<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
BTW everyone, there will be an all-night near full moon for camping Saturday night!
The coyotes will be howling!

Sean </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nice!

BTW, I'm no marketing mind but I wonder if this thread might get more action if you change the title to something like SoCal/SoNV/NoAZ yadda yadda? Could be Mojave Road means nothing to most people. I've been in Vegas a couple decades and only learned about the M.R. a couple months ago.

Odd, Mojave Road abbreviated is M.R. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


That IS odd! And get this....
You're strange is abbreviated YS!!

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:

That IS odd! And get this....
You're strange is abbreviated YS!!

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too funny!

(My wife retired this year from teaching. Before the world became so P.C., M.R. was the common term used to describe mentally retarded students.)

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:

That IS odd! And get this....
You're strange is abbreviated YS!!

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Too funny!

(My wife retired this year from teaching. Before the world became so P.C., M.R. was the common term used to describe mentally retarded students.) </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Oh , now I get it. ROFLMFAO. I had NO idea what that meant!

If you're not a history buff then this won't mean much, but I think it is VERY cool;

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
If you're not a history buff then this won't mean much, but I think it is VERY cool; </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is very cool!

The history of the trail is pretty amazing, eh? One of the last of the old west gunfights happened somewhere on the trail.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
If you're not a history buff then this won't mean much, but I think it is VERY cool; </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That is very cool!

The history of the trail is pretty amazing, eh? One of the last of the old west gunfights happened somewhere on the trail. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It happened at Government Holes in 1925 - the two guys emptied their 45's into each other and BOTH died. The cabin where it happened is gone, but the stone foundation remains and the windmill powered well that pumped the water they were fighting over is still there - and still working!!! The 1st time I was there I was by myself and it was like something out of a weird old movie - the desert in the middle of nowhere and this wind powered pump just squeeking away in its own slow rhythm!

Sean

BTW - the Traveller's Inn in Needles (760-326-4900) has rooms available for Friday night if anyone is interested. It might be a good idea since we plan to get out from US95 and the Mojave Road PROMPTLY at 8:30am! I can't vouch for the place - may be a dive - but it's close to the trailhead and the rates are reasonable!

Sean

More history..........

For those of you that are going, regular old tape works fine. I've used Blue Painter's tape and all was great.

Rod, I trimmed our shields about 1/2" short all the way around so I could get the tape to find a surface. It's easier to get those front doors done.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
For those of you that are going, regular old tape works fine. I've used Blue Painter's tape and all was great.

Rod, I trimmed our shields about 1/2" short all the way around so I could get the tape to find a surface. It's easier to get those front doors done. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I like to tuck it in at the leading edge of the door, but a trim around the other edges is a good idea!

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
For those of you that are going, regular old tape works fine. I've used Blue Painter's tape and all was great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought blue tape was an indicator of supercharged?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Rod, I trimmed our shields about 1/2" short all the way around so I could get the tape to find a surface. It's easier to get those front doors done. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I trimmed mine when I first got them and guess I'll just trim the bottom edges by a half and see how it fits. You modify yours yet to fit the flares?

Yo Sean, you got mail.

Nice photos you added here!

As far as a hotel goes, Laughlin is pretty close. Nine miles from 95 and then a few more miles south to M.R. Not sure if that's further or closer than Needles?

The Vegas gang will depart at 7 and should be at the intersection by 8:30, no problem. You have a favorite CB channel?

Oh. Yahoo maps just told me it's 2:06 to Laughlin.

Maybe the Vegas crew will meet on the very SE end of the Vegas valley!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
Yo Sean, you got mail.

Nice photos you added here!

As far as a hotel goes, Laughlin is pretty close. Nine miles from 95 and then a few more miles south to M.R. Not sure if that's further or closer than Needles?

The Vegas gang will depart at 7 and should be at the intersection by 8:30, no problem. You have a favorite CB channel? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do I have a favorite CB channel???? Try 007. And I just want to point out that obsession IS a healthy thing.....

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:

Do I have a favorite CB channel???? Try 007. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just had to ask ...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:

Do I have a favorite CB channel???? Try 007. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just had to ask ... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


No you didn't.


Sean

Rod, no I haven't trimmed them yet.

CB channel = day of the month.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Rod, no I haven't trimmed them yet.

CB channel = day of the month. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You have a working CB???? I would've thought CP had dunked it in coffee and thrown it out the window by now.

Sean

Just wanted to pop in and say hello since I confirmed I will be joining you all. Looking forward to meeting everyone. I plan to drive to and stay in needles fri night. Anybody else coming down I5 on fri to get there? I'm trying to get my brother to join me but prying him out of his Dodge Ram can be difficult. Doesn't make much sense to drive both.

I have a magelin GPS unit that has surprised me with the unpaved roads that are preloaded on it. I'm going to look into downloading more detailed info tonight but I should be good there.

About the only thing on the list that I don't already have is a CB. Will one of the simple hand held kind be OK or should I go all out and put in a permanent unit? Any recommendations for a brand/model?

Racer-X, glad to see you can make it!

Between Mr. Bond(age) and me we have the GPS stuff covered. No need to spend time and money on your end unless you want to because it's fun.

As for the CB, a handheld will probably do alright for this trip but you'll benefit long term from a permanent install. Many people here on the forum (self included) use the Cobra 75WXST. Info: http://www.cobra.com/index.php?page=...duct_id=5&id=1

You really don't need a CB, though. A set of FRS/GMRS walkie talkies can be had at any electronics store. I got mine at Best Buy for $75. Cobra-12-Mile, 22-Channel FRS/GMRS 2-Way Radios (Pair)-PR4700-2WX

Most people in the group will probably use the walkie-talkies. Half the money, no install, real easy.

If you do decide to get a portable CB, I have a magnetic mount external antenna you can borrow if you like. Let me know.

Thanks Rodster, for the price I think I'l get the permanent install. I found a good price on it the one you recommended from radio shack a block away from my office here. What do you guys do - run the twin external antennas?

Cringing at the thought of running another wire down the column after running wires for the OR lights.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:
Thanks Rodster, for the price I think I'l get the permanent install. I found a good price on it the one you recommended from radio shack a block away from my office here. What do you guys do - run the twin external antennas?

Cringing at the thought of running another wire down the column after running wires for the OR lights. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man, that Cobra Rodster mentioned IS popular! That's what I'm using too. Haven't got around to the permanent install yet, since my temp fix works so damn well! I got a screw-on cig lighter adapter and use that at the end of the Cobra power leads. I plug it into the rear of the center console, put the unit under the driver's seat, and run the antenna wire up through the rear grab handle behind the driver's side headrest and out the top to the rack mounted antenna. Close the door on it and your good to go! The mic cord then runs between the center console and the driver's seat so the mic can sit on the top of the console. It works as well as a permanent install - and I just unplug it all and take it out when I'm not using it.

The Cobra 75WXST is outstanding. If I took the time to properly ground the antenna and tune the damn thing it'd be even better!

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:
Thanks Rodster, for the price I think I'l get the permanent install. I found a good price on it the one you recommended from radio shack a block away from my office here. What do you guys do - run the twin external antennas? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good question. I just went through that last week. Here's the play by play: http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...1/m/7071006251

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Cringing at the thought of running another wire down the column after running wires for the OR lights. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Been there, cringed that! I went down the passenger's side, thinking the driver's side had already been punished enough. In hindsight, the driver's side would have been much easier. Either side is pretty much the same run from the roof through the A-pillar but under the dash is a whole different game. Look under the passenger side and you'll see what I mean!

BTW, Sean, just got our first confirm from the email I sent last night. He's in an H2 has a friend with a Rover that may join us, too.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
BTW, Sean, just got our first confirm from the email I sent last night. He's in an H2 has a friend with a Rover that may join us, too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!! We need to find some H3 folks! I've only got a couple of "possibles" on the H3 front.

Sean

Agreed. H3s would be good. I PMed an H3 guy here on the forum from Vegas.

Stopped and bought a cb on the way home tonight. I was going to go with the dual antennas until I saw the set they had were 48" long. So I ended up getting this.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2103576&cp

I'm told this will shoot through the metal chasis even better than through the glass. I should have no trouble finding a place to mount it.

Depending how much time I have I may do a temp set up like Sean did for now.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:
Stopped and bought a cb on the way home tonight. I was going to go with the dual antennas until I saw the set they had were 48" long. So I ended up getting this.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...tId=2103576&cp

I'm told this will shoot through the metal chasis even better than through the glass. I should have no trouble finding a place to mount it.

Depending how much time I have I may do a temp set up like Sean did for now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Our friend has dual 48"s mounted on spring mounts. When we follow him down an undulating trail, the phrase "Danger, Will Robinson...DANGER" keeps coming to mind. I kinda like the look. I went with a single 48 on a spring. Half the robot, so to speak.

Sean

A temp install may not get you the longest range possible but it'll be fine for the weekend. We'll all be near each other anyway.

The Cobra is a pretty cool gizmo, eh? I got mine at Radio Shack, too. Could have saved a few bucks buying it online but that meant waiting. Waiting is not good!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Waiting is not good! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


LOL, I can see you and I will get along good!

When I order from on line, I always get a tracking number and then check it every hour to see where my new toy is! Patience is NOT a virtue!

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
When I order from on line, I always get a tracking number and then check it every hour to see where my new toy is! Patience is NOT a virtue! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was doing the UPS-tracking-page-reload-thing today and sure enough, up rolled my new J-cans in the big brown truck.

I've learned that if you just buy somethig online every, oh, let's say day, then every day UPS shows up!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
When I order from on line, I always get a tracking number and then check it every hour to see where my new toy is! Patience is NOT a virtue! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was doing the UPS-tracking-page-reload-thing today and sure enough, up rolled my new J-cans in the big brown truck.

I've learned that if you just buy somethig online every, oh, let's say day, then every day UPS shows up! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

ROFLMFAO We ARE going to get along. BTW - Gobi cans?

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:

BTW - Gobi cans? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope. These. I wanted metal cans this time.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:

BTW - Gobi cans? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nope. These. I wanted metal cans this time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


OUTSTANDING! Except for the Communist red color.....

Being so old fashioned that I still send text e-mails, I was hesitant about the plastic ones. Where and how will you mount them? I would prefer steel, but was a little worried about the powder coat on my rack with metal cans...?

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would prefer steel, but was a little worried about the powder coat on my rack with metal cans...? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd be worried about that also. How about glueing rubber mat to one side of the can? That would help with slippage also.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I would prefer steel, but was a little worried about the powder coat on my rack with metal cans...? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd be worried about that also. How about glueing rubber mat to one side of the can? That would help with slippage also. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well there's a fine idea.

Sean

UPDATE!!!
HMR Magazine is trying to arrange a reporter/photographer to join us!

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
Just remembered: I read once that groups of more than 7 vehicles require a pass from NPS. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Okay. I hate paying money to the government so they will tell me it's okay to use OUR land while they try to take the pleasure away from us at every turn...BUT

I submitted the form and paid the fee. Looks like we will have way in excess of the 7 vehicle limit.

BTW - they ask the STRANGEST question on the form. "Is this an exercise of First Amendment Rights?" WTF??? I have a call in to them to see how in the hell one is supposed to answer that! LOL Just about everything every American does every day would qualify as a yes!

Odd.

Sean

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Racer-X:

How about glueing rubber mat to one side of the can? That would help with slippage also. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes indeed, brilliant minds think alike.

Home Depot and Lowes both carry thick rubber floor mats with drain holes in them. They're 3x3 and you can cut them into 1x1 squares. Attach to rack with plastic wire ties and you have a cushioned ride for anything metal. A ratchet strap holds the cans down.

That all now said, I also bought another, non-traditional fuel container. It's going to take some modifying to make it work but if it does, it'll be schweeet.

I have four plastic cans to keep gas in around the house. No stinkin' way would I carry those on my truck. Some plastic ones are good but mine ain't those. El Cheapos from HD.

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Good show on the permit. How much of your money did they charge for the pleasure of driving on our land?