Duramax H2

[Tom S]

This was taken off of Humvee.net I just thought some of you might be interested.

Well, I had a good talk today with the folks at one of the top diesel shops
in Salt Lake City and they told me that someone had brought in an H2 -- with a Duramax for work.

They said, yes, they know that supposedly it is not supposed to fit nor the
transmission -- but despite what the factory, GM, and everybody else has
said, they do fit and that they've seen it.

Apparently, the owner of the H2 purchased a Duramax truck and then removed
the engine and transmission from it and dropped it into their H2. The work
was done by a regular (gas) shop in Layton Utah.

These folks are incredibly knowledgeable and if they say it, I am very
inclined to believe it. They are magicians when it comes to diesels and
can do most anything if it can be done.

So, there you have it -- the Duramax can indeed fit in the H2. Perhaps
with not a lot of extra room (both of us wondered about cooling), but it
appears as if it can be done.

-Art

[Tom S]

This was taken off of Humvee.net I just thought some of you might be interested.

Well, I had a good talk today with the folks at one of the top diesel shops
in Salt Lake City and they told me that someone had brought in an H2 -- with a Duramax for work.

They said, yes, they know that supposedly it is not supposed to fit nor the
transmission -- but despite what the factory, GM, and everybody else has
said, they do fit and that they've seen it.

Apparently, the owner of the H2 purchased a Duramax truck and then removed
the engine and transmission from it and dropped it into their H2. The work
was done by a regular (gas) shop in Layton Utah.

These folks are incredibly knowledgeable and if they say it, I am very
inclined to believe it. They are magicians when it comes to diesels and
can do most anything if it can be done.

So, there you have it -- the Duramax can indeed fit in the H2. Perhaps
with not a lot of extra room (both of us wondered about cooling), but it
appears as if it can be done.

-Art

[Tom S]

This was taken off of Humvee.net I just thought some of you might be interested.

Well, I had a good talk today with the folks at one of the top diesel shops
in Salt Lake City and they told me that someone had brought in an H2 -- with a Duramax for work.

They said, yes, they know that supposedly it is not supposed to fit nor the
transmission -- but despite what the factory, GM, and everybody else has
said, they do fit and that they've seen it.

Apparently, the owner of the H2 purchased a Duramax truck and then removed
the engine and transmission from it and dropped it into their H2. The work
was done by a regular (gas) shop in Layton Utah.

These folks are incredibly knowledgeable and if they say it, I am very
inclined to believe it. They are magicians when it comes to diesels and
can do most anything if it can be done.

So, there you have it -- the Duramax can indeed fit in the H2. Perhaps
with not a lot of extra room (both of us wondered about cooling), but it
appears as if it can be done.

-Art

[Livin\' Large]

http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Ya right. Show me pictures, receipts or something to verify this. I say not possible. The frame of the H2 will not accomodate the Duramax and Allison transmission. There is not enough room. I say BS....Till you prove otherwise....

[Tom S]

As I said Livin i copy and pasted this for the humvee.net forum. Therefore i have no evidence. I thought it might be interests some people.

Thomas S

[timgco]

Since I am very wise to most of the shops in SLC and am somewhat familiar withthe Layton area. I would like to find out what shop did this. I doubt it! But I guess anything's possible... with proof!

[HUMMERDOGG]

Actually, go to:

http://www.real4wd.com/content/page-events.asp

Kascar is unveiling their supercharged diesel H2 on Saturday, September 25. They don't say if they used the Duramax or not, however it should be interesting...

[DURAMAX TIM]

Well since it's supercharged maybe they put a detroit in it.

[mmayo]

Tom S is correct. Wait for the SEMA show in November.

[Yetti]

My friend has a 3500 crew cab with a 471 Detroit & Allison trans. but it doesn't make it right?

I would prefer putting a cummins and a 6 speed in one over the duraturd.

[alecs wife]

http://www.amgeneral.com/vehicles_gep_productinfo.php

I think this is the motor Kaskar is using in the conversion H2.

A super-charged OPTIMIZER 6500 is the perfect answer for those who demand the ultimate in power. This top-performing diesel engine provides better fuel economy than most “big block” gasoline V8s, while producing more than 300 hp at 3500 rpm.

Check it out.

[Steve R]

Hmmmm....for $20 I can get you a looping CD of diesel-sounds you can play really loud on your radio and for an additional $10 I'll throw in a "diesel fuel only" sticker for your fuel cap!

And if you act now we'll include a set of fragrance scents which will fill your cab with the scent of buring diesel fuel. Refills available!

Other accessories include a CD of assorted mechanical failure sounds; you'll get "snapped tie-rod (courtesy of some video circulating world-wide), burning tire rubber for lack of traction, "pop goes the diff", "clunk goes the under-frame" and my favorite "blam goes the skid-plate".

[PARAGON]

Hey Seth, the full LPE package is $55,000. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

700 Horsepower @ 5,200 RPM
740 lbs – ft of torque @ 4,600 RPM

All wheel drive or 4 wheel drive
Complete 427 CID engine and turbo package includes:

Two true ball bearing turbochargers
High efficiency air to air chargecooler
4 into 1 custom stainless exhaust manifolds
Two K&N 360 degree conical air filters
Turbocharger water feed and return hoses
Turbocharger oil feed and return hoses
Custom 7.0 L aluminum C5R block
CNC porting and polishing of LS1 cylinder heads
Billet steel connecting rods
Forged 4340 crankshaft
Forged aluminum pistons
Custom hydraulic roller camshaft
High performance valve springs
Stainless steel one piece heavy duty intake 2.02” 1.60”/ inconel exhaust valves
Three angle valve job, checking of spring tensions & heights
Computer balanced rotating assembly
Reassembly and blueprinting of engine
Properly sized fuel injectors and high capacity fuel system
Professional installation, testing and PCM recalibration
LPE's 2 year / 24,000 mile warranty
Original engine long block in exchange

Engine package installed $55,975.00

http://www.lingenfelter.com/performance427suvturbo.asp

But of course this requires and engine swap as well.

[PARAGON]

I'd kill myself with that much power, plus it would just be too money buying tires all of the time. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I would like to see the diesel in the H2 as an option but would not want to give it a shot as a retro-fit.

The answer to your question as to why...because they can...why else? It certainly can't be any practical reasons.

[Steve R]

Seth,

Diesel gas typically costs less per gallon then gasoline. Long ago it cost a lot less...today it's about the same, sometimes higher, but usually about 10 - 15% lower. So it's cheaper to buy by the gallon.

The big plus is the mpg: diesel often gets nearly twice the miles per gallon...well almost, depends on the application. My company runs some large trucks, the gas models (with big V8's) got about 7-8 mpg, whereas our International intercooled turbo-diesels enjoy nearly 14 mpg!!! BUT these are large trucks with heavy weight. Diesel engines do great with producing lots of torque to pull heavy loads, so they are ideal for heavy vehicles.

The other benefit is longevity: the same International trucks have a rating such that 90% of the engines are expected to run 480,000 miles before needing an overhaul. The gasoline engine may only run about 200,000.

So there you BASICALLY have it; fuel economy & longevity. The downside is the higher costs to aquire, difficulty in finding the fuel readily available (not all stations have diesel) and when you do work on a diesel, it typically costs more then a gas engine.

The diesel has smooth low-end torque and that's nice for offroading slowly. It also sounds really powerful and some like the fragrance.

Course, when I smell diesel it always takes me back to the stern of a boat where a tuna, yellowtail or dorado are about to meet their demise... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Steve R:
Course, when I smell diesel it always takes me back to the stern of a boat where a tuna, yellowtail or dorado are about to meet their demise... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So, Steve, is that an invitation?

[Kevin B]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Hmmmm....for $20 I can get you a looping CD of diesel-sounds you can play really loud on your radio and for an additional $10 I'll throw in a "diesel fuel only" sticker for your fuel cap!

And if you act now we'll include a set of fragrance scents which will fill your cab with the scent of buring diesel fuel. Refills available!

Other accessories include a CD of assorted mechanical failure sounds; you'll get "snapped tie-rod (courtesy of some video circulating world-wide), burning tire rubber for lack of traction, "pop goes the diff", "clunk goes the under-frame" and my favorite "blam goes the skid-plate". <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROTF http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

[Steve R]

Paragon....

Your in MS. Dude....what are you going to do when a Tuna takes your 50-pound line and dives down so fast that your reel is singing and you've got your drag already set to max?

When your bicep is about to explode, your back about to cramp and your only 1/2-way through a 30-minute battle to bring that fish even near the boat?

YOUR DAMN RIGHT IT'S AN INVITATION!

let me know when your in/near town!

Kev....you know I've got that "blam goes the skid-plate" song well memorized. You've got a baby-scratch compared to my well-played plate. I can't even read the "H2" anymore.... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

We have great fishing out in the Gulf a few hours from here, you can also do some great billfishing off the coast.

But I never fished the Pacific, I'll be sure to hold you to your invite the next time I'm out that way.

[Camper Bob]

Diesel engines certainly have amazing low end torque, increased durability, etc., that would make it a great choice if you do a lot of towing or haul lots of heavy stuff. However, the mileage difference alone will take eons to recoup the increased cost to buy one...

Also, while the LPE beast sounds like tons of fun, one has to wonder about the distinct possibility of throwing driveline bits as far the eye can see upon romping on the GO pedal..

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Camper Bob:
Also, while the LPE beast sounds like tons of fun, one has to wonder about the distinct possibility of throwing driveline bits as far the eye can see upon romping on the GO pedal.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I think a certainty would better describe that.

[KenP]

Even though I don't have that 700 hp TT, just the younger brother, I was concerned about bits of my driveline also. Up grade the transmission. That's it. Don't worry about the axles. The tires just spin right away. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by KenP:
The tires just spin right away. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[Camper Bob]

Spinning tires=good.

[mmayo]

Here are some pics of the H2 I mentioned that will be at the SEMA show this November in the Edge booth. BTW, Lyndon Wester of Westers Garage did the programming on it. Duramax H2 (http://www.powerplayperformance.com/powerplay/default.htm)

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Livin' Large:
http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Ya right. Show me pictures, receipts or something to verify this. I say not possible. The frame of the H2 will not accomodate the Duramax and Allison transmission. There is not enough room. I say BS....Till you prove otherwise.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[1BADH2]

I want one!!!

[Black 05]

Will there be any Duramax H2 at SEMA this year?