Road family went down was closed by gate.
 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16107451/

Road family drove down was gated closed 11/1 but vandals broke lock.

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I'm still in awe of the stupidity involved with the decision to go up a mountain road that was clearly marked as NOT being maintained in the winter and it was snowing heavily. What a way to buy the farm-:OWNED:by self.

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And now, they are blaming the rescuers....http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16109367/

It was tragic, but apparently his fault, he was driving and decided to leave the vehicle. Why is everyone now looking to blame someone else?

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That's because this is America and no one is responsible for their actions.:mad: That lodge was actually checked several times and was CLOSED.

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careful what you say around here or they will start blaming you:giggling:

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He was an editor for CNet! Why didn't he have GPS navigation?

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Yeah really. Some sort of technological device would have helped A LOT. He was a senior editor too, so it's not like he was some peon that wasn't making any money.

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Un-fawking-believable. :rant: :rant:

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x2:(

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Probably DRTY looking to do some snow wheeling, because he's a straight up Thuggin Vandal!:D J/K

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fixed:fdance:


If he would have just stayed with the car... and NOT burned the tires so they could have driven out when the snow melted like it did.:rolleyes:

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You idiot. It's not like they had a 5 day supply of Propel. They had to stay warm.


Why don't you STFU and GTFO and help search for the 3 missing "Experienced" hikers on Mt. Hood.:OWNED:

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burning the tires was fine, since they ran the car out of gas for heat

6 days, no camp, no established fire and disable your only means for transportation. :OWNED:

FWIW, I probably would have done the same thing and suffered the same fate, OK, but I sure as hell would hope the media would not be making a martyr out of me like I did some heroic things when all I did was make a series of mistakes.

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FIRE!!!!!

even the caveman had it

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No. They went up there knowing it was going to be snowing hard- f*ck them. I'm not chomping at the bit to win a Darwin Award.

The rest of the article is here:
http://www.kgw.com/news-local/storie....1a09421e.html

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wait til the volcano melts the snows;) :giggling:

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Don't say that. Every time I go up to Timberline Lodge I think about what an unbelievable loss it'd be if we lost that place.
I do hope they get frostbite and are used as an example of why Nature owns humans.

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Gawd! Dicks/dog dicks/flea dicks/parasitic dicks= all of you- DICKS!!:twak:


I'm not explaining myself and I don't want to hear excuses- I have a headache. I just wanted to call you that. Don't even respond- if you do it's advisable you do so next week.;):D

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Well it's nice to hear that at least the holidays will be cheerful! ;)




Ken, Hold off on the pistol purchase for a little while.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man
Probably DRTY looking to do some snow wheeling, because he's a straight up E-Thuggin Vandal!:D J/K

[quote=DRTYFN]fixed:fdance:


What Up E-Thug Love!!!!:twak:

Rep Yo Set Homie!:giggling:

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Happy Holidays to you too!

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[quote=h2co-pilot]Gawd! Dicks/dog dicks/flea dicks/parasitic dicks= all of you- DICKS!!:twak:


I take it she likes teh DICK!:dancingbanana:

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I'm so happy!!!





I will.

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:eek: :eek:

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They announced today on CNN that Mr. Kim had actually hiked 16.5 miles, not the 10 originally first thought. :crying: No matter what anyone thinks, or who would have done it another way .. this man went out looking for aid for his family and died in the process. We don't need to dissect it .. what happened happened. I'm sure it's not what he was hoping for, for himself. :crying:

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How the fck do they know?

They've announced he was less than a mile from the car when he wasn't, they announced that he was alive just hours before he was found, he wasn't. THEY have announced all sorts of stupid crap about this that has been factless. For all we really know, he walked 2 miles and fell down a crevasse.

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/11/gri...gon/index.html

MERLIN, Oregon (CNN) -- We came to Oregon to retrace the path James Kim and his family took the day they got stranded in the Rogue River wilderness.

When we finally reached the spot where the Kim's car stopped after a long, winding journey, our traveling companions -- Sgt. Joel Heller, Josephine County Sheriff's office, and John James, owner of the Black Bar Lodge -- both had the same exact thought: Why did the Kims continue down such a desolate path when they so clearly did not know where they were going?

Though it is heart wrenching to question the decisions made by a man who died trying to save his family, it is hard not to wonder.

Three times, we passed large yellow signs warning that snow may completely block the roadway.

Eventually, we came to a fork in the road where a tiny sign -- almost invisible unless you actually stop the car and focus on it -- pointed the way to the Oregon Coast. The sign pointed left. The Kims drove right.

This was obviously the wrong direction. It was one lane, no guardrail, no markings, no "winding road ahead" signs, no speed limit signs, no nothing.

During our daylight journey, the road was so hazardous, so covered with snow and ice that a CNN satellite truck operator refused to continue, fearing the truck could go over the side.

The pavement began to break up, then turn to gravel, and finally to dirt.

This was an old logging road used only in summer by lodge owners hauling supplies. In winter, it was not generally in use.

In fact, beginning November 1 a gate usually blocked the road. Somebody must have broken the lock and left the gate open. Had it been shut and locked, the Kims could not have gone down the road at all.

But they did. Twenty miles down that desolate road, James and Kati Kim and their two young daughters found themselves stranded in the snowy wilderness.

By the time we came to the spot they stopped, our four-wheel-drive vehicle was being battered on both sides by overhanging branches and bushes.

This is where the Kims stayed for nine days, and the spot from which James Kim set off on foot on a journey into the Oregon wilderness that resulted in his death.

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Quoting the CNN story from above .. "
When we finally reached the spot where the Kim's car stopped after a long, winding journey, our traveling companions -- Sgt. Joel Heller, Josephine County Sheriff's office, and John James, owner of the Black Bar Lodge -- both had the same exact thought: Why did the Kims continue down such a desolate path when they so clearly did not know where they were going?

Though it is heart wrenching to question the decisions made by a man who died trying to save his family, it is hard not to wonder.

Three times, we passed large yellow signs warning that snow may completely block the roadway. " Yes, you have to wonder .. and dissect, WHY they chose to take a desolate path, especially with a very young child and a baby? You DO have to wonder, WHAT were they thinking? They HAD to know it couldn't have been a direct path to anywheres but a disaster. You're right, Paragon and Mrs.ssippi, these are the ways we learn .. ESPECIALLY of things NOT to do. I feel sorry for the family, but, you would think that between two grown adults, one of them would have had the sense to say, "WAIT!!!! What are we doing?!" Too late now. But, the rest of us know (or have known) what NOT to do.

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This is the part where CNN starts to blame someone else.

LMAO! And I think a cougar in the area took his shoes and left footprints all over the Mtn Side to make it LOOK like he walked 16 miles. yep

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Those big yellow warning signs are so ambiguous.:rolleyes::OWNED:

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considering the car was snowed in and he left in snow, it rained, etc etc. I want to know where these numbers keep popping up on how far he travelled.

If he walked 16 miles, why was he only a few miles from the car?

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I think you are giving them too much credit. I don't think they have a clue where he went or how far.

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WTF, there is wikipedia stuff for this?

Apparently they didn't know where the car was because some dude couldn't read a map.

He walked 10 miles down the road and then went into the canyon and backtracked 5 miles:confused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_K...te_controversy

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This could have been averted if they'd owned a Hummer.

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I guess the moral of this story is "Sometimes it is better to stay the fvck off the road less traveled" or "Man to stubborn to ask for directions becomes popsicle in the snow" or "Man with limp walks in circles" or "Don't wait 9 damn days before looking for help". Is it to early for jokes??

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I have a question. This isn't a knock, legit question.

A car like a Saab would average about 2 gallons a day at idle, idling constantly. It would have at least a 12 gallon tank or so.

I would assume they idled the car much more than we would be led to believe if they ran the car out of fuel, completely.

Why drain the fuel completely? Granted they would have burned some fuel driving to the point where they stopped, but undoubtedly they had a full tank to start with since they were trekking out into the unknown and had just came from an Interstate exit.

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Bad assumption. If they were stupid enought to turn off on that road, they were certainly stupid enough to leave without a full tank. Don't ya think?

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Are you kidding me?!?!?! They left an interstate? WTF???

I certainly hope there's a very good reason for that, or else my sympathy will be gone.:confused: