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Albie has a 6" Fabtech with 40's and his rubs like a teenage boy getting his first peek at Penthouse.quote] :perfect10s: |
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I'd like to do a 2 to 3" lift in the front and a 1.5" lift in the back... But, wouldnt it make my 35" tires look small ??? I dont want to go any bigger than 35" because 1) performance is already taken a hit, 2) I dont want my gas mileage to take a hit when you go 37"...
I just want to get rid of the rake I have... So my plan was to do the green torsion keys, get Deaver springs for the rear that are 1.5" longer ( but keep the same spring rates from the factory so it wont affect the towing capacities), Do the Fab tech tie rods, FOX 2.5 Resevoir shocks all around ( I was given $1300 install price, is that a good deal ???), and do all the cognito suspension upgrades... I know by the time I've spent my money on those upgrades that I've spent enough money for a kit but I dont want too much of a lift any ways... I just want the rake get rid of the rake and have better suspension and stronger components in the suspension... Any thoughts on my plans would be great for all you suspension gurus out there.... p.s. anyone know the part number for our rear springs w/o the air shocks ???? Deaver is asking me for them soo they can refference it with the springs they're planning on selling to me .... |
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I run the 2.5/3 F and 1.5R with stock tires and I think it looks fine. Just has more articualtion room in the wells.
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$1300 for just labor to install these items is too much. i had all that labor (except change springs) for $500 labor in san diego. also get a tuner so you can get more power and pep out of the h2 |
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I had my Truxxx lift kit (front and rear) installed for $150.00
granted I knew the guy. :shhh: |
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OK that's what the fox shocks 2.5's cost, so your getting free installation.
but shop around you might be able to get a better price on the fox's. try downsouthmotorsports.com |
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The thing is should I get the factory replacement FOX Shocks for the H2 or get something else because I'll be doing the torsion key lift when this gets installed.... |
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the fox 2.5 shocks you want are a special part number
Front 980-99-316A Rear 980-99-317A the ones on his website are much bigger in size. you would have to call him and ask what his best price is, it just a option. the website is one a few buddys used and got better pricing on the fox shocks for there off road buggys. i bought my 4 for $1264 shipped from rod hall racing website. i have these on the h2 with the torsion key lift and they work great. the shocks are installed without the shock spacer brackets, they dont need them. if you come down to san diego you can check my h2 out if you like. |
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Anybody else know of a more affordable upgrade shock upgrade for the Truxxx 2.5/3F-1.5R Lift?
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i have a slight prerunner look. i have the h2 a bit over level, this way when i hit jumps the 37's have a little more travel.
depending on the jump the tires rub the wheel well plastic cover.:D |
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If you decide to get the keys and stuff, let me know. I just installed a Truxx kit in the front and a set of spacers (1.5") in the rear.
I'm getting rid of it because I'm going to install an actual lift kit. Let me know if you're interestedl, my kit isn't even 2 weeks old. Mark PS. And no, it doesn't look stupid with 35's, that's what I've got on there now. Quote:
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Yeah, buy a set of bilsteins (roughly 80 bucks a shock) for an HD2500 Mark |
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I have had half a dozen Chevy trucks that I just cranked the torsion bars on, including two 2500HDs, and they did okay. On my 2005 2500HD I installed the Cognito Motorsports leveling kit (2 - 3") with the shock extensions and Bilsteins, and now I have a solid 12" clearance under the front skid plate with 33" tires and love the ride quality.
Tomorrow on my 2008 H2 SUV Lux I am having installed some keys ($90 w/ s&h off ebay, with shock extensions), (I know now that I should have just bought the GM green leys and skipped the extensions), and 2" rear spring spacers ($42 w/ s&h off ebay). I told the installer to just raise the front 2" and leave off the shock extensions. Of course I will also have it aligned. I am sticking with the stock 35" tires until they need replacing, and am leaving off the shock extensions. I like the factory rake. Besides, without the rake, when you put a load on, it would look like the rear end was sagging. If I don't like the ride or vibration or something else doesn't jive I will take the next step - the Cognito Motorsports leveling kit (2 - 3"). :beerchug: |
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I've read that those e-bay keys break, I'd send them back. Besides the Truxxx have a lifetime warranty.
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There are many different keys on eBay. The Truxxx keys are made of solid steel that are laser cut. The $90 keys I bought are made of forged steel. The stock keys are cast steel. I think the $90 forged steel ones will be less likely to break than the stock cast steel ones.
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Oh yeah, the $90 key kit also has a lifetime warranty, and the seller (levelingsolutions) has 4000+ eBay transactions with 100% approval rating. They also sell the Truxx kit.
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So if I am going with keys and stock shocks, am I better to use no shock extension at all?
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I'd say yes. The reason I say that is because when I put keys on and used the shock extensions, I literally had no room for the shocks to compress. They didn't bottom out while driving on the road but I also didn't hit any bumps. That's the reason I bought the bilstein shocks so I could remove the shock extensions. Mark |
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What are the Bilstein part numbers for an H2 with 2 - 3 inch lift? What about the Bilstein part numbers for a 2500HD shock to fit the H2 with a 2 - 3 inch lift?
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Bilstein F4-BE5-6243-H5 12" compressed, 19" extended, 7" travel, It is 389/94 valving which is pretty firm. Bilstein BE5-6140-T5 11.77" compressed, 18.42" extended, 6.65" travel. It's valved at 366/240which is very similar rebound, but much firmer compression giving a much firmer ride. Both shocks will work, one will be firm and the other will be really firm. |
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Very cool, thanks. They are advertised to fit 4" lift F150/250.(?)
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Which Bilsteins did you put on the back?
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btt, any updates, pics, good, bad, great? :popcorn:
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I just had the Cognito 2-3" lift put on the H2. It is a fantastic kit and installation was easy. Before my rear end was obviously higher than my front, just like every other stock H2. Now, my rear is still at 42" (bottom of fender to ground) and my front end is 43 1/2". Thus, this kit easily gave me 2" of lift if not more. DUCK |
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Did my lift yesterday acutally. I made spacers for the rear airide springs. Then did the Green Keys for the front. The end result of my lift was about
1-1/4" of lift in the front. and about 2-1/2" in the rear. I also have 37" tires so the truck is rideing 2-2 1/2" hirer than stock. Over all it looks really good. With me only going a little 1-1/4" inches hirer in the front I did not do new shcoks. However..... When I do get new the full cognito set up I will go further up |
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Did my lift yesterday acutally. I made spacers for the rear airide springs. Then did the Green Keys for the front. The end result of my lift was about
1-1/4" of lift in the front. and about 2-1/2" in the rear. I also have 37" tires so the truck is rideing 2-2 1/2" higher than stock. Over all it looks really good. With me only going a little 1-1/4" inches higher in the front I did not do new shocks. However..... When I do get new the full cognito set up I will go further up. |
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Do you have more info. on the rear spacers and pics? Did you do anything different for your brake lines, shocks, or, ride height sensors? |
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Yeah, I too would like more info. on the air susp. spacers. Thanks, DUCK |
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I did not take any pix.
If you take your air spring out you will notice that the weight of the truck rides on a PLASTIC Cylinder with a bolt through the center to the axel to keep in centered. Unbolt the plastic cylinder. Get some longer bolts to match how much you want to lift. I went 1 1/2" inches higher with the spacers. So I got bolts that were 1 1/2" inches longer. Note MAKE SURE YOU GET GRADE 10.9 BOLTS They are metric. I cannot remember the size. I want to say they are an M10 but do not hold me too it. Then you need to get washers that will have the same a diameter as the inside surface of the cylinder. Then get 2" PVC pipe and cut your desired spacing height. I cut off two 1-1/2" pieces They (PVC) pipes will encase the bolt and washers and line up with the outer diameter of the cylinder. Run the bolt through the Cylinder, the washes and PVC pipe and torque down. Get a 4" diameter piece of PVC and cut to same length. This will be outer diameter of the air spring bucket to set on. Snap the air spring back into place and inflate it buy putting the hose in your mouth so you can line up the outer PVC spacer with the spring on the axel. Then hook the lines to your compressor. Hit it with some flat black paint and your done building the spacer. I know it sounds hokey etc.... But it works and it works well. I immediately flexed the hell out of the suspension and inspcected to make sure nothing was loos or moving around. Everything held Extremely tight even with the suspension all twisted. I did not take any pix I will take some with my cell phone at lunch so you can see the end result. After adding the spacers you have to trick the height sensors by adjusting them to get desired ride height. I used a Tec2 to do this. |
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Ok I took some pix with my BB at lunch.
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Nicely done!
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The truck before the discussed lift:
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Sorry to bump and old thread, but I found this during an image search on Google and it turns out to be good timing because I am putting together my front suspension right now. I have Cognito UCA's, Truxx shock extenders and keys, and plan to crank the torsion keys up 2" or so. I bought Bilstein 5100's from http://www.dmaxstore.com and after reading the above bold section I probably ended up with the 2500HD shocks (part# F4-BE5-D146-H1). I have the driver's side done and I had to compress the snot out of the shock to get it to line up with the bracket holes (I haven't cranked the keys yet). If I ended up with the longer travel shocks from the 2500HD, do I need to go back to the stock lower shock mount or am I okay with the extended ones? |
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I've actually been looking at this thread myself lately, but what made you decide on cognito UCA vs dmax UCA
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You will definitely need to use the original shorter shock mounts when using longer travel shocks. And you will definitely benefit from the longer travel provided by the longer shocks. Besides looking cool, the whole reason for a lift kit is more suspension travel. Check out the Bilstein shocks specifically for H2's with 0 - 2.5" torsion bar lift.
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I didn't see a dmax uca. The Kryptonite ones weren't available when I ordered all of my parts which is why I went Cognito. |
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