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![]() slap da biaaaaooooooooooootcccccccccchh ! :twak: :jump: |
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I had the same reaction. :giggling:
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LOL:jump:
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Frenzy, where did you git that gun? Is that a 12 guage?:D |
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How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's. |
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traded da gun fo me wifey at the pawn shop ! :shhh: |
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most nubees come here on their first post and say" hi, i'm new to the forum, i own or wana own a H-3 & i hope i learn a lot" u come in and start talking BS WITHOUT REFERENCE MATERIAL... care to start again |
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This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference. http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html |
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THIS report by Pacific Institute Hummer versus Prius: “Dust to Dust” Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science ![]() by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007 The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.’s 2007 “Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal” caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report’s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, “Dust to Dust” has already distorted the public debate. Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me... 1. do you own a HUMMER 2. if you do , what model 3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the past, what model was it 4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you drive now and WHO paid for it. 5. what organization do you work for 6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM 7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and reference material OH YEAH ! NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS |
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Hey I have a pic just like that :jump: Its my brother in laws:twak: |
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LOL...you're a riot:twak: :jump: |
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Looks gay:lame: |
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The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results and so the study is flawed from the get go. And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), have the same limited MPG of 13, and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year. Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same. |
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BY WHO...REFERENCES...ANYWER QUESTIONS PLEASE |
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I bet your a vegen and work for greenpeace... |
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Wowza. I'm gone two days and this is what happens? :lame: :giggling: Oh, dear. Well first zoe, way to be a hippie. -One who has obviously tired of the Prius forum. I think its great that you are so avidly protecting our earth, and saving all us Hummer enthusiasts from ourselves! I mean, if you wouldn't do it, who would, right? By the way, I had no idea about what the 'Dust to Dust' paper was. (But thanks for bringing it up and fueling the fire!) I was actually referring to the H2 being more 'green' than your precious Prius. There are multiple articles online, as well as multiple topics in this forum with the evidence supporting my view. I don't really like arguing with someone in posts, and I know you're trying to come across as a really intelligent person. -But zoe, honestly, if you come to a HUMMER FORUM trying to badmouth HUMMERS and promote a small gas/electric vehicle made by a Japanese auto company, that's just dumb. By the way, welcome to the forum! :OWNED: |
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That huge zinc mine in Canada where Toyota gets their material for the batteries sure is a nice thing for the environment. Those batteries sure are easy to dispose of, too.
Humm, come to think of it, Toyota's plastic sure is good for the landfills too. I wonder how long all that garbage sits before decomposing since it can't be recycled. Just curious Zoe, how much energy was used developing the new technology for the batteries and plastics in the Prius? Heck, how much energy is used making those products so they can sit in landfills for decades to come? I was also curious what it costs to ship those exotic materials back and forth across the globe to build the Prius. Virtually the entire H2 can be recycled. Oh yeah, what's the usable life expantancy of the Prius? I don't mean how long it's plastics will be in the landfills, but what's the true life expectancy? Isn't it half the H2's? Wow. I think I'd rather get the gas Honda Civic that's better for the environment. I guess the Prius is like that enviro concert going on right now around the world. It doesn't mater what it costs the environment to put the show on, as long as they appear to be doing some good it's ok. |
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Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else. |
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