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So I was pretty much ready to install a bodylift on my H2 so I could install a set of 40?s.

I talked to Travis just now and he said that installing a body lift on my truck would be a PIA because of the diesel conversion. The way the fan shroud sits on the radiator, the hoses, etc, etc...

So I was talking to Reggie who is patiently waiting to get his H2 back from Travis and he came up with a better idea.

Here?s what my truck looks like now.







The reason I wanted to install a 2? body lift was to get 40?s under it. The reason I wanted 40?s is because it looks to me like the tires are undersized.

I?m running 37?s (10x20) with a 24 offset. I?m wondering if running the same size tires on a set of 12x20?s with a 44 offset would fix my problem and give the truck a more aggressive look.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

Mark

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Do you have aftermarket keys on there now? Or just the rancho?

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Just the Rancho. I think I turned the stock keys up a few turns though.


Mark

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You might could go the truxxx lift route with keys and rear coil spacers..would lift it another 1"-1.5". Or maybe do a cognito UCA swap. I think that lifts the front some more too.

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I?ve got some rear coil spring spacers from an airbag setup I think.

I?m already running the Cognito UCA?s.

Perhaps I need to look into the truxx keys.


Mark

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The truxxx keys are very good..atleast i'm very pleased with mine. And it does pick the truck up a good bit, very good look over my stock setup. But with the way you're truck sits right now, you could very well put a mean set of 38's under there with those octanes you want. It'd look great with that. I'm pretty sure you could make 40's right now, but you'd have to have the correct backspacing/offset to cut it. It may looked stuffed to without the body lift..40's are enormous tires. haha

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i have 40" mud grapplers with 20" fuel octanes with the 44 offset and 15.5" wide tire. looks mean as hell! if you want pics let me know and i can text em to ya or what not. i dont know how to upload them and dont have any on my computer at the moment.

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Well, that?s weird... I responded to you with my phone number so you could text me but it?s not here... weird.

Anyway, text them to me.

(704) 882-1150

Thanks,

Mark

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So here?s the deal...

I ordered new kryptonite tie rod ends, new ball joints, new keys and spacers for the rear springs.

Turns out my wheels are 20x12?s already so I?m going to wait to see how much higher I get the suspension with the keys and order a set of the 40? Pitbull Rockers.

I spent an add?l 900 bucks getting a new steering box. Mine?s been leaking ever so small lately and it?s been harder and harder to steer.

We?ll see how it looks when the parts start to arrive.


Mark

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Mark, did you order the GM Green Keys or an aftermarket brand? I just ordered the Cognito Leveling kit myself but did not purchase the keys.

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I ordered an aftermarket set but made sure they were forged.

Mark

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That kit will get it leveled by itself...but I'd plan ahead 'cause sometimes those keys are a bitch to get out. If you think spacers are in your future, I'd do the keys while its at the shop for the UCAs.

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Thanks Brent. Should I go with the GM Green keys or Truxx? I hear the Green Keys give the same amount of lift as the aftermarket keys but at a cheaper cost. What rear spacers are you running in your H2?

BTW, my DMAXed H2 is supposed to be picked up tomorrow! Hallelujah

Thanks,
Reggie

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I have no preference on the keys...I've read the same as you, "both give the same amount of lift." I just happened to go with the Truxxx keys, but that's only because I didn't know about the GM Greenies.

I got the 1" Truxxx spacers for the rear.

RE: DMax...finally! I can't wait to hear it. Your Ford's gonna be jealous!

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Congrats Reggie, I know you?re jonesing to have that thing home. Did you go with the guy I went with? Or did they finally find someone?

If you?re going to order the keys, I?d go with the forged ones. I don?t know if it really makes that much difference but it?s not like they?re more money.

Also, if you?re going to order the keys, I?d buy the spacer kit too. (again, the whole damn kit is cheap... it?s not even a couple of hundred) if you?re going to want any increase in height.

I think I?ve decided I?m going to sell my tires only and use the wheels I?ve got (though wheels are only a grand, it?s the freakin? tires that are a killer)

The Open Country tires I have I think I priced the 40?s in the high 6 or low 700 range. That?s crazy! :mad:

I?m on my third set of Toyo?s and though they?ve been a great tire, I?m thinking I?m going with the Pitbull Rockers... they just look bad ass.


Mark

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Travis found someone off Central Dispatch. We jacked the price up to get some attention and it worked.

I feel you on keeping your existing wheels and buying new tires. I told you recently I was going to go for the fuel Octanes in a 20" but have since changed my mind again because of the cost of tires. I found a wheel with the offset I'm looking for 17x10 -25 and they were CHEAP! LOL I'm going to slap my 35x12.5 Toyo's on them and call it a day. When I sell the XD Revolvers it should be damn near a wash. I do like the look of those Pitbull Rockers as well. Have you talked to Andres about wear?

I ordered the GM Green Keys yesterday, and i'll probably get the 1" spacer from NORCAL where I purchased the leveling kit? Do I need to change the coil springs? When I purchased the Cognito Leveling kit it came with extended front and rear shocks so I'm good there.

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I understand... it?s tough coming up with the right combo.

No, no need to change coil springs. I?m glad you got it shipped.... I?ll bet you?re ready as hell.


Congrats.

Mark

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So what?s your thought?

I had decided to go with the 40?s once I get the lift installed. The 40?s basically come in 15.5 inches wide. I?m thinking since the 38?s also come in 15.50? wide, it would make them look much wider since they are the same width but shorter.


Right now, my 37?s Open Country?s are measuring 35.5? tall adn a set of 38?s are almost 38? tall. Point is, it would not only open up a larger choices (as opposed to the 40?s) but would still be almost 2? taller.

Thoughts?

Thanks,

Mark

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i was planning on going with the toyo 38x13.5x20 when i do my rancho lift. ive noticed not alot of guys running 38's. seems like its either 37's or 40's. whys that?

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Well, anything smaller than 37's is too small so that only leaves 37,8 or 40's... and most people can't run the 40's cause they still rub.

At that point, you're left with 37's or 38's, may as well go with the bigger ones.

I'll be selling my 37's if you need some Toyo's. Tread is exactly half left.

Mark

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is there a reason why no alot dont do 38's though? just limits the options? or is it something with rubbing?
and i would do the 37's but might as well get 1 more inch right?

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That's the problem in many cases... that "one more inch" sometimes rubs. (I tried telling my wife to rub it and she'd get one inch but oh well.... :D )

But yes, if you'e going to go to 37's, if you have the room, you may as well go to 38's.


Mark

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thats what i figured. and the rancho kit can fit up to 40's, so i figured id be ok with the 38. i dont forsee myself wanting 40's so ill stick with the 38's.

and yeah, i tell my wife the same thing:giggling:

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Also 38's and higher get harder and harder to balance..38's would look mean though. You should be able to fit them with the rancho. It mainly depends on the rim backspacing and offset.

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wheels are 4.5" backspacing and -25 offset.

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I've been through two sets of Toyo 38's without one issue of balancing. I actually spoke to a guy who worked at 4Wheel Parts, and he had the same tires, didn't balance them, and had no shake.

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That's good if you haven't, that's just going by what my local offroad installer said. But i think he can do it. I would rather have the extra inch with the 38's but either one would look fine. Are you going to 40's any time soon? ;)

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You can’t put 40’s on just the rancho kit. My last H2 had a fabtech and the torsion bars cranked up and I could only stick 38’s on it.

This H2 has the Rancho kit and my keys arrived today. I think I’ll get them installed and see if I can get my bigger tires installed.






Who are you asking if they’re going to 40’s?


Mark

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charles haha..You should be able to fit the 40's on yours. I know jonny did it but he said they rubbed slightly (that was the rancho, UCA, and truxxx lift stacked) so he got the 2" body lift to eliminate that. But that all could have come from his rims.

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I'm still on the fence right now. The truck drives so nicely as it sits. Plus, I'm not sure if I want to spend close to $6,000 on wheels/tires with Christmas coming up. Although, I could buy them for myself as a Christmas/birthday present. My birthday is the 15th...don't you guys forget it.

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Well, my birthday is on the 22nd so here's the deal. I'll buy you a set of wheels and tires and you do the same for me. :D (it's not my fault I want bigger tires)


Happy early birthday!


Mark

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Haha. If you want 38's, you can buy mine. They only have about 5,000 miles on them. And the spare is brand new.

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What are both of your thoughts on your lifts? Mark's got the rancho and you've got the fabtech..how is the ride quality on them? Any comments? I'm fixing to be in the market and kinda juggling some brands. I think BDS is out (discontinued), bulletproof would be awesome I would think, haven't heard many things about fabtech, heard lots of good things about rancho.

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I'm happy with my Fabtech kit. But truthfully, I made so many other changes, it's hard to say how well just the kit has performed. All the parts have held up fine, though.

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I saw a lifted SUT in one of my surrounding towns (very rare)..had the fabtech kit with the dual shock setup, dirt logics I believe. But it looked very good, I think he was running irok's in either 39.5 or 41's. And to my surprise, the truck was big, but not ungodly big to wear you couldn't drive it. Not any worse than a lifted diesel. haha. I'm so excited about going up

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I bought the truck used and it already had the kit on it, including the dual shock set-up. It had the standard shocks, and the shock hoops kept coming loose. I eventually took them off, and realized that the shocks were pointless. I could compress them by hand, and I'm not a big guy.

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ranchos web site says you can fit up to 40".

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how much for the tires? and only 5K on them? so lots of tread left? im very intersted. pm me or you can email me any info black5thgen@yahoo.com

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I installed the fabtech on my first H2 and the Rancho on this one. I honestly can't tell a difference in ride, installation (ease or lack thereof) or height. If I were to do it again, I'd go with a higher lift.




Ahhhh, I see... you got jokes. :raar:

:D





Ahhhhh, shaddup..... he offered it to me first. :crying:




And I say I'm hung like a pornstar....


but it ain't true.... :D

(okay, the rancho part isn't...)


Mark

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have at em then.


and found this on ranchos web site.....3rd line .... http://gorancho.com/suspension.php?m...mmer_h2#l ift