Originally Posted by MarineHawk I just got this email comparing my booty to Gibraltar, and it pissed me off. Here's the email: _________________ THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MOMENT. MarineHawk's booty is large - like Gibraltar. I hope this gets passed on. Maybe SOME people will get the message. The world does not like giant booties.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk And here's my response: ______________ My booty is NOT like Gibraltar. I hope you forward this message from me to everyone who received the previous email. There is already too much intolerance and selfishness in the world to promote this kind of bigotry and ignorance.

Originally Posted by PARAGON Don't let selfishness be a substitute for ignorance. In contrast, it's usually the opposite. Ignorance is usually a fertile breeding ground for selfless devotion to ideals that are full of bigotry and intolerance. One should truly fear the slightly intelligent whose selfishness drives them to promote their convenience at the expense of others. They are usually the start of the cancer that infects the ignorant.

Originally Posted by NJ H2 Very good Sir

Originally Posted by PARAGON Don't let selfishness be a substitute for ignorance. In contrast, it's usually the opposite. Ignorance is usually a fertile breeding ground for selfless devotion to ideals that are full of bigotry and intolerance. One should truly fear the slightly intelligent whose selfishness drives them to promote their convenience at the expense of others. They are usually the start of the cancer that infects the ignorant.

Originally Posted by NJ H2 I hope to get up there soon. I see Pops and a few others are goin to PAP on the 20th. I'd like to do run in March/April maybe back to Rousch Creek

Originally Posted by MarineHawk I agree, though I'm increasingly of the opinon that intelligence and emotional competence are completely unrelated. I think idealists are ignorant inasmuch as they skip the second of the two basic steps in analyzing things: (1) identifying an applicable theory; and (2) assessing its value by applying it pragmatically to real circumstances. For idealists (often liberals), the theory is the end unto itself. They completely skip any rigorous application of step 2. How many times in college did I hear the mindless regurgitation of such preposterous statements as (1) "In theory, communism is the ideal governmental system"; and (2) "It is better that 10,000 criminals go free than one innocent person be imprisoned." Number 1 is wrong, because the theory only works with machine-like being who do not have emotions or the need to continuing economic incentives. It does not, however, work with human beings. A social theory that does not work with humans has no value at all. Number 2 is ridiculous because 10,000 violent criminals going free would cause suffering and death by innocent people on a scale incomparable to one innocent person's regretable loss of freedom.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk I agree, though I'm increasingly of the opinon that intelligence and emotional competence are completely unrelated.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC Therefore there is a relation to some degree between intelligence and emotional competence.

Originally Posted by CO Hummer I slightly disagree. There is a lack of consensus about a general theory of competence, and therefore, little to guide researchers in selecting and evaluating dimensions of communicative or emotional competence. I find that literature consists of numerous proposed dimensions, but that few of these have undergone rigorous assessment and evaluation. I advocate combining knowledge of how to behave with actual performance in order to distinguish competence, and i argue that competence also implies standards of appropriateness and effectiveness.

Your drivel was anticipated.
To simplify for you as best as I can relate to a lower facimile of human life. Your argument enevitably points to the eternalquestion as to the general state of human nature.
Natural productions are generally formed by degrees.Vegetables grow from a tender shoot, and animals from an infant state. The latter being destined to act, extend their operations as their powers increase: they exhibit a progress, in what they perform, as well as in the faculties they acquire. This progress in the case of man is continued to a greater extent than in that of any other animal. Not only the individual advances from infancy to manhood, but the species itself from rudeness to civilization. Hence the supposed departure of mankind from the state of their nature; hence our conjectures and different opinions of what man must have been in the first age of his being. The poet, the historian, and the moralist, frequently allude to this ancient time; and under the emblems of gold, or of iron, represent a condition, and a manner of life, from which mankind have either degenerated, or on which they have greatly improved. On either supposition, the first state of our nature must have borne no resemblance to what men have exhibited in any subsequent period; historical monuments, even of the earliest date, are to be considered as novelties; and the most common establishments of human society are to be classed among the incroachments which fraud, oppression, or a busy invention, have made upon the reign of nature, by which the chief of ourgrievances or blessings were equally with-held. Among the writers who have attempted to distinguish, in the human character, its original qualities, and to point out the limits between nature and art, some have represented mankind in their first condition,as possessed of mere animal sensibility, without any exercise of the faculties that render them superior to the brutes, without
any political union, without any means of explaining their entiments, and even without possessing any of the apprehensions and passions which the voice and the gesture are so well fitted to express. Others have made the state of nature to consist in perpetual wars, kindled by competition for dominion and interest,where every individual had a separate quarrel with his kind, and where the presence of a fellow-creature was the signal of battle.The desire of laying the foundation of a favourite system, or a fond expectation, perhaps, that we may be able to penetrate the secrets of nature, to the very source of existence, have, on this subject, led to many fruitless inquiries, and given rise to many
wild suppositions. Among the various qualities which mankind possess, we select one or a few particulars on which to establish a theory, and in framing our account of what man was in some imaginary state of nature, we overlook what he has always appeared within the reach of our own observation, and in the records of history.

In every other instance, however, the natural historian thinks himself obliged to collect facts, not to offerconjectures. When he treats of any particular species of animals,
he supposes, that their present dispositions and instincts are the same they originally had, and that their present manner of life is a continuance of their first destination. He admits, that his knowledge of the material system of the world consists in a collection of facts, or at most, in general tenets derived from particular observations and experiments. It is only in what relates to himself, and in matters the most important, and the most easily known, that he substitutes hypothesis instead of reality, and confounds the provinces of imagination and reason,of poetry and science.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC he substitutes hypothesis instead of reality, and confounds the provinces of imagination and reason, of poetry and science.

Are you kidding me?

Originally Posted by CO Hummer Are you kidding me? There are at least three further good reasons for making provision for at least some students to write science poetry. First, Gardner suggested that we have at least seven different intelligences, where intelligence means the ability to solve problems or create products of value within a cultural setting: linguistic, logical-mathematical, visual-spatial, musical, bodily-kinesthetic, interpersonal or “social,” and intrapersonal or intuitive. He has recently added a naturalistic intelligence, and is working on a spiritual intelligence. Future successful adults will need to be resourceful and flexible, and use many of these different ways of being intelligent, or smart. For example, one can combine science with drama and music to create, in an audience, an increased awareness of how scientific discoveries are affecting, or may affect, our lives. :OWNED:

Originally Posted by DRTYFN I'm stupid so I don't get any of this.:jump::jump:

Originally Posted by DRTYFN I'm stupid so I don't get any of this.

Originally Posted by CO Hummer Stupidity is neither ignorance nor organicity, but rather, a corollary of knowing and an element of normalcy, the double of intelligence rather than its opposite. It is an artifact of our nature as finite beings and one of the most powerful determinants of human destiny. Like PhilD says, stupidity is always the name of the Other, and it is the sign of the feminine.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC What are your thoughts on emotional intelligence then?

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot MH, I really think we just need a picture of your butt to confirm the comparison.:D

Originally Posted by CO Hummer Are you kidding me? Gardner suggested that we have at least seven different intelligences ...: linguistic, logical-mathematical, visual-spatial, musical, bodily-kinesthetic, interpersonal or “social,” and intrapersonal or intuitive.

Don't forget the eighth and ninth intelligences: off-road tire placement and throttle control.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk I have no data, but within reasonable limits, I observe little if any correlation between intellect and emotional maturity (I?m obviously at the low end of the latter myself). More often, I see an inverse correlation. Some of the most pleasant, self-confident (the opposite of arrogant IMO) people I know are not the ones with whom I would want to discuss deep, complex intellectual issues. Of course, when you get into really low IQ's, you likely start to see a disproportionate amount of psychological problems. But, if you look at the part of the IQ bell curve containing 90% of people, I don't see a correlation. Like I said, I?m merely basing this on my own anecdotal observations. I work with a lot of highly-intelligent people, making pretty high salaries. But even their productivity in the work place, which has some significant correlation to intelligence, is probably more dependant on the person?s character than his or her intelligence. For example, I?ve consistently noticed that attorneys who grew up on farms are some of the most productive and useful I know. It?s because they consistently work through problems until they get the best resolution they possibly can find -- no matter how difficult the process is. That?s just one example. Many people with a non-agrarian background also have great work ethics. But, so many others simply focus on how much credit they think they will get and how they can ?complete? a project the most quickly and painlessly. Invariably, it affects their lives negatively because they are constantly fighting the ill impressions and disorganization their laziness yields. Many of these corner-cutters are very, very intelligent, but also very unproductive and probably fairly unhappy.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk If' I put a photo of my rear on here, some of the forensically-gifted people on here might be able to determine my identity. I'll let you extrapolate. Here's one of my little guy. And I'll just say the acorn didn't fall too far from the tree.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk For example, I?ve consistently noticed that attorneys who grew up on farms are some of the most productive and useful I know. It?s because they consistently work through problems until they get the best resolution they possibly can find -- no matter how difficult the process is. That?s just one example. Many people with a non-agrarian background also have great work ethics. But, so many others simply focus on how much credit they think they will get and how they can ?complete? a project the most quickly and painlessly.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk If' I put a photo of my rear on here, some of the forensically-gifted people on here might be able to determine my identity. I'll let you extrapolate. Here's one of my little guy. And I'll just say the acorn didn't fall too far from the tree.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk If' I put a photo of my rear on here, some of the forensically-gifted people on here might be able to determine my identity. I'll let you extrapolate. Here's one of my little guy. And I'll just say the acorn didn't fall too far from the tree.

Originally Posted by H2 Rocks Please, Sir, let us keep this thread on topic and provide us with evidence of said booty.

Originally Posted by MarineHawk Fortunately, no such photographic evidence exists.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC Looks like your son is destined for a white collar career. :beerchug: As a personal observation and quick calculations in my head, I've found 78% of children who choose to slide head first (as oppose to feet first), tend to migrate towards white collared careers. But this is just an assumption from one picture that your son likes to slide head first 83% of the time.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC That is just adorable! Like you, I enjoy the Father and sons play time.

Originally Posted by -=Mac=- Interesting discussion. Dennis, I haven't run across many people quote Ferguson. As you can tell from my signature, I tend toward Mill. -Mac

Originally Posted by DRTYFN That is a weird heinie.:jump:

Originally Posted by DennisAJC Was that who I cut and pasted from?:jump: