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DRTYFN 05-19-2007 06:20 AM

Dragonskin Body Armor
 
I wish that all our military personnel that need body armor could be outfitted with Dragonskin. The guy that developed the current body armor even says this Dragonskin is far superior to his stuff.
Watch the videos at the bottom of the page.

BlueHUMMERH2 05-19-2007 11:08 AM

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Not that I understand anything about caliber, but considering the info on the LEVEL V ballistics velocity is classified, this stuff must be able to withstand quite a bit of abuse. Pretty cool!

Ground hawg 05-20-2007 02:12 AM

Re: Dragonskin Body Armor
 
Saw it on Discovery chanel a couple o months ago, Future wepons. Did you see the one where he had the 9mm that put a hole strait through the cevlar helmet.

3Hummer 05-20-2007 04:51 AM

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saw it on discovery channel. And about soldiers having it, i put one on last week at the air and sea show and those vests are ridiculously heavy no way you would be able to run with that plus the other equipment. It only protects your chest and bakc and stomach areas all other areas are vulnerable and with that and not being able to run your just about garunteed to get shot. If you ever put one on youd understand why the soldiers dont wear em.

3Hummer 05-20-2007 04:53 AM

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and on the discovery channel threy put tha dragonskin laying on top of a live grenede and it didnt even break through

DRTYFN 05-20-2007 05:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Hummer
saw it on discovery channel. And about soldiers having it, i put one on last week at the air and sea show and those vests are ridiculously heavy no way you would be able to run with that plus the other equipment. It only protects your chest and bakc and stomach areas all other areas are vulnerable and with that and not being able to run your just about garunteed to get shot. If you ever put one on youd understand why the soldiers dont wear em.


Are you kidding? They're so much lighter than the vest the troops wear now.
http://www.pinnaclearmor.com/body-armor/dragon-skin.php

DRTYFN 05-20-2007 05:05 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 3Hummer
and on the discovery channel threy put tha dragonskin laying on top of a live grenede and it didnt even break through

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_HRQNd84ZA

dеiтайожни 05-20-2007 05:31 AM

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If they let me buy any... is anyone willing to shoot me to test it out?

Mr_Pat 05-20-2007 05:38 AM

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The stuff looks good. I have a flak vest with a front and rear lvl IV ballistics plate that I use for work. The plates are only good for more or less a direct hit. I like the fact that the dragonskin wraps around your body. Also a plate can only take a couple of shot till it starts to shatter. I have seen this first hand at the firing range. After a few shots the rounds pass through the plates like butter. Best of all its light weight.

Mr_Pat

HummerShane 05-20-2007 06:01 AM

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They should find a way to incorporate that into vehicle armor. That thing withstood a damn grenade!

f5fstop 05-20-2007 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни
If they let me buy any... is anyone willing to shoot me to test it out?



usetosellhummer 05-20-2007 03:06 PM

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Why don't our boys have it? i saw on tv they are not allowed to wear it.

bparker 05-20-2007 07:11 PM

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x2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ground hawg
Saw it on Discovery chanel a couple o months ago, Future wepons. Did you see the one where he had the 9mm that put a hole strait through the cevlar helmet.


BlueHUMMERH2 05-20-2007 07:46 PM

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Told my g/f in the Guard that if she's ever shipped out, she's getting it. Told me they wouldn't let her wear it because, "Everyone's supposed to be equal." Wouldn't surprise me if that is the rationale.

RuggedH2 05-20-2007 07:58 PM

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The jury is still out on it's performance.


http://www.defensetech.org/archives/003504.html

The Army and Marines have stated that it is not allowed as a replacement for the issued body armor. They have said you could wear it in addition to the issued body armor, but that isn't realistic.

bparker 05-21-2007 12:33 AM

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It was just on Dateline tonight and they showed that all the critics are politcally motivated as Dragonskin out performed all others on the show.

:excited:

h2co-pilot 05-21-2007 01:07 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни
If they let me buy any... is anyone willing to shoot me to test it out?


Yup.

Mr_Pat 05-21-2007 01:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bparker
It was just on Dateline tonight and they showed that all the critics are politcally motivated as Dragonskin out performed all others on the show.

:excited:

What a Govt contract that politcally motivated???? I dont belive it:confused:

DRTYFN 05-21-2007 01:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bparker
It was just on Dateline tonight and they showed that all the critics are politcally motivated as Dragonskin out performed all others on the show.

:excited:


Like I said, it's all about the payola. Both sides of the aisle are guilty of it.:mad:

Scouts Out 05-21-2007 01:54 AM

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PLease, the Army had a chance to buy a Anti-RPG system that shoots the RPG out of the air before it impact the vehicle. It is a tested and proven Isreali system but the Army decided to let a big contractor develope their own which will be ready in 8 years.... long time for those over seas to wait for help.

RuggedH2 05-21-2007 01:57 AM

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Dragonskin might work, I hope it does.

In order to meet the criteria it has to work in rain, cold, heat and sun, and resist a variety of chemicals, over a period of years.

They already know ceramic plates work, they are heavy and hot, but they have been proven to stop rifle velocity projectiles.

Hopefully Dragonskin or something similar is the future, but only if it is proven to work.

h2co-pilot 05-21-2007 02:06 AM

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The U.S. Army will defer spending and slow repair work on any equipment not needed for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan due to Congress' failure to approve $100 billion in extra war funding, the largest branch of the armed forces said on Monday.

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The Bush administration requested $100 billion in additional war funding but Congress has tied those funds to a deadline for withdrawing troops from Iraq.

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Reuters: Democrat Delays Already Harming Troops

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Bush shoved back hard, indicating no wiggle room on his postion for a bill that would fund American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan without a timetable for withdrawal

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Democratic leaders in Congress are bent on using a bill that funds our troops to make a political statement about the war

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"Instead of approving that vital funding, the Democratic leadership in Congress has spent the last 64 days pushing legislation that would undercut our troops just as we are beginning to make progress in Baghdad,?

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Additional orders cannot be placed until the disagreement over the war spending legislation is settled. That bill would give the Army ($1.2 billion), the Marines ($1.25 billion), the Navy ($154 million), the Air Force ($139 million) and special operations forces ($259 million) money to buy their own versions of the carriers, according to Bill Johnson-Miles, spokesman for the Marine Corps Systems Command. (Source: Army Times April 24, 2007)


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?We can build what we can get the funds to build. It?s strictly an issue of money,? Gen. Peter Schoomaker, former Army chief of staff, told a Senate committee last month.


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RuggedH2 05-21-2007 02:26 AM

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Many have already seen this, but the ceramic plates worked. He was shot with a Russian sniper rifle.

He survived and the towel heads were caught by members of the soldiers own platoon.

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2675852

DRTYFN 05-21-2007 02:30 AM

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Dateline is doing a piece on Dragon Skin tonight.

RuggedH2 05-21-2007 02:40 AM

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Drty

I have worn vests for years. A couple of years ago it came out that the vests everyone was wearing might not work after exposure to light and perspiration.

I took mine off right then and there and went and shot it (I have several of them). The bullets went right through. It was an eye opener! Half an hour before, I had been counting on it to protect me.

I hope NBC is fair, but I don't expect a balanced long term viewpoint from them. The media doesn't always do their homework correctly.

Whether it's Dragonskin or not, I want the politicians sitting safely in their offices to put gear that works in the hands of those doing the job!

If Dragonskin can protect these guys, and do it after prolonged exposure, they ought to have it.

DRTYFN 05-21-2007 03:22 AM

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That Brig. Gen. in charge of body armor is a douche.

RubHer Yellow Ducky 05-21-2007 12:26 PM

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At 7:16 am this morning the NBC Today show aired a 6 minute report about DragonSkin.

In "LIMITED" testing with unbias observers including a retired U. S. Army General the DragonSkin totally OUTPROFORMED the current U. S. Army body armor. It was an impressive report and they do say the testing was not under all types of test conditions...

But it makes you think....

Ground hawg 05-21-2007 12:29 PM

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I didn't know that body protection was standard issue in the US Millitery, I know it isnt for our guys in the UK. there have been so many deaths becouse of shortages of equipment. even one case of a guy who was told to give his armour to someone else who was supposedly in a higher risk possition and was then killed by a sniper within 48hrs of giving it up.

RubHer Yellow Ducky 05-21-2007 12:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ground hawg
I didn't know that body protection was standard issue in the US Millitery, I know it isnt for our guys in the UK. there have been so many deaths becouse of shortages of equipment. even one case of a guy who was told to give his armour to someone else who was supposedly in a higher risk possition and was then killed by a sniper within 48hrs of giving it up.


I hate to say it but the FREE WORLDS MILITARIES need to be increased in size and better outfitted.

AND

when threat levels drop, which one day they will, we still need to maintain their size and technology updating. OUR problem is that everytime the world calms down for a short period of time we decrease our Military Rediness, which winds up hurting us a little time later...

Vote for me for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and I will maintain and update the military, possibly reinstate the draft, get federal money into the pockets of law enforcement, fire fighters and CLASSROOM teachers in the U.S.

I will increase taxes a little. I will END ILLEGAL IMMAGRATION, for countries that don't want U.S. help I will make sure they don't get it...

I will POUR money into oil independence research and DEMAND results from those doing the research. I will increase nucular power in the U.S.

MORE TO COME>>>>>>>

MarineHawk 05-23-2007 03:09 PM

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See http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274439,00.html

The piece they did on Special Report on Fox News yesterday convinced me that NCB's special was so misleadingly designed to unfairly attack the current administration as to be worthless. Fox had current and former military personnel on exlpaining how the current military armor is better than Dragonskin for stopping 7.62 mm impacts and for hot environoments like Iraq, and how it is lighter and more comfortable in hot places, etc ...


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