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PARAGON 05-12-2006 07:31 PM

No more H1
 
It's official now and has been publicly announced.

DETROIT - If you want a big Hummer, you?d better get it now.
The 2006 model year will be the last for the H-1, the hulking, gas-guzzling status symbol that has attracted celebrities and off-road enthusiasts but has drawn the ire of environmentalists.
General Motors says it will no longer make the H-1, based on the military?s Humvee. It?s the foundation for the automaker?s Hummer brand, but GM expects it will build the last one next month.
The H-1 has attracted well-heeled drivers looking for a military-style vehicle with an intimidating stance. For the 2006 model year, the H-1 was offered as a high-performance H-1 Alpha that costs between $130,000 and $140,000.
Hummer general manager Martin Walsh says Hummer plans to focus on models with broader appeal instead of the niche-market H-1.
Since taking over the Hummer name in 2000, GM has introduced the still-hefty H-2 and a midsize H-2 sport utility vehicle.

PARAGON 05-12-2006 07:39 PM

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Hulking Hummer H1 headed for end of the road

Associated Press


DETROIT -- The 2006 model year will be the last for the Indiana-built Hummer H1, the hulking, gas-guzzling status symbol that has attracted celebrities and off-road enthusiasts but has drawn the ire of environmentalists.

General Motors Corp. announced plans today for the H1, which is the foundation for the automaker's Hummer brand. Based on the military's Humvee, the about 12,000 put on the road since 1992 defined the Hummer name.

"It's a reflection of where we're going with the Hummer brand," Hummer general manager Martin Walsh said of the decision. "The Hummer DNA still resides in the Humvee. ... It will always be the core from where we come."
GM expects the last H1s to be built next month.

Walsh said Hummer plans to focus on models with broader appeal instead of the niche-market H1. Since taking over the Hummer name in 2000, GM has introduced the still hefty H2 and a midsize H3 sport utility vehicle.
The H1 gets about 10 miles per gallon, but Walsh said rising gas prices didn't factor into GM's decision. He noted that H1 buyers typically have been less sensitive about gas prices than most other drivers.

The H1 attracted well-heeled drivers looking for a military-style vehicle with an intimidating stance. For the 2006 model year, the H1 was offered as a high-performance H1 Alpha that costs about $130,000 to $140,000.
The vehicle first was marketed to the public as the Hummer in 1992 by AM General, which also makes the military version. Under a 1999 deal, GM bought marketing rights to the Hummer name and called the vehicle the Hummer H1.

Last year, GM sold 374 H1s, down 16 percent from 447 in 2004.
AM General, which builds the H1, H2 and Humvee in Mishawaka, Ind., said in a statement that it doesn't plan to cut any jobs as a result of the decision. GM said workers there were expected to be shifted to military production.

ree 05-12-2006 07:45 PM

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Sad :(. I suppose this is going to result in higher prices in the used H1 market as well as higher maintenance costs due to dwindling supply of parts.

H2Oguy 05-12-2006 07:56 PM

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I guess my goal of getting a new one in 07 is out of the question now

ROX 05-12-2006 07:57 PM

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SHOOT! :( I was hoping to get a new one someday. I wish they'd drop the price a little to get rid of inventory.

Aubs 05-12-2006 08:10 PM

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I guess we should have seen this coming... Well, so much for getting one. They'll be investments now.

PARAGON 05-12-2006 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilD
You may find a new '06 still on the lot in '07 ;)

or '08. Some dealers might "add value" to some to gouge those that's willing to pay whatever.

Bishop 05-12-2006 08:23 PM

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This can't be good to the overall Hummer name.......:(

KenP 05-12-2006 08:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilD
I saw the press speculating on this a few weeks ago, but didn't think they'd be dropping the H1 this quick. I thought they'd keep it as the flag ship Hummer.

X2, so did I. How many Maybach's are sold each year?:(

Aubs 05-12-2006 08:44 PM

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Maybe we'll get lucky and the H1 will actually drop in price if interest is low (which current sales might show). So in the next five years, you might be able to pick them up cheaply, and then I suppose after that they may start to appreciate in value. Hard to say though.

Perhaps GM will release a new H1 in 2010 area, and make the next H2 a little cheaper, maybe around $45,000 starting price. Then they could place an H1 at $60,000 where it might be more appealing price wise. The only problem: What platform would GM build the H1 on? I think it would be hard to retain it's off-road prowess on most platforms. I suspect though that something will fill the H1 slot eventually. It would seem odd to leave that flagship spot open. However, the platform will have to be something shared with GM I suspect, otherwise design and production would be too expensive to make a profit....

That's just my theory.

vador99 05-12-2006 09:43 PM

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WHATTTTTTTTTTTT!

DDWH 05-12-2006 09:53 PM

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DAMN!!!!!:mad: Doesn't make since, even if the numbers have declined some. They are still moving and with that kind of a price tag, its not an everyday purchase!

trashguy 05-12-2006 09:59 PM

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that really dosent make sense,oh well i guess we own the "Big" hummers now;)

MovinH2 05-13-2006 12:25 AM

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That sucks. Stupid tree huggers. :( :(

Andy C 05-13-2006 01:56 PM

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Whooo hoooo - bought one just in time :) :) :) :)

GeneseeMtn 05-13-2006 05:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy C
Whooo hoooo - bought one just in time :) :) :) :)


I owned a LR D-90 when Land Rover discontinued importing them. They went up ~$5k in a very short time & kept creeping up from there. Even 10 years later, they still sell for more than the original sticker price. The latter year production in stock condition still fetch the highest price.

I imagine the H1 story will be the same. Snatch them up while you can. Lower cost used H1's will be a thing of the past very soon. If I had a dealership, I'd raise the $140k sticker priced ALPHA H1 (that I would have sold for $115k yesterday) to at least $150k today.

HummBebe 05-13-2006 05:15 PM

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This is very sad. The H1 one is the sole reason for the existence of the H2 and H3:(

It's kind of like losing your Grandpa.:(:(:(

DRTYFN 05-13-2006 05:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
This is very sad. The H1 one is the sole reason for the existence of the H2 and H3:(

It's kind of like losing your Grandpa.:(:(:(


Or your obese cousin.:D

Aubs 05-13-2006 05:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Or your obese cousin.:D

Hahahaha.:o

Aubs 05-13-2006 06:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneseeMtn
I owned a LR D-90 when Land Rover discontinued importing them. They went up ~$5k in a very short time & kept creeping up from there. Even 10 years later, they still sell for more than the original sticker price. The latter year production in stock condition still fetch the highest price.

I imagine the H1 story will be the same. Snatch them up while you can. Lower cost used H1's will be a thing of the past very soon. If I had a dealership, I'd raise the $140k sticker priced ALPHA H1 (that I would have sold for $115k yesterday) to at least $150k today.


Personally, I think this is what we can begin to expect in the short term...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Hummer-H1-ALPHA-Z9163-NEW-CONDITION-ONE-OWNER_W0QQitemZ4640055609QQcategoryZ5360QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2006-Hummer-H1-not-H2-or-H3-Soft-Top-MUST-SEE-HUGE-NEW_W0QQitemZ4637975924QQcategoryZ5360QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

Longhorn 05-14-2006 09:31 PM

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Damn! Now the Duramax versions are going to become really tough to come by.

I'm disappointed Hummer didn't keep the H1 around just for branding and nostalgia.:mad: GM is losing $ like crazy anyway.

Longhorn 05-14-2006 11:15 PM

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One last photo. We'll miss you big guy!:(:(:(

MDimitri 05-15-2006 02:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DRTYFN
Or your obese cousin.:D


Damn...that was my absolute all time favorite vehicle...loved it from the first time I saw it...albeit, this could be a fancy pull the wool over your eyes marketing ploy....create a demand, force market prices higher, wet peoples appetites come out with a ass kicking new version of the H1. Why the heck would GM put all that cash into developing the H1 Alpha (OMG What a awsome truck), just to pull the plug on the entire line??? Well they sure will be now focusing on the H2's alot more as being their next top of the line vehicle, I've heard of the H2 Alpha being a real possibility and an H3 version not far behind. Maybe the H2's will start going back up in price!!

Hey GM guy's, stop production on the H2's! Muhahahahahahahaa!!! :D

Adam in CO 05-15-2006 03:49 PM

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The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.

ckhagman 05-15-2006 03:57 PM

Re: No more H1
 
MB did it with the Galandewagen then decided to still sell it after people complained.

ckhagman 05-15-2006 03:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam in CO
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.


Parts are easliy available through other means. Most parts are off the shelf. Now interior parts are a whole other thought. The arm rests are jeep though.

Aubs 05-15-2006 05:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam in CO
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.


If I were to buy one now, I'd probably get a few parts like:
Drivers seat and armrest
Heavily used switches (windows, locks, etc)
2 door handles
Maybe a new open top roof for those models

Anyone think of something else?

ckhagman 05-15-2006 05:58 PM

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Unless you are buying an 04 or 06 model your local friendly jeep dealer would have arm rests. The seats are made by isrihausen (sp?). Inside and outside door handles are probably available from a trucking supply house. I hummer top yup I would probably buy one of them. Switches I bet could be had with no problem.

If AM General continues to build fleet trucks like the Border Patrol then a lot of stuff that does not include creature comforts wouldn't/shouldn't be a problem. Mirrors, although small you could buy from your jeep dealer but they were the non powered ones.

Aubs if you really want an H1, I might be selling mine.

Aubs 05-15-2006 06:56 PM

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Yeah, mirrors might be good. I think a Key Fob would be a good idea too.

MovinH2 05-15-2006 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aubs
Yeah, mirrors might be good. I think a Key Fob would be a good idea too.



Key Fob would be awesome.

Alan06SUT 05-16-2006 04:34 AM

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This is really bad news IMO. Why stop production? Unless they are quitting the military versions as well, I dont see the logic. It can't cost them much to keep dressing a few up for civilian use? They already spent the cash to figure out how to get the duramax/allison in there, they may as well get a return on that investment even if they sell just 300 a year? WTF?

DDWH 05-16-2006 04:47 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan06SUT
This is really bad news IMO. Why stop production? Unless they are quitting the military versions as well, I dont see the logic. It can't cost them much to keep dressing a few up for civilian use? They already spent the cash to figure out how to get the duramax/allison in there, they may as well get a return on that investment even if they sell just 300 a year? WTF?


X2 Alan! My thoughts exactly...I mean they are moving 400+/- units a year in a high end specialty market. They are not going to ever move thousands of units in that market nor is any other manufacturer. I think its completely asnine to kill it and a huge mistake on GM's part.

GeneseeMtn 05-16-2006 05:53 AM

Re: No more H1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam in CO
The bad news is that GM will only have parts and service for 7 years after they stop production. An H1 is the kind of vehicle you would hold on to for a while, especially if the discontinue it. I would want to know about other parts/service resources before pulling the trigger to buy one now.


Adam - The good news is that back in 1979 during HMMWV production, the AMG engineers put together the HMMWV with a bunch of "mostly" american produced parts. The H1 is a "mutt" of sorts, made of parts readily available from many manufacturers. For instance...

Tranny...GM 4L80E
Engine...GM (the 6.5 td is on of the most mass prouced diesel engines ever)
Steering...Saginaw box (common on many RV's) FORD steering column
Transfer Case...New Process 242 (common amongst 90's 4x4)
Door Handles...Early Jeep Cherokee
Brake rotors/pads/calipers...AMC Eagle Wagon
Hood/Body& entire driveline...HMMWV mil. surplus (except doors)
Soft Top (GMA Cover or BesTop are mfr.'s)
Fuel Delivery...Stanadyne
CTIS...parts at most hardware stores

The full parts reference has been documented on www.amghummer.com

I'd guess the tough parts after 10 years will be the H1 specific interior parts (already have been discontinued in the tan/brown color). That's really the only part that AMG makes specific to the H1 that is not available on the HMMWV or made by another manufacturer or two.

CO Hummer 05-16-2006 02:04 PM

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Gee.....If they stop making the H1s, then it's going to get costly to maintain them. :D

PARAGON 05-16-2006 03:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneseeMtn
Adam - The good news is that back in 1979 during HMMWV production, the AMG engineers put together the HMMWV with a bunch of "mostly" american produced parts. The H1 is a "mutt" of sorts, made of parts readily available from many manufacturers. For instance...

Tranny...GM 4L80E
Engine...GM (the 6.5 td is on of the most mass prouced diesel engines ever)
Steering...Saginaw box (common on many RV's) FORD steering column
Transfer Case...New Process 242 (common amongst 90's 4x4)
Door Handles...Early Jeep Cherokee
Brake rotors/pads/calipers...AMC Eagle Wagon
Hood/Body& entire driveline...HMMWV mil. surplus (except doors)
Soft Top (GMA Cover or BesTop are mfr.'s)
Fuel Delivery...Stanadyne
CTIS...parts at most hardware stores

The full parts reference has been documented on www.amghummer.com

I'd guess the tough parts after 10 years will be the H1 specific interior parts (already have been discontinued in the tan/brown color). That's really the only part that AMG makes specific to the H1 that is not available on the HMMWV or made by another manufacturer or two.

I could SSOOOOO!!!!!! make some joke comments about the H1 in reference to how we H2 owners were received by the H1 crowd 3 years ago. About the rebodied Tahoe comments that were constantly made by the ignorant ones. I could say stuff again about the mixmaster manner in which the H1 has been built.

But I won't, suffice to say.... it'll be serviceable for years to come. I'm betting the internation HMMWV market will make parts readily available for years and years to come. Conversion companies reproducing H1 type components for overseas markets should keep a lot of things available.

CO Hummer 05-16-2006 04:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilD
You mean it's cheap now :rolleyes: ;)


Sarcasm, my friend. ;)


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