If GM made the H2 instead of AM General
 

How upset would you be?

I really like having a truck made in Indiana where 51 families gave up their homes so the town could get a brand new factory...

...and i know the H2 was rushed way-to-fast into production, but that is one fine truck they put together.

I voted "so pissed i probably wouldn't buy another H2".

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:iagree: .......The H3 was a nice idea...but, as you see AM General didn?t build it....GM did. I hate when a company lowers itself, just to draw more attention. Like Jeep coming out with a Non-off road mid-size SUV....wtf? Or Porsche for making a SUV...WTF?? Have the balls, to stick to what you do right...

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why does it matter? still same vehicle and same way of production. Does GM own the H2 design and is it incharge of everything except building, or does it just own the logo?

I dont see what the difference is, someone point it out, or is it just one of those things that feel right?

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I think for being designed by GM, the H3 is pretty excellent off-road. It could be better, but they did a rather good job. I'd prefer that AM General kept building the H2 though. I like to say that to people when they ask about the vehicle.

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i understand where you are coming from, marin. But its a cool story, a little closer to the roots of the hummers, and i think that factory really meant something to the town it was built in, and it would be a shame for GM to send production to mexico city to save 20 bucks. I'd rather just pay the 20 bucks extra and get a truck made in indiana.

This wasn't an H3 thing, i wasn't knocking H3s.

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:iagree:

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The H2 is built by AMG but the manufacturing practices and design are all GM.... originally AMG didn't want to much automation in the bodyshops and therefore the first few batches of trucks weren't all they consistent causing all kinds of problems.... now they are much more automated and producing much better vehicles.... but all in all, its 75%GM and 25% AMG for the H2.... The H3 is a different story... one that I am not totally familiar with....

Scott
'01 HMCO

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correct, and in addition, GM has a large contingent of engineers at AMG who are in with AMG in the production of the H2, and they also have a contingent for the H1 (not anymore) and the Hummvee since they also use a large portion of GM parts. However, except for the H2, they are support only. H2, they are basically more than support.
There is also a fairly large group of service engineers at AMG to monitor the vehicles and work on any required service fixes, and relay that info to the GM tech center for finalization.

Then you have people like me who support the H2 and H3 while living in the arm pit of the world; MI.:D Except I support future product, and very little with current product.

The H3 is totally GM; designed, supplied out for parts, and built at a 100% GM facility in Shreveport, LA.

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hey fellas,

this isn't about H1s or H3s, just H2s. The thread is not treading on "real hummer" "original" , and it isn't at all about ripping on H3s for being "all GM".

I know GM is in a bit of a corner, and i support them (GM), and frankly i think they are rapidly closing (to closed) ground between their products and whatever imports or competitors you might wish to consider... and alot of how they can save money is getting out of union stranglehold, and moving production to mexico is good and yada yada yada. I just really like having a truck made in Indiana. Hence the question.

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One thing I really love about the "HUMMER" name is that it’s different; it was built by a company that the army believes would produce the best military vehicle. The H1 is strong, powerful and certainly BIG. Which make the H1 the coolest SUV (if you can call it that) on this planet? Coming in second place is the H2, still continue with the tradition of Hummer by making it BIG, powerful (not fast) and strong. But with a few added amenities that the H1 does not have. Both are amazing looking as well as every little kids dream.

Final the H3, well I'm not going to go there as most of you know how I feel about the H3. But I will say, it's not bad...but I believe HUMMER should have never let GM build this version. And GM will continue to ruin the name of HUMMER.

Just my two cents......and yes, this tread isn't about the H1, H2, or H3..But about, what again?????

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If you would read the title or the post above you, you would see this thread is about the H2. But, like you do with all your posts you bring the H3 into it because you are obviously threatened by it.

You know... for someone who bought their first Hummer only about a month ago, didn't give two shits about the company prior and probably didn't even know what an H3 was until joining this board, you sure think you are quite the Hummer expert, don't you? :confused: :lame:

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I really don't like seeing the H3 bashed by H2 drivers. Leave elitist assininity for that certain element of the H1 crew.

There is no question that the H3 is the best hummer in some ways. Gearing, an interior that will be considerably less prone to rattles over time than its big brothers, and mileage come to mind. I wouldn't hold it against anybody if they liked the styling better than the other 2, its cleaner and less absurd, and the leather seated interiors w/contrast piping are sweet. I don't think its a stretch to say their premium sound is the best sound system in any of the trucks either. There's really nothing bad to say about the H3.

I probably won't ever have one, maybe. For me if they stopped making the H2, i may never have another hummer. I'm sure some H1 guys felt the same about the H2. Whatever.

The H2, to be fair, has some advantages over the H3 as well. Clearance (and hugely so between the wheels), smoother ride, more useable interior room, more attractive interior styling (personal opinoin), a far smoother/more tucked up underbody, and it has no peer (H1 guys may say the H1 is its superior) in the panache department. No other vehicle at any price would make me grin like a 6 year old kid on christmas every morning, or make me sneak out of work to chuckle at its muddiness or its chrome glinting in the sunlight.

But griping at the H3 is both a bit silly (as there really is no justifiable reason to insult the truck), and probably counterproductive.

How many H2 buyers got their truck, loved it, and dreamt of having an H1? probably 1/3 to 1/2. What percentage of those can afford an H1? Probably 90%. What percentage of that 1/3 to 1/2 actually acted on it? Probably <5%

why? maybe the H1 just didn't have enough to offer, but maybe... all the crybaby crap hurled at H2s from the H1 camp just put people off. I'd have already bought one if i hadn't gotten so sick of reading that junk. Maybe a more positive 'tude from that crowd and we'd still have big, gnarly, military hummers as an option.

Dude, and all you AE or whatever H3 flamers, just don't make the H2 guys that lame. Have a coke and a smile and enjoy your truck.

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Why do you continue to be a pain in my ass....and I've been involved with the hummer corporation since 1997.

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:lame: H3's Rock!!!! , dont be a hater :p


Hummers = :beerchug:

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the H1 is a parts bin truck to a great extent also. it had to be. no company the size of AMG can reach back adn completely, from scratch, build a small # of 100% unique machines.

The question was one of assembly, not of parts origin or "purity", etc.

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No on the door Handle, it was MFG by AMG for GM, and yes it has many GM parts on it.........I KNOW THAT!

What I said was they stuck with the idea of producing a BIG, MEAN LOOKING BIG BLOCK, NO AERO-DYNAMICS......

And you H3 owners....piss off I wasn't bashing your precious baby, merely stating an opinion about the three HUMMER'S.:twak:

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i wasn't aware of such a policy, but i'm checking the rulebook. :D


The H1's parts-bin origin is something that i think its fair to observe from time to time. To read dedicated H1 forums would lead one to believe that the truck was hewn from a solid slab, by very manly men, of manhood itself, with no other ingredient.

lol

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My apologies for not rolling over and making this experience easy for you. If you are going to act like a Hummer hating troll, I'm going to treat you like one. Don't like it? Go **** yourself, no one is forcing or even asking you to express your opinion about the H3 in every thread. Listen to your fellow H2 owners.

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:lame:

You know I think you need a great big hug (:grouphug: )


And I don't hate HUMMER'S H1 OR H2 .........Just that little thing you drive ......what's the name........H3

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X2 -- the plant opening was a huge deal, creating more jobs for a city that wasn't exactly known for manufacturing and a source for new jobs (at least since the early 1900s with industrial companies like Uniroyal, which had been abandoned and was imploded some years ago)...it puts them on the national/global map for something the city can be proud of...I'd be pretty disappointed to see them take production elsewhere, but I couldn't see why they would -- the plant can keep up with production (in some cases they have to slow down because demand has lowered), the plant is still 'new' when compared to some of the old MI plants, is centrally located for U.S. distribution, and they aren't in an expensive part of the country by any means...I wouldn't even worry about them moving it...and I don't think we'd see many differences if the factory worker's paychecks said GM or AMG, and neither would the workers...

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Hate to break it to you, but that H3 is a Hummer. You hate it, that makes you a Hummer hater, my statement remains accurate.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=19940

'nuff said. ;)

Re: If GM made the H2 instead of AM General
 

Very logical to me...:iagree:

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What that's it........Only 24 people hate me......:lame:

question: Does that make up the entire H3 population?


And can't we all just get alone....":grouphug: "

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Actually that's 82.76%, and polls on here are a pretty accurate representation of the global population.

I'm going to assume you meant get along. Sure, why not? If you go back to school, grades 1-12 and pass (sort of like a Billy Madison thing). And you learn to comprehend what you type/say/think/believe, I'll give that get along thing some thought.

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I just want to say I love all you Hummer owners :grouphug: and all of you guys fighting is giving me an upset stomach. :crying:I've got to get some Tums............................Ok I'm back. I just wan't to say in closing that my '03 was built by AM General so "DE-DE-DE":D

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:iagree:

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:iagree:

And for the record I'm not fighting. Tex_h2 is simply my semester project for my psychology class, it's on elitism and posers. ;)

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:jump: :lame:

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:iagree:

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I didn't vote:D, and I won't vote, since I try to get along. However, from reading your posts, it does appear you are a Hummer hater. Maybe in your mind you only hate H3s, but those are Hummers, whether you like it or not.
So yes, can't we all get along, but to do that, you have to stop hating one of the Hummer models.:D
On the other hand, I don't care, it's a free country. Not everyone is going to like the H3, as not everyone is going to like the H2, H1, Corvettte, Viper, etc.

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Ok, answer me this...Why does someone have to be a hater if he dislikes a certain brand or make?

Does it really bother you that I dislike H3?

Does it really matter either way??

So, what you are saying is that I need to Love H1, H2 and H3 and whatever they plan on making next, just because I own a Hummer is that what you are trying to say?

Because, in that case this place isn't a group or a forum, but rather a "CULT"

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I don't want to sound like I am knocking the H3 but in my eyes there is no comparison between the H3 and the H2. My H2 was recently in for normal service and I was given an H3 to use for the two days. The H3 definitely does not have adequate power for me, and I felt like I had to stand on the gas pedal to keep up with traffic leaving a red light. I also could not see any button for a rear locker. Don't know if it has one or not.

I have wheeled all my life except for the last few years due to family issues (money), but I have found the H2 to be suited excellent (from the factory) for off road use. Many argue it's rough on gas. Well yes it is. But so was any truck I owned way before the H2. Hey, maybe I am old (44) and think my H2 is an awesome piece if factory machinery. Well I do. But let's keep it that way. No Chevy dealer making an H2. I'll have to move on then. But if things stay the same as now another NEW H2 purchase is on the horizon for me.

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Real quick I would like to point out that I did take the loaner H3 off road and found that the turning radius and the smaller size to be good. However I am still stuck on my H2.

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Thanks, its nice to hear someone else comment on the H3 not be all that wonderful.

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There is a difference between dislike and hate. You're consumed by hatred over an inanimate object, it's in every one of your posts. If a topic has nothing to do with an H3, you bring it in (ie: this thread), to compensate for whatever, it would appear to be money and class IMO.

I'm sure there are many people on this forum that may dislike something about one or more of the H's (Gunzz right there for example), but they aren't dumb and get all worked up and actually put in the effort to hate a vehicle like you. We leave that to the jeepers and treehuggers to waste their energy on.

Not to mention, you are on a Hummer forum, genius. I personally don't give a **** if you like the H3 or not, but you piss, moan and fill the board with your hatred of it in every thread, if you expressed the same feelings about the H1 or the H2, I'd still be telling you this. I told you, if you are going to act like a troll, you're going to get treated like one. You just don't get it and it's very sad to have someone like you in the Hummer community.

And now for your response that demonstrates your lack of ability to comprehend.... :rolleyes:

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:violin: :twak: :OWNED: :p silly H2ers ;) the odd numbers rule

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Tex_h2, why do you enjoy being a prick? You say the H3 is ruining Hummers reputation. What about the H2 what that do to the Hummer rep for offroading when it was released. It went from a serious offroad machine to a bling fest (mostly because of hollywood), because thats what most H2 are bling machines, aside from the few offroaders in comparison to the general owner population. So why dont you lay off. I personally love the H1, H2 and H3.

dеiтайожни's poll results are clear of what people think of you, or at least the way you come accross online.

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Hey, why don't you just f--k off......I'm tired of listening to your almighty answers.....

"Im not worthy"