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aces full 11-01-2003 12:36 AM

I finally got my IPOD hooked up, without FM modulation. It comes through the factory speakers, and sounds great.

Here's the setup I used (sorry, no pictures).

You'll need the following:
1-PIOGM1 from Soundscape ($145 yikes)
2-IP bus to RCA adapter from Pioneer ($15)
3-Stereo RCA male to mini male (Radio Shack $8)
4-Belkin Cigarette lighter adapter for IPOD (40)
5-12 volt cigarette lighter (Pep Boys $8)

Pull the stereo bezel, head unit, gear shift, console cover, and console insert...

plug in #1 & #2 to the back of the stereo. That will give you stereo RCA female. Plug in #3 into those RCA females.

Make a hole in the insert for the lighter. Tap off one of the 12 volts indash to power the lighter.

Plug the Belkin piece into your new lighter. The plug from the Belkin goes into the botom of the IPOD (same connector as the IPOD cradle has). The Belkin also has a mini input, and volume control. Plug in the mini from #3, turn up the volume, and you're set.


When you press the band button on the stereo, you now have AM, FM1, FM2, AUX1, and AUX2 (which I'll use for an XM Radio).

You can now change the setting on the IPOD for backlight, to always lit, as you'll never run out of power. Your IPOD is always being charged.

Cool setup. The 40 Gig IPOD holds approx 15000 songs, depending on rate which you sample, and length of songs. I'll never carry a CD again.

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'02 Black Honda Goldwing

aces full 11-01-2003 12:36 AM

I finally got my IPOD hooked up, without FM modulation. It comes through the factory speakers, and sounds great.

Here's the setup I used (sorry, no pictures).

You'll need the following:
1-PIOGM1 from Soundscape ($145 yikes)
2-IP bus to RCA adapter from Pioneer ($15)
3-Stereo RCA male to mini male (Radio Shack $8)
4-Belkin Cigarette lighter adapter for IPOD (40)
5-12 volt cigarette lighter (Pep Boys $8)

Pull the stereo bezel, head unit, gear shift, console cover, and console insert...

plug in #1 & #2 to the back of the stereo. That will give you stereo RCA female. Plug in #3 into those RCA females.

Make a hole in the insert for the lighter. Tap off one of the 12 volts indash to power the lighter.

Plug the Belkin piece into your new lighter. The plug from the Belkin goes into the botom of the IPOD (same connector as the IPOD cradle has). The Belkin also has a mini input, and volume control. Plug in the mini from #3, turn up the volume, and you're set.


When you press the band button on the stereo, you now have AM, FM1, FM2, AUX1, and AUX2 (which I'll use for an XM Radio).

You can now change the setting on the IPOD for backlight, to always lit, as you'll never run out of power. Your IPOD is always being charged.

Cool setup. The 40 Gig IPOD holds approx 15000 songs, depending on rate which you sample, and length of songs. I'll never carry a CD again.

'03 Black H2, fairly dressed up,
'03 Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Excursion,
'04 Red & Black Mini Cooper (on order),
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

SunsetGuy 11-01-2003 12:54 AM

You're sweet dude!

How did you come up with this fix?

PARAGON 11-01-2003 01:14 AM

I have to ask the obvious question, do you still have the 6-disc changer on the Aux 1 or did this setup eliminate that.

I am assuming it did from your post, but before I start ordering, I want to make sure.

aces full 11-01-2003 01:57 AM

Sunset Guy, How did I come up with the fix?? I just kept searching, until one company said they were about 2 weeks away from the product, and I took a chance, and gave them my AMEX card...the part arrived this morning, and it's already done!!!! If you're not interested in tinkering, any decent Car Audio shop can handle this one easily.....but you have to push them for the location of the IPOD....I wouldn't want it where you had wires dangling, hence my use of the console interior!!!!

Paragon...the CD changer doesn't use up either of the Aux ins....you still have that, and select it from the CD/Aux button (in that case, the Aux button does nothing)....you get to the Aux ins by pushing the band button, which cycles from am, fm1, fm2, aux 1, and aux2....so you can have an MP3 player, and a Satellite Radio, or whatever uses you come up with for the Auxes!!!!!

'03 Black H2, fairly dressed up,
'03 Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Excursion,
'04 Red & Black Mini Cooper (on order),
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

kdio 11-01-2003 04:28 AM

Aces Full, do you have a link to where we can buy this stuff. Great job.

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aces full 11-01-2003 05:06 AM

I bought the PIOGM1 through http://www.soundgate.com/products/cd/hummer.htm

I got the Pioneer IP bus to RCA adapter at a local car stereo store

The Belkin piece can be bought at Best Buy.

'03 Black H2, fairly dressed up
'00 Black Mercedes S430
'03 Mineral Grey Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Ford Excursion
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

Erod 11-01-2003 11:34 AM

Thanks I been looking for this kind of interface for a while. So you still have onstar and steering wheel controls?

Thanks Again, Now I have to decide on which kind of Mp3 player to get.

Erick

PARAGON 11-01-2003 11:54 AM

Aces, I should have read your post more closely. Now, you are definitely the hero for this because this opens the door for many more possibilities.

Erod, I have the Archos Jukebox Multimedia 20 Super Bundle and love it. I plan to have one of the aux set up for this.

aces full 11-01-2003 01:07 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Erod:
Thanks I been looking for this kind of interface for a while. So you still have onstar and steering wheel controls?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Erod...this mod doesn't mess w/your steering wheel controls, or your Onstar...one bit of advice...when I was plugging the new gear in, I dislodged one of the connections, and lost keyless entry, and the ability to start the engine...it must have been an anti-theft function....when I retraced my steps, and tightened all the plugins, everything reverted to normal.

As far as which MP3 player, while the IPOD is a little expensive, it's looks and functions are elegant, and I'm really happy with it. I own a recording studio in Nashville, and it's the most common MP3 player I see here amongst music professionals.

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'00 Black Mercedes S430
'03 Mineral Grey Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Ford Excursion
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

TouchdownTN 11-03-2003 04:41 AM

Aces Full,
Please post the website or phone # of the audio shop in Nashville where you got the IP-Pioneer converter. I live about an hour north of Knoxville, and would like to either pick one of these up the next time I'm in Nashville or have them ship me one. BTW, What is the part # if you have it for the IP-Pioneer converter. Just want to verify one more thing! You do have 2 Aux inputs (MP3, and Sat Radio) Thanks a ton for the mod and please let us know about a part # if possible on the Pioneer unit from the local shop. Thanks,

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TouchdownTN 11-03-2003 04:43 AM

When I say IP-Pioneer I guess I am talking about "2-IP bus to RCA adapter from Pioneer ($15)" Just to clarify. Thanks again

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cmb31078 11-03-2003 05:38 AM

Aces,
Do you mind posting some pics of how you have the ipod installed and where the wires are located. Thanks in advance.

Craig
(Fellow Nashvillian)

aces full 11-03-2003 12:02 PM

Touchdown, TN, The Pioneer adapter can be ordered from Soundscape, where you're going to get the PIOGM-1. They'll give you the part number. I got mine from a car stereo shop in Nashville, only because Soundscape was temporarily out of them. And, to confirm, you'll have 2 Aux inputs!!!!

Craig, I'm sorry I don't have pictures. To show a picture now, all you'd see is a wire coming out of the console, with the console cover shut on top of it, and the IPOD sitting in the cup holder. I should have taken pictures showing the routing of the wires used during installation. IF you still want to see what I've got, email me at rlandis@comcast.net, and we'll work out a time for me to show you my H2. My business is in Berry Hill, if that's near you.

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'00 Black Mercedes S430
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'02 Black Honda Goldwing

cmb31078 11-03-2003 11:21 PM

Aces,
Thanks for the more info. I was just wondering what you did with the ipod and how you had the wires ran. Hope to see you around.

Craig

mseeliger 11-04-2003 01:33 PM

Your the man! I just ordered mine. I am going for the XM in my H2

People like you are what make this site so great.

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95 Ferrari F355
01 Ducati 748

Erod 11-04-2003 01:40 PM

Acces full,

Well I have one more question for you. Since you have your IPOD on your H2, can you control the IPOD using your Steering Wheel controls or do you control directly through the IPOD? I am strongly considering the IPOD, However there are some pretty nice jukeboxes Like the OMNI LINK Jukebox which provides you with wireless sinking or the Kendwood keg.
I am asking you this since it would be nice if I could control the Jukebox using my steering wheel controls. Thank you very much for your time

aces full 11-04-2003 01:59 PM

Erod...I'm pretty sure that the only things that can be controlled off the steering wheel are devices that have a learning remote....you can then program that remote to respond to buttons on the steering wheel. The IPOD doesn't have such a remote, so you have to command it manually. It's a small price to pay for such a great device. If you learn something different, let me know.

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'00 Black Mercedes S430
'03 Mineral Grey Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Ford Excursion
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

OUSUCKS 11-05-2003 11:51 PM

Has anyone used this device with the Alpine XM Radio?

Hummertime 11-06-2003 01:49 AM

soundgate website says it will allow you to control pioneer or kenwood xm tuner with the factory radio. is this true?

Bone stock but dreamin!

Dreadnought 11-06-2003 10:59 AM

Thanks! Finally!

I've tried to order this product from the US, but no-one seems to be able to ship overseas e.g. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/logjam/soundpiogm1.html

No wonder Japan owns half the nation ;-) - kidding!

Seriously though: Anyone have a link to another webshop?

Klaus 11-06-2003 01:06 PM

Here are a couple of good links about the Pioneer adapters:

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/PIOCDRB10

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/PIOCDRB20

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

Klaus 11-06-2003 01:33 PM

More good links:

http://www.xmfan.com/viewtopic.php?t...ghlight=piogm1

http://community.webshots.com/album/97147029DWQwHo

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

Klaus 11-06-2003 01:43 PM

From the XM board:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>r_putman@soundgate.com

Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:26 pm Post subject: PIOGM1 thank you

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Just a quick note to all XM fans to say "Thanks" for the overwhelming support of our new PIOGM1, GM to Pioneer/XM interface. We shipped our first pieces to a retail outlet in Arizona on October 15, and the response has been incredible.

I'd like to clear up a few issues...
1. OnStar continues to work just fine with the installation of the PIOGM1.
2. PIOGM1 can operate Pioneer changer only, XM receiver only, or can do both at once.
3. PIOGM1 can be used as a simple AUX input device.
4. PIOGM1 works in virtually all 2004 GM vehicles with the "Band" button (excluding Cadillac sedans).
5. PIOGM1 works in most 2003 GM's, even though they may not be 'XM ready'.
6. On factory systems where the radio includes a "Band" button, and the vehicle is equipped with a factory CD Changer, the CD Changer will continue to work.
7. Factory radios that do NOT have a "Band" button and do have a factory changer will have to have the factory changer disconnected (this is just a few car models).

IMPORTANT...
8. There is a text issue with the Pioneer 910 receiver. We know about this problem, and are taking the steps necessary to correct the manner in which the text displays. This interface will be called "PIOGM1V2", and will be available in about three weeks (app. Nov. 15).

This isn't a sales pitch, I just wanted to clear up some issues that I've read about in the posts.

Thanks again,
Rob Putman
SoundGate <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

hinten 11-07-2003 01:10 AM

Makes me so happy I peed a little in my pants.

TouchdownTN 11-07-2003 03:20 PM

Aces Full, I have looked everywhere on the net, Pioneer's web site, and called around Knoxville and can't find a IP-Bus to RCA converter that has 2 sets of RCA inputs. How do you accomplish getting 2 sets of RCA inputs? Not questioning if you really have 2 sets, just wondering how I can also accomplish this. I was wanting to get a XM sat set up such as the SkyFi or Roady, and also a MP3 device and have both of thes plugged in all the time. If anyone knows how to do this please post. Thanks everyone for your help, and if anyone does this mod please provide some pics for those of us not mechanically inclined! Thanks,

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Klaus 11-07-2003 05:37 PM

How about a guess. One of each:

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/PIOCDRB10

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/PIOCDRB20

PIOGM1 --> PIOCDRB20 --> PIOCDRB10

JUST A GUESS!

Of course, you could buy the Pioneer XM Module. The advantage is that the GM radio would control and display the XM.



Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[This message was edited by Klaus on 11-07-03 at 11:46 AM.]

Patriot 11-07-2003 05:45 PM

Damn Klaus...behind the dash sure is getting crowded...

"Da shin bone connects to the....."

mseeliger 11-07-2003 05:48 PM

The Soundgate (not Soundscape) PIOMG1 is on back order from Soundgate. Does anyone know who stocks this part? Also, I need a part number for the "IP bus to RCA adapter from Pioneer."

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Klaus 11-07-2003 05:55 PM

These are both Pioneer IP bus adapters:

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/PIOCDRB10

http://www.sounddomain.com/sku/PIOCDRB20

The CD-RB20 has a IP bus passthrough, and the CD-RB10 does not. It just depends on what you want to do as to which one you want.

Also, I'd wait for V2 of the Soundgate adapter.

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

[This message was edited by Klaus on 11-07-03 at 12:16 PM.]

hinten 11-07-2003 10:43 PM

The partnumbers you need to order are:
PIOGM1
and
PIO/P-RCA

The last piece will allow you to connect any RCA in to the AUX input.

aces full 11-08-2003 12:25 AM

TOUCHDOWN, TN.....go to the Soundgate link, and contact tech support. they can answer your questions better than I.....and they'll have both parts that you need, assuming they're not backordered. They're good guys, and answered all questions I had.
The parts were not in stock when I called, but I gave them a credit card over the phone, and about 10 days later, everything arrived.

good luck

'03 Black H2, fairly dressed up
'00 Black Mercedes S430
'03 Mineral Grey Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Ford Excursion
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

Erod 11-11-2003 10:56 AM

HI,

OK, I ended up buying the Kenwood Keg 20gb.
So Now I am waiting for soundgate to come up with the adapator so I can hardwire in to the OEM headunit. In the mean time I ran in to the PIE WEBSITE and I saw this. PIE ADAPTOR
What do you guys think. Do you think this will work? and If it does Which one should I choose?. Thanks for your input

Erick

Klaus 11-11-2003 12:27 PM

I don't think the PIE adapter will work. IIRC from my reading, the PIE adapters require an EXISTING external GM changer to tap into.

Please call them to be sure.

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

aces full 11-11-2003 12:27 PM

I can tell you for a fact that the Soundgate works. The first unit listed on the PIE website says that it doesn't work w/ONSTAR. I'd wait for the Soundgate!!!!!

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'00 Black Mercedes S430
'03 Mineral Grey Powerstroke Diesel 4x4 Ford Excursion
'02 Black Honda Goldwing

Erod 11-11-2003 12:53 PM

Thanks for the fast reply!! Man I am sure learning alot from you guys . and I will follow your suggestions and wait until soundgate comes out with the new interface for the OEM. I spoke to

Scott B. Helton
765-644-1251 ofc.
scott@logjamelectronics.com

and I was told that soundgate will ship the New improved Interfaces in 15 days. So I will keep you posted. l8r

Erick

Klaus 11-12-2003 12:57 AM

Email today from Soundgate:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>From: Rob Putman
To: Klaus
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: PIOGM1V2


It should be just a couple of weeks.. we're testing this week.
I'll send you an email when it is finished.
Thank you.

Best Regards,
Rob Putman
President, SoundGate
ph: 307-674-4707 (ext 206)
fx: 866-674-4819
r_putman@soundgate.com
www.soundgate.com
m-f 8am - 5pm mst
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

Klaus 11-12-2003 09:54 PM

Update on the Logjam Electronics website:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>NOTICE: (11/012/03 7:30am) Logjam Electronics and Soundgate are out-of-stock on the PIOGM1. Soundgate has indicated that they will have the new release PIOGM1V2 before the end of November, which means we will have it by the end of November also. Once we receive more inventory from Soundgate, we will ship all existing backorders that day, and then if there is any inventory left, we will place it in our website inventory for any new orders that come in. If you want to get on the waiting list, place your order now! Remember, Logjam Electronics never charges your credit card until the order actually ships!
- - Logjam Electronics Management

The Soundgate PIOGM1V2, an update from the original PIOGM1, addresses the text issue with the Pioneer 910 receiver and corrects the manner in which the text displays. Like the PIOGM1, the "V2" allows you to either add a Pioneer 6 or 12 disc P-Bus CD Changer and/or add a Pioneer XM Satellite receiver, or use the device as an auxiliary input converter in certain 2001 - 2004 General Motors factory radios (see specific application list below). The PIOGM1V2 utilizes sophisticated microprocessor control and advanced software design to flawlessly match the Pioneer CD changer and/or XM Tuner to the GM factory audio systems. Includes factory-match connectors for fast, easy installation. Compatible with the Pioneer CDX-P670, P650, P630 and PD6(in-dash) 6-disc IP-Bus CD changers as well as the CDX-P1270, P1250 and P1230 12-disc IP-Bus CD changers. Also compatible with the GEX-P900XM and GEX-FM903XM XM Tuners.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/soundpiogm1.html

Klaus

"God made some men big and some men small, but Sam Colt made them all equal."

PARAGON 11-13-2003 12:51 AM

I found these after a search, they have to wait on the PIOGMV2 also, but the price seems good:

Soundgate PIOGM1 For Pioneer 6 or 12-disc CD changers and XM Satellite Radio Tuner to late model Chevrolets $90.97


Pioneer CD-RB10 COMPACT DISC ADAPTOR $28.26

hinten 11-13-2003 01:23 AM

Check this iPod cupholder out, that should fit right in the H2.Belkin


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