DRL's as switchable fog lights........

[Gary C]

I took off the brush guard and the fog lights. So, I would like to make the DRL's as fogs with the option to turn them on and off with the wiring and switch that is mounted in the overhead console which use to work the fog lights on the now removed brush guard?

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[Gary C]

I took off the brush guard and the fog lights. So, I would like to make the DRL's as fogs with the option to turn them on and off with the wiring and switch that is mounted in the overhead console which use to work the fog lights on the now removed brush guard?

thanks http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

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[HummerGUY]

Hey, if you removed you old fog lights and brush guard, is there any chance you would be willing to sell the fog lamp mounts ( the mounts only)? Thanks!

[Gary C]

Actually the dealer gave me credit for the parts, sorry, any help on the way?

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[Gary C]

Thanks Phil, I wish I was an electrician, if a plug is pulled out of the wall I know how to fix it and that’s where it ends, I have some HID’s to put in and have some Xenon blue bulbs coming for the DRL’s,

I did a search but was looking for an easy fix using the Driving Lights Switch on the over head console, I guess I am S.O.L for a while until I meet the right People here in Indy, only been here for 100 plus days, if I was still in San Diego (30 years) it wouldn’t be a problem.

Thanks for the clarification on the fog/driving deal…

Thanks for the Help

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[JSA_3]

I hope I'm not beating a dead horse...or opening a can of worms, either but....

I've been watching the threads, on DRL's for the same solution as GaryC, and like the idea of the 8156 50w bulb, and am eager to hear if anything melts.

I am curious about possibility of using the stock driving lights from an '02 or later Yukon Denali, or the'03 GMC Sierra P/U in place of the H2's drl's. The stock button/switch may be able to be incorporated under the rear wiper switch as well.

I have not done any research, but might be worth a try.

Any thoughts??

thanks,
JSA_3 (west texas white)

[JSA_3]

oooops..... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

forgive my ignorance....

just referred to my wife's Denali owners book, and looking over the set up....

I think they are actually fog lights not driving lights (though would certainly put out more light than the H2's)and are wired into the headlight relay and actually turn off when hi beams are selected.

I will take a look at the vehicle tonight and measure bulbs etc. to see if it might even be possible/feasable.

[PARAGON]

I also have a Denali (2001 Yukon XL Denali) and haven't even given thought to see if the fogs from it will work in replacement of the H2 DRL's.

I'll also try to take a look this afternoon to see if it looks like they might work.

[Texas Red]

If you want fog lights (and no brush guard) how about using the set up shown and discussed here:
http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=2606011751&m=5866086132

You can use the existing wiring from the off-road lights, which you removed. Switch is already in place.

Jim
Red H2

[buddy]

The DRL's are for YOU to be seen, not for you to see. The optics are similiar to a flashlight.
We can install white, blue and yellow bulbs, but still won't get anything more than a glare on the wall. The DRL's should have been designed with better optics, some that could also be used as fogs.

One suggestion, buy quality lighting and you'll be much happier when you get on the road.
I've been a Hella user for many years and been very satisfied with their products. Some lighting is not worth the time installing.

Recently, I did a Cibie cornering light install, which replaced my Hella Black Magic's on the brush guard. The optics on the Cibie's create light much like a fog beam, but much wider,( 75 m wide) over 200 m down the road. They are awesome and have some well designed optics. Mine are wired thru a relay and activated by highbeams. Cibie also makes the driving version with same housing which I'll be installing soon.

Piaa makes some good lighting. I think Mango was installing some 510's or 540's awhile back, but don't know what the outcome was. I like to change the DRL's too if anyone finds some lights that will fit. Rewiring to work is no problem.

Buddy

[buddy]

PhilD,

The 500 Round and 550 Rectangle were the first of the Hella's I ever used. I found them the other day in a box I stored 6-7 yrs ago. They were ok at the time. I also dug out a couple of KC 160w daylighters still in the box. Those I gave to friend with a new Ford HD. Now those lights get HOT.

Are the factory aux lights made by Bosch?

Jen at SUV lights has some Bosch HID's for 299.00 each. Jen says they use the same bulb and ballast as the Hella 4000's which cost twice as much. They will easily fit the H2, whereas the 4000's would require modifying the brush guard. And they would look huge on the H2.
I have a set on a truck and they look ok, but the H2's brush guard is wrapped too tight for these monsters.

Narva mades some smaller HID brush lights which would fit similiar to the KC's, but IMO look better. On the negative side, they have no US dealer and do not have any provisions for accepting credit cards and are shipped from Melborne, Aus.

If you find some fogs that will replace the DRL's I'd be interested.

Buddy

[Tucson Beast]

PhilD

I have a light bar on roof (installed by dealer) and two lights on grille (also installed by Dealer). You have heard this issue about the Dealer wiring only four lights rather than six. Having said that - can you tell me how you wired your two grille lights to your high beam - the more I think of this arrangement the more I like it. I never use the high beam in town because the Silverstars and DRL (used the jump) are plenty - it is only away from town (out in no where) where I would use the brights (now including the grille lights) plus the four roof lights (I would like to aim the outside ones outward to light more side area) - Is this simple?

[Tucson Beast]

PhilD

Thanks - If you have the time for a sketch I would sure appreciate it - and thanks for your time to try all of these new things - I feel that this light configuration is fantastic. If I ever get back to Corpus/Alice/Sinton - I will treat you with that Whataburger.

[Happy Hummer]

I was waiting for the new bumper from SMA that will enable us to mount aftermarket lights in the DRL's space.

Has anyone heard anymore about this new bumper???

Thanks,
ROB

2003 Hummer H2, Black Lux. Pkg, Breathless HID lights and Stage 2B engine kit, Mazzi Maximus 18" chrome wheels and BFG 35X12.50 18 KM Mud Terrain Tires, Alpine DVD Navigation System, Myron & Davis 7" headrest monitors, Audiovox 10 disc DVD Changer, XM Delphi Satellite radio, NSXTC DRL upgrade, Whelen Air Horn
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[JSA_3]

After looking at my Denali and H2 side by side, I'm pretty sure that the fogs from the Denali could not be simply switched out.

They are identical in size and shape, but the similarities stop there. The denali light has a bracket actually attached to the backside of the light that mounts to the airdam, I could not see a way to take the light out of the bracket, even if I could the holes that are at the 12 and 6 o'clock position on the H2 light arent there. Also, the flange that accepts the bulb socket is different, so you'd be looking at wiring changes as well.

Oh well,, http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

I did discover upon inspecting my H2's drl's that the chromed plastic inside the housing at the 12 o'clock position is fading (burning??)to the bare white plastic. Wasn't that way 10days ago at the car wash, I've got 235hrs on the hourmeter, (90% or so daytime) and have been running the stock bulb.

Has anyone else seen this??

Thanks,
John
JSA_3 (west texas white)

[Gary C]

I think, ouch, someone stated the the stock wattage is 27 in the DRL's, so I found this sight which sells 40 watt HID appearing blueish bulbs so I am going to try those, the seller says they work fine,,,we will see,,,,,,,,hope I don't get melting... http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

Everyone, I appreciate the thoughts and ideas on this subject but I need to remember what Buddy said, "FLASHLIGHT optics" sooooooooo, I hope the HID's Headlights will fill my needs, still waiting for the extra bridge that is needed for the system, needs two....

thanks again

GC

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[buddy]

Gary,
What kind of HID's are you installing?

Replacing the headlamp units is the best way to do the hid's. 9007 HID retrofit kits are not very efficient. This is due to the position of the side by side fliaments of the 9007, the hid retrofits are low beam only and will not give you a decent pattern, you may see less than you did with the halogens.

Some of the members here have changed the headlamp units and had satisfactory results. http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

[This message was edited by buddy on March 07, 2003 at 11:06 AM.]

[Gary C]

PhilD, what is the difference with one bridge or two??? Remember me idiot, http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif. Also the blueish HIdish appearing bulbs should be here in the next day or two.

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[PARAGON]

PhilD,

I recently adjusted the Xenarc's up some more so that there were no hot or cold spots in the pattern directly in front of the vehicle.

I've driven about 350 miles all on 2 lanes and had no one blink there lights at me. I'm not sure about you but I think I had mine adjusted a little too low and now I am even more happier with the lights.

By the way, I had a blue 27w bulb in the DRL position and one has already blown as they were definitely cheap bulbs. I am going to find the best route for replacing the entire assembly. I think the lenses are about 4 3/4 in diameter, and there are some lights out there with a multi mount system that might allow for the lights to be installed properly.

[Tucson Beast]

Hi PhilD

I know you are a busy guy on the forum - is it still possible to get a drawing on how you wired your DRL to the high beam in your headlights.

Thanks

[buddy]

The green is the high beam wire.

[Tucson Beast]

PhilD

Great - Thanks for your help

[Gary C]

PhilD

Not really sure where to put the ballast, where did you put yours??????

thanks again for all your help

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[Tucson Beast]

Hi PhilD

You take great pictures - do you have one of the front grille lights/relay/wiring (as shown in your recent diagram) to the high beam of your head lights?

Thanks

[Tucson Beast]

Hi PhilD

Again thank you - I do have one more question (Can you tell I am knew at electrical stuff) - Where do you purchase the relay - is there a particular brand? Do auto stors carry the relay?

Again your picture is worth a thousand words

[Gary C]

PhilD

Again thanks, that was the only place I figured would work, thanks Dude,,,, http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Gary C]

Well Phil did the install yesterday, right now I see all the squirrels CLEARLY, going to adjust tonight, two problems: 1st is the low beams need to be on hi beam in the cab and visa versa for the high beams and 2nd what tool do you need to adjust the headlights???? torque or allen, I cant see in there.... Ok, three, they are not focused, how do you do that?

dumb@$$ Gary http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks for the help in Advance, Do you want my first Born???

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[Gary C]

Phil,

Thanks so much for the info, I did have the wires backwards, will be doing the mods like yours for the fine tuning adjustments,,,,,Also, I mounted the relays on the fuse box so I didn't have to screw with the wiring harness and lengthen the wires to attach to the battery,,,,,

take care and again tanks,http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif....

GC

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[Gary C]

I'm sorta unhappy with is the unlit area right in front of the truck, about 5 feet, the people I bought them from said a new inproved design will be coming out to have a better pattern. Maybe its time to run the DLR's for some more fill and confuse the other H2 owners, http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.........

I certainly see clearly now and have them aimed where a lower car will be showing me the whites of their eyes in the their mirror... oh well...

GC

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[Gary C]

Phil,

Dude, I blew up a the HID element in one of my sealed beams, I hope this isn't common place and I hope it's not because I am running 2 bridges as to their recommendations....we switched the ballast and didn't make a difference... will order 2 bulbs just to be safe.

Looks like a Red label day tomorrow, half my cars are in Texas...http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

GC

One more thing, the trick DRL blue bulbs gave up today also... whataday,,http://www.elcova.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

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[Gary C]

Here is the bad news for both of US and others, Parts for our style headlights will be shortly discontinued when the new and improved set will be released(July) better stock up or switch or whatever, the sealed headlight assembly will be here on Saturday for me,,,,,,EEEEEERRRRRRRRRRrrrrr

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