 PM
I can't post them. My laptop will not allow me the admin. controls to install the damn pic resizer.

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 09:09 PM
I can't post them. My laptop will not allow me the admin. controls to install the damn pic resizer.

Email them to me. See PM for my email address.

PARAGON
08-29-2006, 09:15 PM
I can't post them. My laptop will not allow me the admin. controls to install the damn pic resizer.
Need to send it to BAMF and let him fix it for ya.:dancingbanana:

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 10:34 PM
Need to send it to BAMF and let him fix it for ya.:dancingbanana:

:D :D :D :D but it's BAMFH2

2-H2's
08-29-2006, 10:36 PM
P, these are the new control arm supports to help prevent the tabs on the lift from bending.

2-H2's
08-29-2006, 10:40 PM
P, This is the new sliders & steps.

KenP
08-29-2006, 10:45 PM
Very nice.:beerchug:

timgco
08-29-2006, 11:12 PM
P, This is the new sliders & steps.

sweet! Do you have any shots away from the truck to get percpective on the look of sliders and truck together. Underside pic also? Who made these?

PARAGON
08-29-2006, 11:17 PM
sweet! Do you have any shots away from the truck to get percpective on the look of sliders and truck together. Underside pic also? Who made these?He did. And you can mount U-steps to them.

The A-frame bracket protection is schweet. I needed that this weekend also.

2-H2's
08-29-2006, 11:23 PM
sweet! Do you have any shots away from the truck to get percpective on the look of sliders and truck together. Underside pic also? Who made these?

Tim,

I'll get you some pics later tonight or Wednesday of the sliders. I built them before K-Rocks in a hurry. Since returning, I modified them...pulled them out 2.5" from the original mounting point. That way when I remove the steps for wheeling I can use them for sliders & steps.

Lee

2-H2's
08-29-2006, 11:26 PM
He did. And you can mount U-steps to them.

The A-frame bracket protection is schweet. I needed that this weekend also.

I saw your front bumper on another forum...;) These would have made a big difference from what I saw. I tested them on the Hummer course here & can't wait to see how they perform at ORV this weekend. :excited: :D

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 11:36 PM
2H,

What is #2 below covering? I don't get it.

Also, #1 - those bolts are exposed and will get sheared off with any amount of real wheeling. Have you done anything about that?

KenP
08-29-2006, 11:43 PM
#2 is the diff cover

Haven't had trouble with the bolts yet.

2-H2's
08-29-2006, 11:45 PM
2H,

What is #2 below covering? I don't get it.

Also, #1 - those bolts are exposed and will get sheared off with any amount of real wheeling. Have you done anything about that?

#2 is the fabtech front diff skid plate.

#1 bolts never touched anything at K-Rocks...plus I just added the two control arm supports to prevent damaging them, which stick out 2-3" from those bolts. I'm running a lifted SUT w/ 38's...the only damage so far wheeling has been my right rear E&G fender flare (which I trimmed flush with the bumper on both sides now) & my control arm tabs on the fabtech lift kit.

CO Hummer
08-29-2006, 11:55 PM
#2 is the fabtech front diff skid plate.

#1 bolts never touched anything at K-Rocks...plus I just added the two control arm supports to prevent damaging them, which stick out 2-3" from those bolts. I'm running a lifted SUT w/ 38's...the only damage so far wheeling has been my right rear E&G fender flare (which I trimmed flush with the bumper on both sides now) & my control arm tabs on the fabtech lift kit.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. I see now. I wasn't paying attention to the fact that you have a lift. That is very nice. Those Fabtech kits leave you really exposed. Thanks!

2-H2's
08-30-2006, 12:10 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh. I see now. I wasn't paying attention to the fact that you have a lift. That is very nice. Those Fabtech kits leave you really exposed. Thanks!

That's the reason for the added protection up front...the control arm tabs on the lift come in contact with everything on the trail. I'll find out this weekend if the added protection actually works.

If you have any ideas to correct these issues, by all means speak up...:beerchug:

2-H2's
08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
If these latest mods work out...then it's on to the CL issue :D

H2Oguy
08-30-2006, 03:38 AM
Here are some pics (hopefully)

Longhorn
08-30-2006, 04:29 AM
I like where you are going with that rear bumper. I've been waiting for a low profile, rock-oriented design. The departure angle looks considerably better.

I'm anxious to see a finished, powder coated version!:)

CO Hummer
08-30-2006, 05:47 AM
Neil,
Since you never read PMs but once a month......:D

I got your PM. I responded with some picks of the midrails near the exhaust. Check your PM!

Alan06SUT
08-30-2006, 04:38 PM
Do you have rock rails or new under carrage protection? I'm looking for something that does not reduce ground clearance or add hundreds of pounds.

I think the stock stuff is pretty darn good, but I'm tired of taking it all off and banging it back straight after each trip. Plus I think it is now weaker after bending it back and forth so many times.

CO Hummer
08-30-2006, 05:28 PM
Do you have rock rails or new under carrage protection? I'm looking for something that does not reduce ground clearance or add hundreds of pounds.

I think the stock stuff is pretty darn good, but I'm tired of taking it all off and banging it back straight after each trip. Plus I think it is now weaker after bending it back and forth so many times.

You have a dilemma then. If you want something you don't need bang back straight every time, then you need something beefy. That means adding a lot of weight.

Neil's skid and midrails each weight about 100lbs. You have to pay the weight price to get something that won't buckle under a 7000 lbs vehicle. There's no disputing it - taking off the skid plate is a bit of a pain. I've done it 2 twice. It requires using a floor jack (which can be bought at walmart for only $40). And, I recommend using through-bolts on the rear of the plates (two outside bolts) to fully secure it from coming loose. It's really not difficult. But it's not like the taking off that worthless factory tinfoil skid which weighs almost nothing.

You DON'T have to remove the skid to change the oil. You don't have to remove the plate to reach the 11 zerk valves for a lube job (provided you change that upper one a right angle valve). You don't have to remove the skid to change the front diff fluid. I've seen people post that you have to take the factory skid off get to the zerks. I don't remember exactly how my old factory one fit, but the new skid is open enough of the sides to reach the zerks.

KenP
08-30-2006, 11:08 PM
Pee really causes rust.:giggling: :shhh: :giggling:

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29112&d=1156905381

Alan06SUT
08-30-2006, 11:18 PM
You have a dilemma then. If you want something you don't need bang back straight every time, then you need something beefy. That means adding a lot of weight.

Neil's skid and midrails each weight about 100lbs. You have to pay the weight price to get something that won't buckle under a 7000 lbs vehicle. There's no disputing it - taking off the skid plate is a bit of a pain. I've done it 2 twice. It requires using a floor jack (which can be bought at walmart for only $40). And, I recommend using through-bolts on the rear of the plates (two outside bolts) to fully secure it from coming loose. It's really not difficult. But it's not like the taking off that worthless factory tinfoil skid which weighs almost nothing.

You DON'T have to remove the skid to change the oil. You don't have to remove the plate to reach the 11 zerk valves for a lube job (provided you change that upper one a right angle valve). You don't have to remove the skid to change the front diff fluid. I've seen people post that you have to take the factory skid off get to the zerks. I don't remember exactly how my old factory one fit, but the new skid is open enough of the sides to reach the zerks.

How much do they reduce ground clearance?

As for the weight, I would think a simple steel skidplate w/ ridges rather than the aluminum one would work up front (maybee 60 Lbs if you use like 3/16"); and just adding a couple of angle pieces to the stock mid-plate( 20 lbs) to give it better lateral stiffness would do it. Or just double the thickness of the tubes on the stock mid rails to make it about 60 lbs.

What about the rock sliders? Does his have something flat on the bottom to keep rocks from peeling back the body mount and slider mounts when you are on rocks? Mine are bent to hell! I like the idea that they stick out some so they can be used a small step, or to keep rocks farther from the body in tight squeezes. Some of the oter ones I've seen (for diffrent makes) have a bar that comes up and away to help keep rocks out of the rocker and lower doors. Like the ones on this K5...
http://coloradok5.com/spec.jpg
http://coloradok5.com/uavrockpile.jpg

H2Oguy
08-31-2006, 01:12 AM
The front skid is actually 85 or 90 lbs. it is made a 3/16" materials but has lots of support members to take lots of abuse.

Keeping the same design of the factory mid rail and just making the material thicker does not work the design is not adequate to get the job done. Mid rails are 105lbs.

The H2 is = to a 3/4 ton truck some extra weight does not mess with it.

Total ground clearance is reduced by .5" max. I believe it is a bit more is certain locations but all in all .5".

Rock Rails do have a removable full skid plate that is attached. I can not find any of the old pics but my design has changed a bit, and I should have pics of the new set tomorrow (unfinished, I am working on them right now).

CO Hummer
08-31-2006, 03:45 AM
Keeping the same design of the factory mid rail and just making the material thicker does not work the design is not adequate to get the job done.

No doubt. The factory peice of junk goes about HALF the distance of the midrail (ends just before the t-case covering).

http://www.atkinsweb.com/shared/H2_Underbody/MidRail01.JPG

PARAGON
08-31-2006, 03:55 AM
Keeping the same design of the factory mid rail and just making the material thicker does not work the design is not adequate to get the job done.

No doubt. The factory peice of junk goes about HALF the distance of the midrail (ends just before the t-case covering).

http://www.atkinsweb.com/shared/H2_Underbody/MidRail01.JPGEven others coming up with new stuff on Ebay still don't quite "get it."
http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/08/25/a8/2d_3.JPG

Alan06SUT
08-31-2006, 03:56 AM
No doubt. The factory peice of junk goes about HALF the distance of the midrail (ends just before the t-case covering).

http://www.atkinsweb.com/shared/H2_Underbody/MidRail01.JPG
Thats a nice piece.

timgco
09-20-2006, 11:26 PM
Tim,

I'll get you some pics later tonight or Wednesday of the sliders. I built them before K-Rocks in a hurry. Since returning, I modified them...pulled them out 2.5" from the original mounting point. That way when I remove the steps for wheeling I can use them for sliders & steps.

Lee

Any pics yet? Thanks.

31_bandits
09-21-2006, 04:20 PM
well, if a waiting list for this stuff breaks out I may have to get a little more involved with the old tools & figga something out.

:(

31_bandits
09-21-2006, 04:20 PM
but 3 cheers for H2O