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Av1ator 04-03-2007 07:37 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
No V8 for me....yet...I was sucker enough to buy one of the first H3's..head problems and all...Nope, no more first year ANYTHING for me....lets see..how many heads have they put on this thing now???

usetosellhummer 04-03-2007 08:23 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
nope

f5fstop 04-03-2007 10:04 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck BB62
I've been told (and F5 cleverly tried to divert us from the truth, he should either play poker or write novels) that it WILL be an Adventure. At the least it will have the 4:1 tcase, 33s, and a rear locker, call it what you want.

Why would they bother upgrading the front axle if it's going to be an onroad bling model.... eh????? The axle they have now wouldn't break if it were a street mochine.

So, the plot thickens. I for one, particularly after the last round, find F5 to have a devious, confounding mischievious streak in him that's only satiated by pulling our chains. Are we having fun yet?:D


On the V8, in the early posts, I never said yes or no; I could not say so if you call that divertion, cool. Most who know me well, will agree that I am mischievious and devious, however, please read the following. There is some confusion over my what is an adventure series and what is an off-road suspension package on a lux model.:jump:
As for the adventure series, let me explain what I was trying to say, so you might understand a bit better.
Hummer currently sells four different basic packages (not counting additional bling, sunroofs, radios, etc.)
1. Base H3
2. Adventure series, which is a base H3 with the additional rear locker, 4:1 t/case, larger tires and stiffer shocks
3. Luxury package (leather, different radio, power seats, etc.) With a Luxury package, you can purchase an off-road suspension package which give you what the adventure model gives you (rear locker, 4:1 diff, tires, etc.)
4. H3x (bling model)
What I said earlier was, "I believe, but again not sure (I'm not in marketing, advertising or finance), that there will be no adventure series with a V8." I did not say you could not obtain the off-road suspension package in an Alpha, in fact the ad states you can.
However, I believe whether or not you get the off-road package, you will always get the cast iron front axle with the Alpha (V8 model).

AGAIN TO ALL, I SAY "NOT SURE." It is just a feeling I have and the knowledge how GM sometimes prices options and packages. In addition, I believe it will be a BIG MISTAKE, if GM does NOT produce an adventure model with the V8 option.

(Not responsible for any typos of omissions, since I have to get....)

HummBebe 04-03-2007 10:12 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
What I said earlier was, "I believe, but again not sure (I'm not in marketing, advertising or finance), that there will be no adventure series with a V8." I did not say you could not obtain the off-road suspension package in an Alpha, in fact the ad states you can.
However, I believe whether or not you get the off-road package, you will always get the cast iron front axle with the Alpha (V8 model).




phew :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:

SR1355 04-03-2007 10:51 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
I for one do not plan on getting a V8 right away, i think I'll wait a couple of year till 08 lease are expiring... find me a nice blinged out lease vehicle that I know has never seen anything worst than a pot hole. Rip all the bling off and add the goodies.

XM DUDE 04-03-2007 10:51 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
No V8 for me....yet...I was sucker enough to buy one of the first H3's..head problems and all...Nope, no more first year ANYTHING for me....lets see..how many heads have they put on this thing now???





I think the 5.3 V8 will prove to be more reliable and is the engine they should have put in the H3 to begin with.

wpage 04-03-2007 11:42 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Not trading mine till they have the overdrive. Then getting another I5 with the OD feature. The I5 works for me! :beerchug:

Bully13 04-03-2007 11:43 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
My guess is that The V8 will come fully loaded with leather and the works for the first year. Then we will probably see more basic models come out. So my guess is that we won't see an adventure with cloth until 2009. I really love my 2006 (Lux with offroad pkg). I see no reason to rush and get the V8. However it would have been a strong consideration if it had been available when I first purchased my 3.

NEOCON1 04-03-2007 11:50 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SR1355
I for one do not plan on getting a V8 right away, i think I'll wait a couple of year till 08 lease are expiring... find me a nice blinged out lease vehicle that I know has never seen anything worst than a pot hole. Rip all the bling off and add the goodies.



thats a great idea :D

Huck BB62 04-04-2007 03:47 AM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
phew :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana: :dancingbanana:


Phew! is right! He skeered me!

lotus4s 04-04-2007 04:11 AM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
More than likely I will order an Alpha as soon as they are available. The I-5 is my only major beef with the H3. I like the H2 but it's just too damn big for what I need although I almost bought the 06 SUT my buddy is selling now http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=25904 but it won't fit in my garage.....:(

deserth3 04-04-2007 08:27 AM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
I think I'll keep my 06 for awhile. I'm pretty happy with it.

MajorGeek 04-04-2007 01:38 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
I remain confused. I dropped mine because of the I-5, then it takes GM years to figure out how to drop a V8 in it when the perfectly capable 6, buth V and I are available. Anyone owning a trailblazer knows the i6 is a good motor. Dont know if they make the V6 but thats been a rock solid engine for a long time. Confused why they did not make both available. I will have to see it, I liked my H3, but it was a tad cramped, its hard to imagine trading out my H2 and going back to an H3 again, though the smaller size has abvious multiple advantages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by deserth3
I think I'll keep my 06 for awhile. I'm pretty happy with it.


XM DUDE 04-04-2007 05:37 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
GM didn't want to use the I6 because it would hurt the approach angles as the vehicle would be too long. I wonder if V8 is shorter in length than the I6 and why didn't they off a V8 to begin with?

evldave 04-04-2007 06:56 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by XM DUDE
GM didn't want to use the I6 because it would hurt the approach angles as the vehicle would be too long. I wonder if V8 is shorter in length than the I6 and why didn't they off a V8 to begin with?


Hmmm, 6 cylinders in a line vs 4 cylinders in a line. I wonder...hmmm... it might be longer...use the search feature from a couple years ago, there were lots of discussions about why the V8 wasn't selected to start (a lot of time-to market, need for changes to the motor to get it to fit in the space, etc).:twak:

FJD 04-04-2007 09:00 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Yup !!....:D

f5fstop 04-04-2007 10:31 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wpage
Not trading mine till they have the overdrive. Then getting another I5 with the OD feature. The I5 works for me! :beerchug:


Been discussed before, the 4L605E is an overdrive transmission.
4th Gear Ratio is 0.696:1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bully13
My guess is that The V8 will come fully loaded with leather and the works for the first year. Then we will probably see more basic models come out. So my guess is that we won't see an adventure with cloth until 2009. I really love my 2006 (Lux with offroad pkg). I see no reason to rush and get the V8. However it would have been a strong consideration if it had been available when I first purchased my 3.

Good point and may be true.

Quote:

Originally Posted by evldave
Hmmm, 6 cylinders in a line vs 4 cylinders in a line. I wonder...hmmm... it might be longer...use the search feature from a couple years ago, there were lots of discussions about why the V8 wasn't selected to start (a lot of time-to market, need for changes to the motor to get it to fit in the space, etc).

Basically supply of V8, and the front end would have been longer, thus cutting down on some entrance angle. However, the Alpha required changes to the dash panel and other underhood areas, but no basic changes to the engine; other than intake, and that is very seldom the same from one vehicle to another.

evldave 04-04-2007 11:55 PM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by f5fstop
Basically supply of V8, and the front end would have been longer, thus cutting down on some entrance angle. However, the Alpha required changes to the dash panel and other underhood areas, but no basic changes to the engine; other than intake, and that is very seldom the same from one vehicle to another.


I remember the discussion about the intake being too high? It was a long time ago and I was probably drunk...

ETD 04-05-2007 01:17 AM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
Alpha = Chrome + leather = Mall + Low Riders!!:lame:

I guess I will keep the '06 and hope that someone will come out with a real off-road lift for it.

MountainBlue 04-05-2007 04:27 AM

Re: How many will be trading in their 5 cylinder H3's for an Alpha?
 
I'll definitly trade up once the options and pakages are all worked out. The nasty freeway hills around here are killing the mpg anyways. Plus I get GMID, so I'll do what I did last time, just wait for the 0% financing and then the hit isn't nearly as bad. H3 V8 + GMID + 0% = :D :D :D


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