Re: JK vs. H3
 

Looked at the new JK lineup last night. From the standpoint of everyday ease of use, comfort, and quality, forget it. Go with an H3. I haven't been in what felt more like a tin can since I rode in my friends Hyundai. The doors were like paper, and the back seat was pretty clausterphobic, especially with a giant speaker in your face hanging from the crossmember between the b-pillars. It might be the greatest Jeep ever, but it's got a long way to go to match the H3 as the best all-around 4-wheeler. If this is the best they've got, I hate to think about what the old Wranglers were like. No wonder they're usually trailered in/out. I wouldn't want to drive it on the highway either!

Re: JK vs. H3
 

so, what does that make for rear seat room in the H3?:confused:

since it's smaller

Makes a pretty stupid and weak argument.

thank you for your deeply insightful and completely erroneous viewpoint. It will, in no way, sway any reader's opinion on either vehicle and has simply wasted electricity by moving electrons to post it and transmit it as data.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

I like wasting electrons.:shhh:

The interior is not as plush as the 3's, no question about that. I found the ride comparable to the 3.

There's MORE rear seat room in the JK. More headroom, legroom and hiproom. What may be throwing you off is the back of the rear seat. It's angle is more verticle then on the 3 and thus, IMO, not as comfortable as the 3.

Front and rear lockers, unbelievable approach and departure angles, more clearance, longer wheelbase... The JK is the best "out of the box" 4x4 on the market. It's not the best 4x4 to take on trips and to the mall. It's not nearly comfortable enough.

I've said it before, the JK will outperform the 3 and 2 stock vs stock. That's just the way it is. And a lifted JK is going to kill a similarly prepped 2/3.

But yeah, it's not as plush and comfy.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

I have said it before and will say it again, I don't really care which is the best out of the box wheeler, since well over 90% of my seat time is on the road the H3 is the best fit for me. I was thinking earlier today about this debate as I sat behind a new JK. When comparing base vs base, which is better? Just curious because most of the comparisons that I see are a Rubi against an H3. I understand the Rubi is an incredible wheeler out of the box but what about the rest of the models? I realize they can be modded easier but that is not what we are talking about here either. Not trying to stir the pot, just curious.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

This thread is going on 6 months...

The H-4 will be out soon.

let this die already.....

RYD

Re: JK vs. H3
 

You do realize that you just added to it right? ;)

Re: JK vs. H3
 

fisted for ya, tis nice being on the ignore

Re: JK vs. H3
 

You bought the right truck for yourself, there's no doubt about that. I'd get an H3 also, if comparing, if I spent so much time tooling around in it, but I don't.

The SFA is stronger than the Hummer IFS so the base vs base should theoretically tip toward the JK. It's also lighter and has more ground clearance.

But, as stated before, the JK is not nearly as polished on the interior as the 3.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Take the Rubi out and it's much, much harder to draw a conclusion on wheeling. I think the H3 would be a much better peformer.

Without the stabi-disco, the reliability of the D44s, the better t-case, f/r lockers, etc of the Rubi, the Sahara and the X just don't cut the mustard offroad, IMO.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

Yeah but you couldn't keep those axles under the JK doing anything remotely difficult. They're tiny and would be snapping way too often.

Also, IMO, without being about to disco the front, the SFA isn't all that much better than the IFS.

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Remember the 44s, t-case, diffs, and trans are beefier internally than the prior years.

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The JK and the H3 both suck! :fdance: :jump:

The Fj is way better

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that's on the rubi

Sahara and X has D30 and D35 and different T-case

Re: JK vs. H3
 

:jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump: :jump:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

What you trying to say here :twak: ;)

Re: JK vs. H3
 

That is what I figured. Again, not trying to stir the pot or say mine is better than yours but just curious. I just hope that Hummer comes out with something soon that is truly a top contender against the likes of a Rubi when talking strictly off road.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

We don't drive our 2 very much, so everyday driving is irrelavent. Should have been more clear.:D

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Oh yeah... brain freeze.

They suck.:giggling:

Re: JK vs. H3
 

The problem with Hummer right now, is not only does it not offer an ultimate off-roader in stock form. What it does offer is a pain in the ass to modify to make it perform. They also don't go to the lengths that Toyota and Jeep did to push the vehicle pre-production to get the aftermarket ready for the vehicle so that it could be done. Well, except for the bling side.

Re: JK vs. H3
 

FZJ80 > than ALL!