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It has taken the BIG 6 already!, will Knock a bison off it's hooves, and has more than enough power to Hit a Bear in the Head and travel completely through it! @ 30 Yds! :eek: The 8" barrel is suppose to be a True 200 Yd Hunter!..I Opted for the Compact 4" Self defense model! :D

Another Big Z Custom in the Makin!..Laser Grip, NiteSights, and Some Special, Loads!..Snake Dens!...I need to Find Snake DEN!...j/k

I'm a goin to Alaska! Fishing! And well armed! ;)

Reality Check!...talking about it is one thing, having to do is another!

Absolutely! defend yourself if you have to! just Bear in mind a few things (intended)....1.) PAPER WORK! if you have to shoot one, (they will know if it self defense!) there will be PLENTY OF IT!......2.) 25 Yards of Mean Bear charging, PLUG UM! You CAN'T out Run!---Last resort option is to shoot, be sure you have to!....VERY Doubtfull!....Making a bunch of noise is best, chucking rock, or cracking one into a tree will 99% of the time send a bear running!

Know the Difference between Griz And Black Bear??



Griz Will Just KILL YA! A Black Bear Likes to Shread and eat a little! ;)

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Compare some rounds

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compare 2

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Forgot the Venerable 22 And 22Mag! :D

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is that the .500 next to the .223? sheesh

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lol Yep All 440Gr! Waaa Haa!

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Glock all the way. I have a M-17 that is kept under the bed.;)

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Won't have to much for a while. The gun comes with 2 compensators.. one for Hollow Points...One for the rest.

Hear say part--from an owner/shooter/reloader :D --If you've shot 44 mag loads, the barrel raises and pulls to the left, (righty) TRUE!

The 500 has No Pull, and a rise of 6" +/-! Impressive! Getting 3" groups @ 30Yrds, (still working with loads) we'll see! And reloading is about $0.18 a round Vs. $1.10 Plus X Box of 20

More later!

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so, can you feel the muzzle blast:eek: :D

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Guns kill people. This is ridiculous.

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I know.... cool, isn't it.

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I should kill you for your smart alec remarks. :mad:

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Very cool :cool:

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GUNS Don't Kill People! :rolleyes: PEOPLE Kill People!

Saying Guns Kill People Is Like Saying Pencils are Responsible for Bad Spelling! :rolleyes:

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Get yourself a couple Marine "Compressed Air" Horns--Big Can--Very loud--Very annoying!..dogs are good--long leash, and barkers. Probably already know, bears get into habits! easy pickings--trash cans=Bear lunch boxs! Hey Bo Boo!, Coolers, Tents, Pic-a-nic baskets.....Anyway, (should make it a joint effort with others around there!) you can make them LEAVE AND NOT Want To COME BACK!-- With a little training :D . The Jist of it.. SCARE the $hit out of them! :) , Chase As Far As Possible, Blasting the Horns, Flashing Lights, Dogs Barking, Just give them a good Hazing @ ANY/EVERY event...It will only take a few times!...Pm me if you need to know any more, or How.

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haha! you edited that post because you had a spelling error, didn't you.

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Like the air horn idea :)

Had a yellow lab, two years ago at night at the cabin while we were out letting him take care of business, he hunkered down and gave out one of those primal gutteral growls - made the hair stand up on my neck. That was the summer the five bears were around and before we knew they were around.

He was the opposite of a real lab. Didn't like water and started growling at the neighbors - acted more like he was a german shepard guard dog.
Had to have the vet find him a home way out in the country.

Have a beagle now, better for the son and she has that beagle bark/baying sound :)

Will add the air horn to the bear spray arsenal.

But still liking the S&W 500 :D

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It's the KeyBoards Fault! :eek: :D Bad Keyboard!

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You're the first other person I know of with an M-17. I bought mine barely-used. I love the concept of the gun, but I have significant jamming/extraction issues when I shoot it. I don't know if it is a design flaw or something else. Do you have any problems like that?

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Ummm..... isn't that just a standard G17

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http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ga_handguns/grab_071405/

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/community/inthefield/fieldguides/guidebooks-story-1.jsp;jsessionid=BYUBFIYTQXRTTTQSNOHCCO4OCJVZCIWE? hierarchyId=10201&contentId=vanzwoll_sw500&title=S %26W's+Hot+New+.500+Magnum&_requestid=1848&_reques tid=20178

http://www.hunting-fishing-gear.com/...splay/474.html

http://www.john-ross.net/s&wsuccess.htm

This will get ya to the store!, If You like the BIG Bore! :D

Just another shooters statement!

Ballistic Supply http://www.ballisticsupply.net/ makes high quality ammo at a fair price. They specialize in 500 S&W. They have at least 8 different loads for it. They range from a 350gr plated, FN bullet @ 800fps, they call their "defense load" to their 700gr hard cast @ 1200fps. The defense load was developed at the request of several indoor range owners who sold 500s in their shop and wanted customers to be able to shoot them without knocking down the walls of their range. Ballistic Supply will also load the defense load with 370gr and 440gr, at your request. The 350gr version allowed me to actually fire my 4" 500 S&W double action and hit tin cans, reliably, at 25 yards. If I sound like a commercial for them, it's because they worked to get some ammo to me, at short notice, when I left for Alaska last fall. Here's a couple of pictures of their big boys. The top pic is their 700gr and the bottom is the 535gr.

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On second thought, I assume that's what he is referring to. When I first saw "M-17," I thought he was referring to a 2nd gun - one of these:

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The more I read about this Hand Cannon, the more I see it has in common with the H2!! :cool:

It went from design to production is a year

Setting the STOCK Bar, Very High!-- LIKE NOTHING ELSE! :D , Dusting The competition!

IT'S To BIG!....IT'S To MUCH!...IT COSTS TO MUCH TO FILL! (Bullet Guzzler!)...Ridiculed because, NOT EVERYONE CAN HAVE OR HANDLE.. THE..BIG!..METAL! :D

You shouldn't be allowed to Have Or Buy That Thing, because you will never use it for it's INTENDED PURPOSE!

Huffington has another agenda! Claiming Waste! Waste!...Their gonna use up all the Lead! That's just Excessive! They use Slave MINORS, (working under the worst possible conditions!) to mine the LEAD, and fill the Cylinders of those BIG BULLET GUZZLERS!...And send the proceeds to terror groups! :eek: BIG BRUTES!

It's Just NOT RIGHT!---That You Spend YOUR Money! ---And Have THINGS!-- That NOT EVERYONE ELSE CAN!....

It's Made In The USA!

Raving Experts!---ON PLATFORMS!--Ridiculing--Generating Product Hate--REVIEWING!--SPECULATING--Eagerly waiting To Embelishing ANY negitive!------?..With Absolutly ZERO!--HANDS ON EXPERIENCE!---Trying To Control the Weak!...and Causing $hit!

I'd Almost nominate the 500, as the Official Hummer Handgun! Both Have a LOT in common--IMHO! ;)



Any Spelling Errors Are the FAULT Of The KeyBoard!--I Bear No Responsibility........

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As SOON as My Hand Heals UP! :eek: I'm field testing!----Rock Chucks---Sage Rats---Bugs Bunny (Gallon jug size, and better!)--Kill Da Wabit!--jackalope-- then, into the Canyon of Lions!---Might get one to come out and play! J/K. (yes taking shotguns and friends when vermit hunting...Well, shotgun anyway!)----Since I need to Harvest some trees--Can't think of a better time to test--What size tree it will go through!--What size I can Fell with 5 rounds----Boulder Check (in case I need to do a little Trail Trimming! Or/and more likely, Destroy such offending Carnage Causing Protrusion :rolleyes: )....3" concrete pads stacked--3,6,9"?....Watermellons.... Waaa Ha!:D Just hope the N double don't make a fuss!....Must find NOW, and Just hit me!..BIG!!--- Cinder Boulders!-----F'N A!!



Naaaa! I don't like the BIG BORES, and BOOMS!--But, Here's The 1" Bore!!---favorite loads--1/2 rolls! any denomination! W/Quarters Being the Bad BOYS of the bunch! Just Luv them Coin Machines!---Give Um Hell George!---Here Comes some ROCK SALT!:D ----Fourth Of July IS A BLAST!!....6 Regulars, Only 3 BIG BORES!--But Still, BIG BOOMS! Haaaa Haaa Haa Ha!

On the SERIOUS side Now, This stuff is for Experienced shooters, and I sure don't recommend ANYONE jump into the BIG bores, unless a far amount of 44Mag time is in your arms! Would hate to hear of Broken Thumbs, Wrists, arms, faces,.........Or Anything Else! :eek: Safety First!

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I ended up getting one of these tonight. A .45 ACP XD made by Springfield Armory.

Attachment 25928


I got one of these since I already have a .357 and a .44 both S&W.

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That is definitely a stopper.

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Nice piece!...Ya get the 4 or 5 inch?:cool:

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Pleaze! Let this thread DIE! before my husband sees it and has to buy yet another weapon of mass construction!:mad:

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I got the 4 inch. :D

Husband needs another weapon, please show thread to him thanks :D :D :D

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Have Trent Give me a call! You can count on me!-- to help talk him out of a BIG Magnum! :D

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You are Ted Nugent aren't you - go on admit it.:eek:

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roflmao!, Now that's funny! I Don't care who ya are! :D Lord Forgive Her and Be with the Pigmies in......! :-)

Never Had that Problem! Wife in Very concerned when it comes to My Weapons, and Safety! And Never Fails to remind ME! With.......Now, Damn-it! YOU BE CAREFUL WITH THAT THING!! :D

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Rox! It was almost safe! Trent!...You are veeerrryyy sleepy.... your eyelids are soooo very heavy.... You will make the drive!!! When I count to 3 you will feel refreshed and ready to plan your trip---To SportsMan WareHouse! Magnum...Magnum.....Magn...........

1..... 2..... 3





WRONG!!!! MAGNUM!! :D

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22LR....44Mag......500Mag.....Have A Nice Day! :D

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Sorry don't know much about hand guns. Would you please label the bullets?
I just never got into target shooting with handguns @ stationary targets. Was boring. I enjoy shooting skeets and clays. I enjoy upland hunting but not deer, turkey, or duck- again, too much waiting around to shoot at something stationary. Too ADHD, I guessed:o .

Questions for Eldave. What makes you think that you can get a shot on target at a mountain lion that has been stalking you as you are backpacking about, enjoying nature? A bear can run at what, 10-12 mph? I supposed that a Grizzly will give you a moment to get a shot off as it is trying to warn you off but a hungry black bear looking for food? What about taking the time to learn about bear behavior, mating season, roaming habitat in order to avoid running into them? Not telling, just asking out of "ignorance".

As for home defense and knife, as Crocodile dundee said "that's not a knife, this is a knife".:D

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that's not the wakizashi I saw you with last;)

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I really thought someone would of taken a stab at the line! By Now! :confused:

Let's see! From Left to right...:confused: :D

12Guage"OO" Buck--500Magnum--45acp--44Mag--40 S&W--357Mag--38Spl--9mm Lugar--380--22Mag--22LR

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My 45 acp looks so small next to alot of those cartridges :(

Glad I have a 44, a couple of 357's and a 38 for good measure. ;)

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I don't know if I'll be able to guard against mountain lions. Only if I'm lucky to see them first (that's what dogs are for, and they have growled for no reason in the woods, mountain lion or not, I'll rely on them for early warning).

Bears can run 30+ mph. But typicaly bear behavior is to pose/posture, rear up, growl, then fake charge, then full charge. Unless you come upon them while feeding, and you are being an idiot by not making noise, you will have enough time to be ready.

I'd say I'm very familiar with bear territory (weeklong bike trip, separate backpacking trip in Alaska, backpacking for 6 weeks in Montana, backpacking through Glacier & Yellowstone, North Cascades, plus a run-in live w/a black bear while pheasant hunting near Yakima, WA). I rarely go out in bear country w/out sounds, whistling, dogs, etc. My preference is to avoid contact at all costs, but when it does happen, I don't want to have to worry about it. I shouldn't be stupid enough to come up on a bear feeding, since hopefully I'll have done everything to not put myself in that situation.

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Careful evldave, you'll put an eye out with a gun.