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CO Hummer 12-05-2006 10:44 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Poopy
like the cum snowballs your moms passed around last night.


The beauty of your posts is reflected in that fact that you think this comment is funny while everyone else reads it and thinks to himself "wow, it's that guy white trash or what".

Oh, Ca--na-da!!!

StillRYE 12-05-2006 10:44 PM

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;)

Poopy 12-05-2006 10:45 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CO Hummer
The beauty of your posts is reflected in that fact that you think this comment is funny while everyone else reads it and thinks to himself "wow, it's that guy white trash or what".

Oh, Ca--na-da!!!


Nice try Junior.

:giggling:

CO Hummer 12-05-2006 10:49 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
Nice try Junior.

:giggling:


Then.........the next thing everyone sees is you posting this. They say to themselves "Is that all he's got?".


WHERE ARE THE PICS OF THAT 'RANCH'?

Poopy 12-05-2006 10:50 PM

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Nope anyone reading this is thinking, "Sh!t, Cok Hummper is really looking pathetic with his pitiful comebacks, why doesn't he just STFU, he's embarrasing H2's worldwide."

CO Hummer 12-05-2006 10:55 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
Nope anyone reading this is thinking, "Sh!t, Cok Hummper is really looking pathetic with his pitiful comebacks, why doesn't he just STFU, he's embarrasing H2's worldwide."


Owning a Candian redneck in under 10 minutes........FUN

Watching the Raahr111 rise up.........GREAT FUN!

Reading the above quote..........PRICELESS.

Poopy 12-05-2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer

Watching the Raahr111 rise up.........GREAT FUN!



Is that your islamic god? are YOU a terrorist? BTW you are the one that got owned.....

CO Hummer 12-05-2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Poopy
Is that your islamic god? are YOU a terrorist? BTW you are the one that got owned.....


I know you are, but what am I. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


hahaha!


WHERE'S THE PICS OF YOUR 'RANCH'?

Poopy 12-05-2006 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CO Hummer
I know you are, but what am I. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


hahaha!


WHERE'S THE PICS OF YOUR 'RANCH'?


I already posted it you dumb sh!t.

PARAGON 12-05-2006 11:07 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
I already posted it you dumb sh!t.

Yo' momma:giggling:

CO Hummer 12-05-2006 11:09 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
I already posted it you dumb sh!t.


I'm talking about yours, not your Daddy's. See my post over there, Skippy.

PARAGON 12-06-2006 02:37 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
I don't want to, there is no point. I just tried to help with this serious hummer defect, and you guys just jump all over me....:lame:

ok maybe one pic.....it actually balanced there with no straps on. :D



I knew something looked a little familiar there

Poor poopy had to resort, oh Lord please say it isn't so. That's not a chevy rear end stuck up in the air, is it?

PARAGON 12-06-2006 02:38 AM

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Hell, if wanted to ride on limestone, I could down to my farm and do that. :lame:

Poopy 12-06-2006 04:32 AM

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Limestone? This is the northwest, we dont have limestone. Thats granite....learn some geology.


And that is a dana spicer rear end. Out of a ford, and the front is out of a dodge. No chevy crap on my rig. Maybe i should try one of your plastic t-cases?

How come you changed your sig line? Now its a tough guy marines sig line....LOL trying to intimidate?

PARAGON 12-06-2006 05:29 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
Limestone? This is the northwest, we dont have limestone. Thats granite....learn some geology.


And that is a dana spicer rear end. Out of a ford, and the front is out of a dodge. No chevy crap on my rig. Maybe i should try one of your plastic t-cases?

How come you changed your sig line? Now its a tough guy marines sig line....LOL trying to intimidate?

You fucking goofbal the Albert Camus quote was in reference to Marine Devil Dogs. My sigs usually have something related to the Marine Corps.

So, when you told a guy you were running D60s f/r and it was a Dodge up front chevy out back you were lying.... or is it that your are lying now. Dana..... yeah, that's typical yota fare.:twak:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poopy
front is a 91.5 dodge, rear is a chevy from something.....


Poopy 12-06-2006 05:58 AM

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Nope not lying, i just found out yesterday it was a ford van. I broke an axle last weekend and measured it, low and behold its a ford van. ;) I'm so happy that you are so concerned with the details of my rig, I'm flattered really. Thanks Paragon!

Tech tip here....Dont borrow 44" tires with 30 spline dana 60s and try to climb vertical ledges.....things tend to break. :giggling:

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:00 AM

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:OWNED: :jump:
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Originally Posted by Poopy
Nope not lying, i just found out yesterday it was a ford van. I broke an axle last weekend and measured it, low and behold its a ford van. ;) I'm so happy that you are so concerned with the details of my rig, I'm flattered really. Thanks Paragon!

Tech tip here....Dont borrow 44" tires with 30 spline dana 60s and try to climb vertical ledges.....things tend to break. :giggling:

:jump::lame: :lame: :OWNED:

Poopy 12-06-2006 06:03 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
Care to elaborate?

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Poopy
Care to elaborate?

Care to elaborate:crying: :shhh: :excited: :cool: :yawn:

Poopy 12-06-2006 06:08 AM

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It appears the great paragon, has had a melt down, like a robot that can no longer compute....he is finished.

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:10 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
:lame:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Poopy
It appears the great paragon, has had a melt down, like a robot that can no longer compute....he is finished.


NEOCON1 12-06-2006 06:11 AM

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my internet crashes for 3 hours tonight and i miss all this sillyness ;)

Poopy 12-06-2006 06:11 AM

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RIP Paragon, it was fun.

Poopy 12-06-2006 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NEOCON1
my internet crashes for 3 hours tonight and i miss all this sillyness ;)


It is some good sillyness. Poor Paragon takes it all seriously though, he better watch his ticker.

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Poopy
RIP Paragon, it was fun.

:twak:

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Poopy
RIP Paragon, it was fun.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poopy
front is a 91.5 dodge, rear is a chevy from something.....

:giggling:

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:15 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Poopy
It is some good sillyness. Poor Paragon takes it all seriously though, he better watch his ticker.

:yawn:

Poopy 12-06-2006 06:16 AM

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Dood! Are you ok!?? Too many meds tonight? What gives? Someone call 911 and send it to the richest guy in americas house or farm! Help!

:excited:

PARAGON 12-06-2006 06:23 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
finally driven me to sleep, poop is just .......too............ ****ing........... boring and ........lame....... to............. try.......... to...................... continue

Boar-Ral 12-06-2006 06:57 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Oh noes!:eek: We should have gotten a Subaru.:dancingbanana:

I wouldn't recommend it. A friend of mine is a mechanic at the local Subaru dealership and when I considered purchasing one, he recommended I purchase a second one for spare parts. They have nine parked in the back that have been waiting for parts for the past two months.

I know two people with Subaru Outbacks and they both drive like idiots. One dropped his transmission after driving two kilometers in reverse at 60 km/h, and another needed a new engine after running the engine without oil changes and eventually running the engine without oil.

Boar-Ral 12-06-2006 07:06 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
Where are the actual sensors located? Are they located inside the axle casing, or at the actual wheel assembly? I have had my ABS light come on twice when offroading, and of course, because traction control relies on these sensors, everything shuts down. So I guess the root of the problem is something flaking out with the sensors, whether it be for the reasons others have stated, like excessive wheel spin, or something else. I was just wondering where the sensors were, because I was wondering if it was possible to get gunk in between them that might cause a problem. I am experiencing problems with the ABS sensors on my car at the moment, due to a wire harness that is almost torn out. Until the replacement gets here, it tends to flake out a lot right around freezing, when I think snow and ice melt and moisture gets in there. When it is really warm, or really cold, it is never a problem.

Boar-Ral 12-06-2006 07:38 PM

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I only have a basic knowledge of how the wheel sensors work, but enough that I suspected that they should be able to detect wheel direction as well. I spent a few minutes searching and found that there are a couple companies that make directional wheel sensors for automobile manufacturers. They are essentially a normal wheel sensor, but the magnets on the inside of the sensor are staggered with their north and south poles reversed. Then, the outside of the sensor has two magnets, and simple electronics calculate the wheel direction based on what pole is encountered first and by what magnet as it circles the hub.

I called AM General to inquire what model of wheel sensor they use in the H2 and if it is capable of detecting wheel direction. They are supposed to call me back today or tomorrow.

sj-x 500 12-08-2006 07:25 AM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
the sensors are typically located at the hub, on the back side of the hub there will be a type of gold or silver colored ring pressed over the outside of the hub. the pickup is held in the housing on teh rear axle, or in the caliper bracket usually.

the hub rotates, and the "sensor" which is just a magnet, with some thin coper windings around it, picks up on the raising and collapsing magnetic feild, which induces the voltage in the wire, sending a pulse to the ecm along the wires.

do you have a link to how a directional sensor would work?

Boar-Ral 12-08-2006 04:34 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by sj-x 500
the sensors are typically located at the hub, on the back side of the hub there will be a type of gold or silver colored ring pressed over the outside of the hub. the pickup is held in the housing on teh rear axle, or in the caliper bracket usually.

the hub rotates, and the "sensor" which is just a magnet, with some thin coper windings around it, picks up on the raising and collapsing magnetic feild, which induces the voltage in the wire, sending a pulse to the ecm along the wires.

do you have a link to how a directional sensor would work?

I had bookmarked a web site when the discussion first started, but I cleared them out yesterday, when doing housecleaning.

I did find another web site though, but this one seems to utilize the Hall Effect, and is different from the one I first found. You can read it here, though.

I also found this web site, where it indicates that the upcoming (or at least upcoming when announced recently) 4Runner will also be able to detect wheel direction, though they are pretty vague on details, apart from the basics that we already know.

While thinking about it further, I can see how you might be able to more easily detect wheel direction with a magnetic system. What if around the ring, you had magnets of increasing strength, and the system could detect if the field was increasing gradually, then sharp dropoff, etc. or decreasing gradually, then sharp rise, etc.? I guess the problem there would be that because the field is translated to voltage in a normal system, increasing voltage means increasing speed. This system I'm proposing would see increasing voltage, just in normal wheel spin, even if the vehicle is not accelerating. Hmm. Maybe there is a way to compensate for that. Maybe two equally-strong magnets on opposite sides of the ring, and the system uses those as "checks." (It would need two sensors on opposite sides of the ring, too, to monitor.) Sorry if I am rambling, and if I am a bit vague. Sometimes I wish I had the intelligence to be an inventor. :)

Boar-Ral 12-08-2006 04:36 PM

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I forgot to mention that when I first contacted AM General, they indicated to me that they were unable to tell me the model of the wheel sensor because it was proprietary information. Proprietary does not seem to be the right word, here. Regardless, they would not provide the model number to me. When I contacted them again, and simply asked whether or not the sensor was capable of detecting wheel direction, they did not get back to me. Either they do not know, they are waiting on an engineer, or I pissed them off.

Captain of the Titanic 12-08-2006 04:51 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
Come on guys...

We all know the utter superiority of the Subarus. The Subaru guys always get the good looking women, tame the toughest trails, and all-in-all are, as Poopy said, god-like.




Okay, that's enough... I can't keep a straight face anymore


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a Idiot... SUBARU!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Boar-Ral 12-08-2006 05:15 PM

Re: Why did this happen?
 
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Originally Posted by Captain of the Titanic
We all know the utter superiority of the Subarus. The Subaru guys always get the good looking women, tame the toughest trails, and all-in-all are, as Poopy said, god-like.

Okay, that's enough... I can't keep a straight face anymore

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a Idiot... SUBARU!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Apart from the issues expressed by my friend who works at the local Subaru dealership, I can see the Subaru being a vehicle that the average person might enjoy. If you stick to the highway, it is a nice vehicle, and the AWD would be a nice feature in the winter. But let's face it, most of us didn't buy a Hummer to keep it on the pavement. And for those who did, the reason was probably because the Hummer is "in your face." Heck, I like it for both reasons. But the Subaru is neither, and I think that is where a lot of the hostility comes from. If I simply wanted a vehicle to just drive to and from work each day, with the benefit of AWD, it would be something I could see myself driving, if not for my friend scaring me away from them. I guess I'm just saying they're not a horrible vehicle, just not something you can compare to a Hummer.


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