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CO Hummer 11-04-2006 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Are you attaching it via the existing mount holes? I had thought of removing the actual rail and welding a new one to the factory bracket/support arms in such a way that it would be flush with the under body. Taking in the weight and shape difference of course. Maybe a makeshift rubber 'gasket' or tubing between the rail and the body. I also like the idea tacking a thin sheet along the arms for added protection of hang ups and for additional support of the new rail.


I was originally going to cut off the existing rail mounts (the 5 u-shaped brackets) and attach them to this peice. However, they are not long enough for me reach the 2x6 and I'd need to weld in a filler. Instead, I'm going to make mounting brackets using some 2x2 1/4" square tubing with the some 1x1 1/8" supports. Who knows if it will work out. It's going to be a lot of angle cutting, but it surely won't bend like the current brackets/fins. I won't need the thin sheet for protection.



Hmmmm. With all the descenting opinions on the 3" extension, I'll probably back it off the 2.5". I'd like to keep it big enough to use a step too.

I don't really want to taper the fronts inward since I like the look the way it is. I've moved the front forward a little more that the stock rails, and I highly doubt I'd get wedged in between the rail and the tire. Gonna have to think about that one.

DennisAJC 11-04-2006 07:59 AM

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Ever thought of using some heavy gauge angle iron? that would look pretty decent hugging the bottom lip and it won't sacrifice your clearance.

CO Hummer 11-04-2006 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DennisAJC
Ever thought of using some heavy gauge angle iron? that would look pretty decent hugging the bottom lip and it won't sacrifice your clearance.


Where? You mean along the outside of the outer rails?

ssgharkness020147 11-04-2006 08:49 AM

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That would look sooooo sweet. There are a couple of company's that do this for the H1. Unlimited off road used to, but I do not think they are in business any longer. http://www.h123andmore.com/guards.html . These are the rockers I want for my truck. Notice the price tag??? Yeah, thats why I do not have them. :(



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Originally Posted by DennisAJC
Ever thought of using some heavy gauge angle iron? that would look pretty decent hugging the bottom lip and it won't sacrifice your clearance.


KenP 11-04-2006 03:47 PM

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CO, make sure you cover the ends with metal. It will add strength and keep junk out.

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Originally Posted by Alec W
LOL, keep this up you proven lying freak:D Makes me LMFAO and takes all of 5 mins to create AEs here that you can?t stop.

Talk about rent free! We own this KK.:giggling:

timgco 11-04-2006 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ssgharkness020147
That would look sooooo sweet. There are a couple of company's that do this for the H1. Unlimited off road used to, but I do not think they are in business any longer. http://www.h123andmore.com/guards.html . These are the rockers I want for my truck. Notice the price tag??? Yeah, thats why I do not have them. :(


Those do look well thought out. DAMN $ DAMN!

THey look to sttick ou around 3" or so also. I think that's fine. It will keep your door panels a little more away from rock...esp. when you are on a sideslope.

Cranky Steve 11-05-2006 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by timgco
Those do look well thought out. DAMN $ DAMN!

THey look to sttick ou around 3" or so also. I think that's fine. It will keep your door panels a little more away from rock...esp. when you are on a sideslope.


I concur, they are lined up nicely with the sidewall

PARAGON 11-05-2006 02:41 AM

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3 inches is, if anything, not enough. Mine are at 5" and are angle up at 10 degrees but are round tube. I am going to come back and plate the top for steps at some point.

Having them out there making wheeling nice since you feel like you can lean on them a little more with that extra width.

CO Hummer 11-06-2006 04:38 PM

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So I've made some progress....

Cut the brackets off the original rails:


Then, cut out some extensions using 2x2 1/4" box tubing:


Lined it up and tacked it all it. Hope to weld it solid tonight:

ROX 11-06-2006 08:06 PM

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I can't believe you really weld.:giggling:

IMO, the rails should stick out about as far as the outside of your tires, but farther than the stock rails. 3 inches looks about right. Taper the corners and have them come back toward the rear tire a little farther. (like 4 or 5 inches) I would use a little thicker tubing for more strength.
Remember that your pant leg will rub the dirt off everytime you get in and out of the door, too.

I'm not going for new rails, I'm just going to buy a paint gun. ;)

CO Hummer 11-06-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
Taper the corners and have them come back toward the rear tire a little farther. (like 4 or 5 inches) I would use a little thicker tubing for more strength.
Remember that your pant leg will rub the dirt off everytime you get in and out of the door, too.


Well.....It's a little late to bring to extend them farther back. Actually, I was considering shortening them a tad, but I'm gonna keep them as-is.

I've changed my mind about the taper. I will be tapering the corners. They rails stick out about 1/2" beyond the wheels. I don't want them to hang up, so they will be tapered in the front from about the middle of the 2x6.

PARAGON 11-06-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer
Well.....It's a little late to bring to extend them farther back. Actually, I was considering shortening them a tad, but I'm gonna keep them as-is.

I've changed my mind about the taper. I will be tapering the corners. They rails stick out about 1/2" beyond the wheels. I don't want them to hang up, so they will be tapered in the front from about the middle of the 2x6.


Yep, mine extend back 5 inches to match the contour and to get more protection back there. If you are on small sharp rocks and slide off, it can wedge between the rocker and the wheel.

CO Hummer 11-06-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
Yep, mine extend back 5 inches to match the contour and to get more protection back there. If you are on small sharp rocks and slide off, it can wedge between the rocker and the wheel.


I extended mine about 2.5" farther back than the stock rails.

PARAGON 11-07-2006 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer
I extended mine about 2.5" farther back than the stock rails.


Mine look goofy because they back into that area where it angles upward and starts into the rear wheelwell, but it offers extra protection.

CO Hummer 11-07-2006 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
Mine look goofy because they back into that area where it angles upward and starts into the rear wheelwell, but it offers extra protection.


Post some pics, man!

PARAGON 11-07-2006 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer
Post some pics, man!

No

h2co-pilot 11-07-2006 12:28 AM

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Yes.

PARAGON 11-07-2006 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Yes.

Nope, Alec will just photochop it with bigger than normal rockers

ROX 11-07-2006 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by PARAGON
Nope, Alec will just photochop it with bigger than normal knockers

:D

PARAGON 11-07-2006 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
:D

I already have those


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