Re: diesel
 

This is what Hummer has decided to do. They feel that Hummer will do better over seas with a diesel. The Colorado and Canyon were developed by Isuzu. The truck version of the Isuzu has the diesel available everywhere but the US. A number of things happened around the Colorado but GM decided to build Isuzu pickups in the US in exchange for Isuzu to supply diesel engines for H3 built in South Africa. But the majority will come with the I-5 motor. I have heard nothing of a diesel in the near term for US. But other things better to come. Stay tuned.

Re: diesel
 

I think GM is vastly underestimating the market for diesel engines in H3s. Yes I understand what the market studies show. I also look back and see projects that went the opposite of the market created a whole new category unto itself. I think the new younger generation of young professionals would be very interested in a vehicle like this. It's small enough to daily driver and capable to take you to your weekend hobbies off the beaten trail. When you combine the small comfortable package with a heavy duty(for size) diesel engine and beefed up axles, I think the new YPs will gladly spend a few more dollars for quality. I think that it would be a bold move by GM, but I think they would profit suprisingly by its venture.

Re: diesel
 

Re: diesel
 

TOUCHE :beerchug:

RYD

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Sometimes, to be a success, I think GM should go with what makes sense. Seriously, I look at the ads for the H3 and then look at this forum, and I can't for the life of me think of who GM thinks buys, or really wants the H3. The commercials are borderline ridiculous. Bling this, submarine that. Good grief.

Look at the Amstar Wilderness package. Look at the enthusiasm for it. Look at how willing people are to plop out the money for the Adventure package. Learn from it.

Make the H3 Dmax Alpha as I described above, they will come. They're chickensheeot, no vision dummies for listening to marketing a-holes when they should be at least offering an enthusiast version of the H3.

I'm willing to bet that the reason that they DON'T offer the H3 Alpha is that they're worried about mass sales. If I were a fly on the H3 meeting walls, I'm sure that was the decision.

Re: diesel
 

Here's another view of the motor issue.

Didn't GM put Turbo chargers in the Prototypes? Why didn't they make it to production? Seems that the power issue would have been curved a bit keeping the turbo or super charger in the lineup?

As for the diesel issue, I think it will require one of two things.
1) the market to change for diesel, requiring the companies to change
or
2) the companies building diesels requiring the fuel stations to now market it forcing the car buyer to change.

The average Joe, probably has no idea what's in his vehicle. From first hand experience with drivers, especially in a "ME " generation market like NY. These folks have absolutely no idea or desire to know what the prime mover of their car is. They just want to put the key in the ignition and go.
Sad, very sad. But this is the source for marketing info.

Re: diesel
 

H3 Builder - please tell us a little more about the better things coming to the H3.

S.

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I don't know the perticulars, but it was canned right after it showed up on the show circuit.

Re: diesel
 

Lex,

I think you have generalized a little on this,

PLUS

I believe over 90% of H-3 owners DO NOT fit your stated profile