Alright, taking the bracelet off.

People that have problems with Hummers are just falling into basic categories of behavior from our bi-pedal ancestors. Feeling jealous rage against the class orders that Hummers represent- power, wisdom, wealth and sexual attraction. Hence the Alpha concept, they are mere bitter primates who feel a sense of excitment for giving an anonymous jab to the dominant entities. For in another direct form of communication would cower as they have since the behavior was established.

I think it is entertaining to take a stab at the pecking order in this situation. Hence my wookie nookie, fag and eco-nazi remarks . Everyone craves to be heard and recognized regardless of the content that will do it. These poor individuals follow and speak without true personal thought just for this recognition. The best thing to do would be not to give the individual a mental treat that rewards craving, but I can't help but support my alpha hummer monkeys, plus I have so many funny pictures on file(well I think they are funny ). This poor young man had an outright demand for recogniion- posting on every thread possible. I suspect sexual dysfuntion or social deprevation.

It looks like we have pecked him back to pornographic websites of homosexual orientation, but he may be back...one of these aforementioned individuals will

TAZ, that was almost as long as one of your posts

Sorry, it wasn't a chubbie promoter but there is nothing sexy about a Kia or little boys with nothing to do.

I suspect sexual deprivation and social dysfunction.

Well there you have it Exploding Dick....

EP, don't feel too disheartened by all these posts. Not everyone can run with the big dogs. It's not your fault that you are deathly afraid of driving the speed limit or large machines. Cleary, your parents didn't make you feel very safe growing up. I can even understand you creating your fantasy:

"I can only afford this cheap P.O.S. import. I know, I'll make it seem noble. I'll pretend I am society's protector."

Fortunately, you are young enough, that the possibility for recovery exists. See if you can avail yourself of Psych/Social services on your campus.

Look, there is no great shame in lacking affluence. Of course, it is no great honor either. Why not forget the fantasies? Try socializing a little more. Maybe even ask a girl out. Stop playing in the street. Those machines ARE big and scary. And don’t worry about Taz’s daugter kicking your ass. She barely has time for him.

BAHZING!

I want to tell him to deliver a pizza, but he's not old enough.

BAHZING! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dennis is this a term from the Mackenize brothers?

Actually from this dude.

True Co-pilot but what You lack in length You more than make for in clarity. We appreciate Your defense of the Alpha Hummer Monkeys.
Thanks C0-pilot We owe You,
TAZ

He's a bit busy right now with his after-school job....

http://load.pquinn.com/binaries/fries/

Stacy

I only give EP a rating of a 3. It's one thing that he thinks he knows everything. But he loses points because he keeps opening his mouth making a bigger ass out of himself.

EP shall now be known as Exploding Sphincter. Much more appropriate.

Please feel free to provide facts as to the safety of the Kia. its standard for every car maker to do the testing and make the required "minimums" in safety. its also a small matter of Physics. if I run over your pile of **** with my 6500lb truck its makes a loud scraping noise as you pass under the skidplates, It may also get some air and quite possiblly break a tierod end on my landing...Oh well.
I have done crash testing in the big 3 for the last ten years...I think you need to spend some quality time reading FACTS, not going to some web site that gives lip service to kids teaching them the rights and wrongs from some smoked out hippys point of veiw. I have done every dirty job there is, and I have been to school and put up with little pukes who had every whim catered to by their parents...just makes me sick!

I bet when you get out of school and get a job its going to change your ponit of veiw.
Just do me one favor...Get Job "without" a Family memebers help, then come back here and see if you have the same veiw.

OK...I have some problems with your logic. First off, if you are relying on a Car (or possesion of any kind) to be a "Status Symbol" you have some serious self confidence issues. What kind of person needs to buy a Car to show that they are the "Alpha" of the bunch? What kind of elementary school crap is that?

Also...the whole "if they act like they dont like it they must just be jealous" line has always bugged the **** out of me. I dont like H2's. I think they are ugly...and not nearly as capable as you all try to make them seem. I would never own one. Even if I won the Lotto I would never own one...I just dont like them. Does that make me Jealous??? Hardly.

Not to mention the whole anonymous jab at "dominant entities" comment. I talk about how ugly the H2 is to the owner's faces. It is my OPINION and I am not afraid to share my opinion...and if the owner gets all butt hurt about it, its their problem...not mine.

Dont get me wrong, I enjoy hanging out with pretty much all the H2 owners that I have met. Most of them are good people. Its just that their taste in cars sucks.

Well aren't we proud of ourselves. And my mother would say you're just plain discourteous. And I say those that go around purposely insulting people over something they're probably very proud of have a personal/social problem. See a shrink fella.

Shut up!, you cowering primate, your mouth is writing checks your @ss can't cash!!

--and you smell like poop!!!

You'll have to excuse Shaggy. He's been given a free pass for so long, since he's sort of our poster child for hippie birth control, that now he thinks he can pipe up without any consequences.
Listen up coat hanger boy, be nice to the people that will most likely have to feed your mongrel dog ass when we're in Moab. ; )

LasVegas...I never said that I go door to door insulting H2 owners. I merely stated that I am not scared to express my honest opinion of the H2 just because the owner is close by as co-pilot said. But you are probably right about the personal/social problems...but that is completely unrelated to the discussion at hand.

h2co-pilot...bring it on. I havent had a good ass kicking in a long time. Oh, and sorry about the smell. I am trying to conserve water by not bathing.

WTF are you talking about? I will be feeding myself thank you very much.

And unlike you Shag, if you're comfortable shoe horning yourself into a little toy ****stick, far be it from me to criticize either you or your car.

A car- in this case is twat the cowering knuckle dragger is basing it's opinion on. A car is also a well known item to judge one's success in our capitalistic culture. Sure you could base ones stature on good deeds and personality traits, however, in the case of trolls the assumption is based purely on said status symbol. I drive a minivan, obviously I don't care. It is sooo not elementary you poopwad.

The "if they don't like it they are jealous" was not in my post it twas "bitter", bitterness about many unknown factors. This ugliness they harbour deep inside that makes them want to lash out their Shaggy arm and try to grab snacks of recognition and martyrdom.

LasVegas...Is it bad that I had to look up shoehorning online to know what the hell you were talking about?

For what its worth, most (if not all) of the members of this site who have met me in person seem to like me despite what I say about the H2 (although they might deny it after I called them out like that), so I must not be as much of a little prick as you might like to think.

Never called you a little prick.....just discourteous and in need of some manners.

So my dislike for H2's means I must be bitter towards the owners for some reason? If thay was the case why would I be about to spend a chunck of my Vacation time hanging out with H2 owners? I dont base any of my opinions of people on what they drive, how try dress, or any other superficial crap like that. Exploding People might...but not all H2 haters do.

LasVegas...You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. If you knew some of the conversations I have had with H2 owners you would know that my bashing the H2 is not me being discourteous, or needing some manners...but just part of everyday conversations. It is more of a back and forth thing rather than just me insulting them while they sit back innocently. Get off your high horse and join the real world.

I was referring to trolls in my post. I base a lot of theories on constant concepts of human behavior. Just because you don't like it does not mean you are in that category. I think it is cool that you state your opinion, as do I. I remark on the good and the bad aspects of the Hummer. I hate the look of the El Camino, however I don't go on a forum just to tell someone that. I don't base my opinions on superficial things either, these individuals that come on this forum starting trouble do, therefore, an underlying cause is causing bitterness.

Shaggy,

Please forgive my ignorance. Despite owning an H2 since '03, I am newer to this site than you. What has me perplexed is this: Why would someone who has such disdain for this vehicle come to Moab to be surrounded by them. Why would someone like that hang around an H2 forum making over a thousand posts. It's like saying you hate Asians and moving to China. For me, it seems to be a fascinating pathology. Perhaps I am missing some crucial piece of the puzzle. Please enlighten me. See you in Moab.

Shag. I know you're young, but learn to choose your words carefully if you expect to get anywhere in this world. You didn't limit your propensity to bash H2 owners to the people in this forum. If you had, it would have made a difference. So let's call off these back-and-forth posts. It isn't going anywhere.

Tower...I was told to join by Alec W, and Adam in CO after I met up with them for my 1st 4-wheeling trip 2 years ago (met them through another forum, and they suggested I join this one). I survived the initial newbie/troll thrashing so I decided to stick around. I guess you can say I am a glutten for punishment. That, and like I said earlier...I get along with the people, just not the vehicle, so why not stick around? Also, its fun to show up a bunch of H2's in my little s10.

LasVegas...if I didnt know what shoehorning meant...what would the odds be that I would know what propersity means (I looked it up, and know what it means now...but that is besides the point)? You need to dumb it down a little for me. I know you think I say certain things because I am "young"...but that isnt the reason at all. Believe it or not I am mature (and financially secure) beyond my years. Not H2 secure...but still doing pretty good. It is just more fun to be a pain in the ass.

Okay

And see Shag...after debating with an old f%$ker like me you learned two new words. That's worth everything!

Hi Shag
How is everything? I have not talked to You in a while. I mentioned yesterday all My checkups have been going the right direction but, still no trip this time. Moab will be there next year. Hopefully will get to see You then. Watch out for Yourself out there in the desert. Your S-10 maybe the only rig that makes it out. You know You could end up being the one that saves the day and pulls everybodies fat out of the fire. So, go easy on everybody there going to need You. Oh did You really collect up a whole truck load of wood to burn? I remember You mentioning that and had planned on asking if it was for real. If so You are a good Man.
TAZ

Taz...Its good to hear that your checkups are going well. Moab will be there next year, but it will also be there in the fall if you are up for it by then. It probably wont be as big as the spring trip, but I am guessing there will still be a trip. And yes...I did fill the bed of my truck up with wood (with Timgco's help). It is scrap 2x4's and stuff like that, but it still burns just the same. It has to be a couple of hundred pounds worth I would think...cause its only about 4" from the top of my bed, and it has my truck squatting pretty good. I bet I am getting H2 gas mileage out of my truck right now.

With that load Buddy i can promise H2 mileage. I'm planning on being ready for fall trip. I just do not think I could wait till next year even if i had to rent something and go during the summer. All the pics that people have sent and the video's to watch boy it looks great. I have been promised a few email pics while You guys are there and hopefully a well documented video diary. That is if Co-pilot does the naration, Man She has a way with words. Ken is one lucky Dude. He does not even have to be in the same room with Her and She can melt His butter. He tells Me He takes good care of Her. All I can say is He better or there could be trouble.
Later Shag
TAZ

AWWWWWW!! TAZ, your'e so sweet to me

As for you Shag, I didn't know you were a resident troll, I thought you were kidding and bored until my last post. If you had read my other ones, you would have seen one of my post saying the H2 is a sweetass minivan ( but in good fun not bitterness). I can appreciate your opinion, however the personal insult regarding my "serious self confidence issues" ona post meant for a temporary troll was uncalled for and just a little superficial and unkind, I would never intentionally hurt or insult anyone like that, in fact I stood up for you in the accident forum. So that being said, next time your paranoia bites you on the @ss when you read one of my posts you can email me:

h2copilot@gfy.noob

For some reason that is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. I almost choked on my pop.

What personal insult? My self confindence comment was meant as a broad statement more so than a personal attack. If you took it as a personal attack than I am sorry, it was not meant that way. I stand by my statement, but it wasnt directed directly at you. Just at anyone who buys a car to prove they are the alpha of the group.

BTW...why would you defend me? You should have been told how pointless that was. I flip-flop more than John Kerry. Supporting me one time just makes you an easier target the next.

I just defended your name to the Shabby Shaggy imposter. I was just hurt and insulted because I thought your post was directed at me.

Plus, you made all nice with Jonahs and Tower and didn't respond to my post, I'm a girl - I need attention.

Whoa!! You wish you could flip-flop 10% as much as John Kerry.

Once you all meet Shaggy, you'll look at this post and LYAO! When you meet him though, make sure he is facing you. if he is standing sideways, you'll never see him.
Shaggy really is a genuine guy; he just has smaller arms than a snake!

And for the record, I'm the one that cut all the wood.

Co-pilot You are very welcome and most deserving. I'm not as dumb as I let people believe I am. I know Who has the most potential here to be My very best allie. Behind every great man is an even Greater Woman. So Ken I see the secret of Your success.
Thanks Co-pilot and tell that puppet of Yours I said HI You lucky Duck.
TAZ