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timgco
02-06-2007, 05:11 AM
There's nothing worse than a cold HUMMER. :fdance:
I'm in WI this week and do not have access to a garage. It was -15 @ 7am today. Yep, minus 15! INSANE! I haven't been around this type of cold in quite some time, and when last I was, I had a heated garage to park in.
I went to start up the truck this AM to "warm" it up. I had turned everything off in the truck the evening before, full tank of gas.
I couldn't believe the noises the truck made after starting up. It sounded along the lines of stepping on a cat. The truck tuned over with a light hesitation and than seem to run OK.
After 15 minutes of running the heat on high, having the heated seats on high, I ventured back out to the truck. I put the truck into drive and two things happened. One I had no power steering at first. I had to really turn hard. It was comparable to being aired down and turning your wheel up against a large boulder. AFfter a minutes or so of working the wheel back and forth, it was back to normal. Than I stepped on gas to go and the truck "chugged." It was comparable to an old car running on 1/2 of the cylinders it should be. After the initial shifting up to about 40mph, that went awa as well. The truck also feels like it has no shocks.
So, at some point I hope my boys drop back down from the size of skittles back to their normal kiwi size, I need to figure out a way to get this truck warmed up.
Can Rancho shock freeze up?
Do you think my PS Pump was froze? or steering lube on something froze?
What do people do with their trucks/ cars when they live in this type of weather on a normal basis every year?
BlueHUMMERH2
02-06-2007, 05:22 AM
I've spent quite a bit of time in sub-zero temperatures. Same experiences basically. Belts whine (horribly), power steering is null at first, acceleration is slow, engine is noisy, etc.
I've always had to keep the car outside, so I would go out, hop in, and go. Not much else I could do. It would usually warm up about half way to work, and then I'd have to suffer the same fate at the end of the day.
So I'd say this is normal behavior. Actually, the BMW's I used to run in the cold put up much more of a fuss. Except for the damn battery, the H2 usually doesn't have a problem starting in the cold.
PS I'm sitting here in about 10F and I just ALMOST had the battery not turn over the engine (AGAIN!). I didn't have my jumper pack either! UGH! I need a new battery.
hummer74
02-06-2007, 05:24 AM
i used to live in chicago and had alot of the same problems. -15 degree temps will do that to any vehicle. you're lucky it even started. my old car in chicago wouldn't even start when it was below 0ish.
ssgharkness020147
02-06-2007, 05:41 AM
Where about in Wi are you Tim? I'm out in Oconomowoc, if you want to get a beer hit me up.
timgco
02-06-2007, 06:08 AM
Where about in Wi are you Tim? I'm out in Oconomowoc, if you want to get a beer hit me up.
Lake Geneva.
I have meetings all week or I would swing up there.
I like Oconomowoc...esp. in the Summer. :perfect10s:
That's cold. I don't like that.
U = :OWNED: :giggling:
dеiтайожни
02-06-2007, 06:26 AM
What do people do with their trucks/ cars when they live in this type of weather on a normal basis every year?
They install remote starters so they don't freeze their balls off. And I don't know... never had those problems with vehicles that were in that type of weather on a normal basis.
MarineHawk
02-06-2007, 02:27 PM
8 degrees this morning here. Started up just fine. Warmed up for about 3 minutes and drove normally. I don't know how it would do in minus 15.
Humdingah
02-06-2007, 05:38 PM
Did an oil change here in Denver last week and it was a similar circumstance...it had been hovering around 0-degrees the night before and after letting the truck idle for about 5 minutes I yanked the drain plug and the 5W-30 was about the consistency of maple syrup. Only drained about 1/4 quart that way and plugged it back up before letting it idle for another 20 minutes to warm everything up.
It's no wonder that -15 would cause things to be a little 'slow.'
CO Hummer
02-06-2007, 06:43 PM
Haha Tim. Did you know it was 50 degree here at 8am? :D
When it gets really cold here - I have similar things happen to my Burb which I leave outside. I wouldn't sweat it - it all goes back to normal with a little warm up.
Hope your little fruits are ok.
ZigsRig
02-06-2007, 07:19 PM
Hope your little fruits are ok.
CO,
I dont want to have to think about tim's "little fruits" this early in the afternoon... actually, i dont want to think about them EVER :D
CO Hummer
02-06-2007, 07:21 PM
CO,
I dont want to have to think about tim's "little fruits" this early in the afternoon... actually, i dont want to think about them EVER :D
Let's not joke about him in the public forum, man. Leave his li'l blueberries out of it.
Adam in CO
02-06-2007, 08:59 PM
50 at home now. Lots of melting going on. Even got to drive the wee car today.
MDimitri
02-06-2007, 10:03 PM
I live in Calgary where we have fluctuating temperatures in winter ranging from -40 to +18 celcius(Thanks greatly to the Chinook Winds). I always have my rig parked outside, my wife uses the garage and the rest of my stuff is on the other side of her car, hence no room for the H2! I looked into the Optima battery but found that it only provides you with a two year warranty and costs roughly $300.00+ and comes with a heavy duty 800 Cold Crank Amp kick over. Since this is the recommended standard for starting th H2 it is fine, but not for us up here...I obtained a Battery from a company up here with 1200 Cold Crank Amp kick over along with a 5year warranty for $98.00! It does not matter how cold it gets the truck starts every time. As for noises, the belt sometimes squeels a bit but thats about it!
WINTER ROCKS IN CANADA!!
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mikejr
02-07-2007, 02:26 AM
was -1 here in pittsburgh today. When i fired up the H2 it made a really odd squeal for about 2 seconds then ran normally. My wife heard it inside the house. I also noticed that the power steering was a tad on the non existent side at first. I let it warm out about 10 minutes before driving it. I noticed that it rode really rough in that cold of weather, i think the tires were just a tad hard due to the cold weather. Seems to be running quite well in the cold weather.
tazhog54
02-07-2007, 05:45 AM
I use to live in Green Bay ,Wis. Born in Oshkosh Lived there till I was 28 and moved to California. DO NOT MISS THAT COLD !! Got married in Jan -24 degrees below zero and that was with no wind chill. :dancingbanana: They said it would be a cold day in hell when I got married :clapping: Wait till the outside locks freeze and the truck running with the keys in it.The fun begins:clapping:
HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ
02-07-2007, 10:03 AM
Many types of block heaters will help. There are oil pan heaters that help. Engine and tranny dipstick heaters would help.
A good cheap way to help is a blanket and a drop light to add heat under blanket just be careful of placement with shield of drop light towards blanket and use a small stick to make a tent like situation that will also help keep the drop light from coming in contact with blanket.
I do not need these things anymore but, when farming the block heater in place of a freeze plug worked really well as starting the diesel engines on the huge tractors.
TAZ
Boar-Ral
02-07-2007, 04:24 PM
What do people do with their trucks/ cars when they live in this type of weather on a normal basis every year?
My H2 sits outside all year, even when the weather drops below -40C. It has never refused to start, even when I've forgotten to plug in the block heater. My only complaint is that when it is below about -10C, when it starts, the engine makes a sound similar to a kazoo, for about five seconds. I tried stepping on the gas once to see if it would stop it, but it just made the sound REALLY loud. Other than that, no problems. Gear selection is easy and clean, steering might be marginally stiffer, but nothing I would consider difficult; could still be done with one hand, probably even a finger. I let mine warm up for about 30 seconds and if the windshield is not fogged, take off. The vehicle is built to adjust shift patterns when the engine is cold in order to warm it up faster. (Just information learned from the manual.) So if you can see out the windows, drive it. :)
Boar-Ral
02-07-2007, 04:27 PM
PS I'm sitting here in about 10F and I just ALMOST had the battery not turn over the engine (AGAIN!). I didn't have my jumper pack either! UGH! I need a new battery.
My battery is working well, though I know it does not hold a full charge. I accidentally discharged it last year and I think that messed up one of the cells. I have an Optima Yellow Top that I pulled from my Avalanche before I sold it, and I am thinking of installing it in the H2. I think it is a little smaller than the factory one though, and I really need to go over the numbers first to make sure I am not putting in a lower-capacity battery.
Boar-Ral
02-07-2007, 04:30 PM
They install remote starters so they don't freeze their balls off. And I don't know... never had those problems with vehicles that were in that type of weather on a normal basis.
It does seem odd. My daily driver is an old 1996 Chevrolet Lumina sedan and even during a cold snap dipping to -35C around Christmas, it started easily and performed well, even though I forgot to plug in the block heater. Steering is a little stiff and putting the car in gear was like doing it in molasses, but it didn't complain. Fortunately, the Lumina has a remote starter. I have a two-way remote starter and alarm for the H2, but it is currently in a box on the shelf. I really need to get it installed.
Boar-Ral
02-07-2007, 04:34 PM
I live in Calgary where we have fluctuating temperatures in winter ranging from -40 to +18 celcius(Thanks greatly to the Chinook Winds). I always have my rig parked outside, my wife uses the garage and the rest of my stuff is on the other side of her car, hence no room for the H2! I looked into the Optima battery but found that it only provides you with a two year warranty and costs roughly $300.00+ and comes with a heavy duty 800 Cold Crank Amp kick over. Since this is the recommended standard for starting th H2 it is fine, but not for us up here...I obtained a Battery from a company up here with 1200 Cold Crank Amp kick over along with a 5year warranty for $98.00! It does not matter how cold it gets the truck starts every time. As for noises, the belt sometimes squeels a bit but thats about it!
Does anyone know if Optima changed their warranties? When I bought my Optima Yellow Top five years ago, it came with a ten year pro-rated warranty. If they have changed their warranty, it would really influence my decision to purchase another one. I think Canadian Tire offers a battery that even exceeds 1,200 CCA. I have also seen a couple other batteries using similar designs to Optima; I think Energizer makes a car battery using a spiral design and it costs less than half what the Optima did. Of course, there is more to an Optima than just the spiral design, but the Energizer might be sealed too and have those benefits. I need to look into this now.
Boar-Ral
02-07-2007, 04:56 PM
I do not need these things anymore but, when farming the block heater in place of a freeze plug worked really well as starting the diesel engines on the huge tractors.
When I owned my diesel Excursion, the vehicle performed great in cold weather. Ford uses an inline fuel heater that seemed to work well. Though one winter, it dropped to around -55C and on my drive home from work, the engine began to surge and the check engine light came on. Made it to a heavy duty diesel shop and they gave me some free sample of fuel line conditioner, which I found amusing because even with the enormous tank on the Excursion, it still only took a quarter packet of this free sample. Everything worked though and within two blocks of driving, the check engine light went out and everything was good.
Man, I wish I still had the Excursion. 24 mpg for a vehicle that size was so nice. :)
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