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lance-n 03-05-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Just checked the last 8 digits of my vin against the one posted here: 68287591
My vin in about 140000 less than that number. :crying:

HummBebe 03-05-2007 08:26 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Hey lance....did you ever get my message?

Desert Dan 03-05-2007 08:50 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Does anybody know the total number of H3's with heads having to be replaced?

lance-n 03-05-2007 08:51 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
no, i did not. i would ask you where i might find it, but thought that might produce a colorful response!

HummBebe 03-05-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Check your PM's :giggling:

HummBebe 03-05-2007 09:02 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
There is a group of us who want to run down to Cabo :)

lance-n 03-05-2007 10:08 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
There is a group of us who want to run down to Cabo :)


That could be a great trip. :dancingbanana:
I sent you a pm on that topic.

Is F5FStop out sick today?
I could really use some words of encouragement about the engine vibrations i am experiencing.

lance-n 03-05-2007 11:16 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
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Here is a map of a 7 day trip from Ensenada to Cabo. Not sure on the mileage on this trail, but it has to be at least 1,300 miles. The red line is the 7 day trip map.

HummBebe 03-05-2007 11:33 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lance-n
i sure hope i dont have to drive 1,100 miles back to the dealer!!! cabo to san diego, although it would be a fun trip assuming i don't get stuck in some long stretch of desert highway with no cell service and just greedy bandidos waiting for an easy opportunity!
i have 14,250 miles on mine and about a week or so ago i started noticing a little bit of engine vibration when i stop. i have tried turning off the ac to see if it is just the extra pull on the engine at idle. it doesn't seem to matter whether ac is on or off. i have not had a check engine light come on - ever since i have had the h3. it doesn't seem to be getting worse, but it makes me nervous. i ordered a new fuel filter, as maybe it is full of crap from the sh*tty fuel we get here. mine was built in june of 2005 and i have done several oil changes.
are these the prelim symptoms that others have been experiencing? if so, i would like to prevent the problem before it is unfixable here locally.

F5 please let me know your wisdom!!!!! let me know what you recommend please.

:grouphug: <<<< prayer circle


:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

HummBebe 03-06-2007 03:31 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
That's a great map, we'll start a Cabo thread soon.

Steve - SanJose 03-06-2007 06:01 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
I like Cabo and Todas Santos, but I fly there and get a cheapo stick shift rental car.

lance-n 03-06-2007 06:22 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
budget has h3 and h2 rentals here now!!!!

:jump:

Steve - SanJose 03-06-2007 07:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lance-n
budget has h3 and h2 rentals here now!!!!

:jump:


Now I will be much happier on my next visit!:D

Thanks for letting me know.

usetosellhummer 03-06-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
mine craped out traded on 07

FJD 03-08-2007 04:03 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Guess I need to be added to the list....................:mad:

Just got back from the dealer and need my head replaced as well. Don't have the VIN handy but I have an early year too so I guess my VIN falls into the early group. My experience is identical to everyone else, started running rough then the engine light came on. Called Onstar and they told me it was a misfire code and I needed to get it to the dealer. Brought it by today and he knew what to expect so he quickly put in on the computer to test and it came back bad head. Told me OK to drive it while they order the parts. Told me they've done about a dozen already and have 4 more in the hopper they are waiting to do. Said they've been pretty good getting the parts and usually have it done in a day and a half. I was keeping my fingers crossed mine was going to slip by.................:(

29,500 miles, auto, bought 11/05.

Time to call GM to see about them extending the warranty.....

Desert Dan 03-08-2007 06:52 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Does anybody know where the I-5 enigine is made?

I am still confused if it is the valve seat or valve guide that is defective which causes the loss in compression.

Av1ator 03-09-2007 03:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Dan
Does anybody know where the I-5 enigine is made?


Tonawonda, New York

Dani 03-09-2007 09:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
Tonawonda, New York


Ah the good ole Tonawanda engine plant. My father in law works there. That could explain the defects:giggling:

wpage 03-09-2007 09:35 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
What does a recall smell like?:grouphug:

Steve - SanJose 03-09-2007 10:12 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Don't know what recall smells like, but I did hear that word come out of the service writer's mouth recently when he mentioned the possibility. Interesting.

Dani 03-09-2007 10:17 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
How many have had to have theirs replaced more than once? I'm noticing that my h3 doesn't idle properly yet again. I'm hoping it's not this issue once again.

I may just trade for an '07 or up to an h2

usetosellhummer 03-09-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
I didn't take a big hit trading up to 07. check into it when the big offers come out again.

hmrlvr 03-09-2007 10:23 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
I know I'm speaking of a colorado but, Just got mine back 2 days ago after 40 days in the service dept. and a newly installed head. Now it's idling rough again. They put it on the computer and now a misfire in cylinder 3:confused: . Damn...

Desert Dan 03-09-2007 10:47 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
hmrlvr and Dani

Sorry to hear that your check engine light has come on again and your engine is idleing rough AGAIN!

My new head came in but the dealer is waiting on the head gasket!

Maybe next week I can get the head fixed:)

Sorry guys but if the new head doesn't fix the problem for good, I'm done with GM

I am not going take a hit and pay more money to trade up to a 2007 model just because the 2006 head is having problems. How do we know the 2007 head has corrected the problem? And I am not going to get the head replaced every 10K miles.

If it is a recall I want a new 2007 H3 to replace the 2006 gratis from GM.

hmrlvr 03-09-2007 10:58 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Desert Dan
hmrlvr and Dani



I am not going take a hit and pay more money to trade up to a 2007 model just because the 2006 head is having problems. How do we know the 2007 head has corrected the problem? And I am not going to get the head replaced every 10K miles.

If it is a recall I want a new 2007 H3 to replace the 2006 gratis from GM.


I understand completely. I am presently on hold with GM and have been for 48 minutes. No lie, 48 minutes. I'm not hanging up, I've got all day:popcorn:

GPan099 03-10-2007 12:51 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Called the dealer this afternoon. They've had my H3 since Monday doing the head replacement. They said they're waiting on a special order bolt & hopefully it will arrive Monday. They'll call me Monday to revise the status. The service manager mentioned that she had 7 H3s in the shop for the same cylinder head issue.

Dani 03-10-2007 01:08 AM

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[quote=Desert Dan]hmrlvr and Dani

Sorry guys but if the new head doesn't fix the problem for good, I'm done with GM
[\quote]

This is actually the first GM product I've ever owned. Now that I think of it- it's the first American made vehicle I've owned. Only reason I'd buy another GM is the fact that despite all the issues I've had with my H3- I love it. It's fun to drive and I can't imagine being without it.



*how the hell did I mess the quote up?

fourfourto 03-10-2007 01:11 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Im not liking what im hearing on this thread
I think it should be deleted.

WTF do I do if my head goes at 50,000.01 miles:crying:

Desert Dan 03-10-2007 01:43 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
I like my H3 too. It's my first GM vehicle but not my first US made vehicle.

Today is the first I have heard of people having it (rough idle, check engine light, and engine misfire code) happen a second time and this worries me about the fix.

If it is a recall issue they should let us know ASAP and treat all H3 owners the same and offer an extended warranty and guarantee the head replacement.

Replacing a cylinder head isn't rocket science and it shouldn't take a week to complete the job. I don't want them to rush it but a week is too long. I also worry about non-head related complications after the head replacement like oil leaks, timing chain issues, camshaft etc.

I bought a new vehicle to avoid this kind of stuff and never thought I'd have a head replacement at this time!


More info here...
http://www.hummerforums.com/m_31906/tm.htm

NEOCON1 03-10-2007 02:09 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
it sucks for you guys that have had this problem but it still seems like a 1 percent build issue . personaly if it happens to mine i would trade it in rather than take the chance of failing after warranty expires . i would raise some hell and let them know you expect a great deal on the new one and top trade-in dollar if you will stay with hummer . but first i would try to get them to put in a new 3.7 :p

Steve - SanJose 03-10-2007 02:20 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
My dealer service writer implied that it's a greater than 1% issue by far and he used the dreaded recall word as a possibility. He was surprised that at 34,000 miles of hard daily driving that I had not brought my H3 yet for the problem. Sounds like there's a 30 day wait for entire head assembly that gets replaced these days.

If mine blows shortly after warranty expires, I would expect GM to cough up help, otherwise end of business as far as I'm concerned.

No, the solution for the head problem is not to buy a 2007 and suck up thousands of dollars in depreciation loss on the 2006.

I'll keep driving my H3 (almost) like I rented it.

Av1ator 03-10-2007 05:46 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
If you haven't done it you should call Hummer Customer assistance ( 1-866-HUMMER6) and request the 100K warrenty on the engine. Sewie advised me to do and it was easy to do, two phone calls in two days and as advertised the extended warrenty paperwork came within a few weeks.

The customer service person bragged on and on about how GM was going to stand beside me and help me out. I did request the warrenty be extended to the entire powertrain but they were not willing to go that far.

This is the first American made new car I have owned since 1981 and am dissapointed with the problems. Lets face it, building cylinder heads is not exactly a new thing for GM.

I had a phone survey from GM a few weeks ago and I LET THEM HAVE IT about the cylinder head problems. I was told the comments went directly to GM. Maybe it will do some good.

NEOCON1 03-10-2007 05:55 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
Lets face it, building cylinder heads is not exactly a new thing for GM.



X2

No $hit they have probably built close to a billion , so i hope they can get their crap together on this real soon :twak: nice you got the warranty without too much hassle . but i dont think you should of even had to call , they should be offering it right up front and extending the 60 months .

hope things work out for all of you with this happening :(

westhillsat 03-10-2007 07:59 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
My vin is less than the evil vin number mentioned before :(

Anything happens to mine I wanna used H2

Steve - SanJose 03-10-2007 08:18 AM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
What's the deal with the warranty extension? Is that only for those that had the head replaced already?

Av1ator 03-10-2007 01:14 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Just call them up and tell them you are aware of the engine problems and that they have given others the extended warrenty and you want them to stand beside you all the way and give you the extended warretnty too like they have done so many others. After all you don't want to be on your own when the check engine light comes on at 50,100 miles.

Dani 03-10-2007 01:54 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose
What's the deal with the warranty extension? Is that only for those that had the head replaced already?


When I called GM to ask about a warranty extension they said they don't do warranty extensions. I think I had a lame advisor to help me out. This is the second time my engine has had issues. Cant remember the exact mileage from the first time (it's in here somewhere I'm just too lazy to look) but this time around- I have around 28k on it.

Steve - SanJose 03-10-2007 08:29 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Av1ator
Just call them up and tell them you are aware of the engine problems and that they have given others the extended warrenty and you want them to stand beside you all the way and give you the extended warretnty too like they have done so many others. After all you don't want to be on your own when the check engine light comes on at 50,100 miles.


Sounds nice, but has this been done before successfully by an H3 owner that has not yet had head replaced?

Actually I'm pretty confident I could get them to cough up at 50,100+ miles if necessary. I've received post warranty coverage from Ford and Porsche in the past without a fight. But I'd like to see GM step up in a proactive way.

westhillsat 04-26-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Had the check engine light on for a couple of days and it went into the local GMC dealer this morning to see what's wrong. Onstar was saying engine misfire.

At least I have alot of good info from the forum, we'll see what they say this afternoon :(

HummBebe 04-26-2007 08:22 PM

Re: Has anyone else had to have the entire head replaced? I smell recall.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by westhillsat
Had the check engine light on for a couple of days and it went into the local GMC dealer this morning to see what's wrong. Onstar was saying engine misfire.

At least I have alot of good info from the forum, we'll see what they say this afternoon :(


I've been wondering about that west, you mentioned it on the radio on Hells.

Well, new head for west eh?


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