I had a project planned and bought an new Warn winch bumper that's made for the H2. I currently also have one already installed on my H2 but was going to take the new one and modify it to my liking. My interests have drifted to UCP protection and would like to sell the bumper.

It's the fully Warn metal bumper and all the mountings but does not have the winch. I am sure it could be customized to accomodate different winches or for other projects. Brand new, box never opened.

I had a project planned and bought an new Warn winch bumper that's made for the H2. I currently also have one already installed on my H2 but was going to take the new one and modify it to my liking. My interests have drifted to UCP protection and would like to sell the bumper.

It's the fully Warn metal bumper and all the mountings but does not have the winch. I am sure it could be customized to accomodate different winches or for other projects. Brand new, box never opened.

I'm interested P. How much you looking to get for it?

$5

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
I'm interested P. How much you looking to get for it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Ideally would like to recoup cost of about $550, which included taxes, but here to get what I can get.

Considering offers.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Dan:
$5,000 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>fixed

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
I'm interested P. How much you looking to get for it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>My wife want's me to recoup the cost of about $550, which included taxes, or I'll be in the dog house.

Considering offers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fixed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>10 year anniversary next month and I've bought too many things I "needed" and complained about having to buy her bling...... oops

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
I'm interested P. How much you looking to get for it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm looking to buy an FN Five-Seven, and I just noticed the cost of the ammo!

Considering offers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Fixed </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fixed again.

Paragon,
What's the dimensions of the area where the winch mounts? I'm considering alternative winches and Warn hasn't gotten back to me with this info since they're on vacation.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Paragon,
What's the dimensions of the area where the winch mounts? I'm considering alternative winches and Warn hasn't gotten back to me with this info since they're on vacation. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>How exact do you want? I can try to measure the one on my truck now. The new one is still boxed up and I haven't even de-banded it.

If you are looking for a max size or something I can probably do that without opening the box.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
How exact do you want? I can try to measure the one on my truck now. The new one is still boxed up and I haven't even de-banded it.

If you are looking for a max size or something I can probably do that without opening the box. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Perfectly exact. A CAD model in my email would be best

Actually, if the area is nice and rectangular just those dimensions, erring to the small side and notes about any irregularitis/fins/etc. If it's more irregular, whatever you can/want to do for specing it out.

I'm considering a milemarker hydraulic. I don't yet have dimensions on them either (I wasn't planning this shopping until next month), but drum lengths are comparable to the 9.5XP and pictures make it look like a possibility. So if you know that this will or won't work, that'd be good too.

Ooops. Milemarker has this as their dimensions:



Looks like 24.65 is required width, and 8x10 in the other two dimensions. Probably some hacking needed to provide access to the control knobs.

Here is the only picture I could find from my installation. I lost the hard drive on my notebook and don't have access to those pictures right now.

The cradle itself is not limited on width. The width is determined by the frame members of the truck and are just over 24".

The bumper part that you see from the outside is an overlay or veneer. It provides no structural support, so what you see in the picture below is the strength and what you would be mounting to. You could make the necessary cuts or holes in the metal bumper to accomodate different controls.

The opening in the top of the bumper to view the drum is 9.5" wide X 3.5" deep. From the bottom of the cradle mounting to the inside of the top of the bumper overlay is 7", so the winch can be roughly 7" tall.

If the milemarker is 10" tall and over 24" wide, it would be a tough fit without cutting the top away more from frame member to frame member and exposing all of the winch instead of just the drum as with the Warn setup.

For $550 are you gonna drive it up to me?

Okay, it sounds like a big ole maybe. I thing the MM can be mounted so that the freespool lever is on the side instead of the top. I sort of wonder if the end of the speed lever can be hacked off and a push rod can be linked to the end and routed out the front.

I'll have to ask some more questions of the MM folks to know if it's a fit.

I really want to avoid (a) a cradle and (b) an more expensive bumper (cough), so I'm probably going to have to find a way to make the warn bumper work. So I'm probably a strong fallback buys on this. I hate to be really impulsive, so give me a bit more time to ponder.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Okay, it sounds like a big ole maybe. I thing the MM can be mounted so that the freespool lever is on the side instead of the top. I sort of wonder if the end of the speed lever can be hacked off and a push rod can be linked to the end and routed out the front.

I'll have to ask some more questions of the MM folks to know if it's a fit.

I really want to avoid (a) a cradle and (b) an more expensive bumper (cough), so I'm probably going to have to find a way to make the warn bumper work. So I'm probably a strong fallback buys on this. I hate to be really impulsive, so give me a bit more time to ponder. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Regardless, if I can help let me know. I got the new one to consider a larger winch and it would be easy because the bumper cover can be hacked up and still look good, but I can do a triple line pull if I have to (justifying to myself why I don't need a bigger winch)

My current bumper is bent all up or I would take it off and take some pictures. with it being bent up so bad, I'm afraid once I get it off, it will be a bitch to get the holes realigned to mount it back up.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by frank6150:
For $550 are you gonna drive it up to me? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It's warmer down here, why don't you come this way and I lower the price.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. ..

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. .. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What, you thinking about driving down here because it's warmer or about the bumper.

Time to try that baby of yours out on a long drive.

no, and yes!

I would probably leave the driving to UPS! Were you thinking of modding it for the rear?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Regardless, if I can help let me know. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you take a several of pictures of the center area of the bumper (the one on your truck that is), below, in front of, above? Just so I can get a slightly better idea of exactly what comes out where, how big the access is at the top, and what kind of mids I might need to make to the fascia.
Thanks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Regardless, if I can help let me know. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Can you take a several of pictures of the center area of the bumper (the one on your truck that is), below, in front of, above? Just so I can get a slightly better idea of exactly what comes out where, how big the access is at the top, and what kind of mids I might need to make to the fascia.
Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll get something the first part of next week.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
no, and yes!

I would probably leave the driving to UPS! Were you thinking of modding it for the rear? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I tow trailers too much to go screwing around with the rear. I was thinking about going with a bigger winch, and creating an area for a custom air tank.

ah yes! That would pretty much end all towing unless you fab something for it. I am sure it could be done, but I lack the fabbin' skills (welding/bending/cutting steel)...I would have to drive it down to Monster Garage!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Actually, if the area is nice and rectangular just those dimensions, erring to the small side and notes about any irregularitis/fins/etc. If it's more irregular, whatever you can/want to do for specing it out.

I'm considering a milemarker hydraulic. I don't yet have dimensions on them either (I wasn't planning this shopping until next month), but drum lengths are comparable to the 9.5XP and pictures make it look like a possibility. So if you know that this will or won't work, that'd be good too. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

All(I'm pretty sure) winches have a standard foot print. Your main concern is going to be the dimensions from to the left & right of the bolt holes.
I would highly advise you to stay away from the Mile Marker winches. All of the Hummer techs that I've spoken with on this subject have offered the advice to NOT use a hydraulic winch on the H2.

I'd recommend going with the Warn Tabor series winches. Great product and very reliable.
The 9K & the 12K have the same dimensions, just different gears.
http://www.warn.com/truck/winches/value_series.shtml

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
I would highly advise you to stay away from the Mile Marker winches. All of the Hummer techs that I've spoken with on this subject have offered the advice to NOT use a hydraulic winch on the H2. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Preface: I don't know the details of any business doings/misdoings between you and MM since I haven't read enough old posts to figure it out. So I'm not going to discount what you've said because of this.

If there is a real problem with the MM hydraulics on the H2, I'd love to know about it now. But so far, I've seen little substantive arguments against their use.

I did see you post a complaint about the cluth lever failing on one.

But everything I've ever seen about the hydraulics being bad seems purely anectodal/hearsay. I've seen all sorts of people claiming that they cause PS pump failure, but I've never hear them say it was their PS pump that their winch broke.

I know AMG fails to warrant the PS pumps on H1's if a MM hydraulic is used, but this isn't proof that the winches are the problem. It is a mighty nice way for them to save on warantee costs. But I've seen a number of videos with H1's sans MM winches and sick sounding PS pumps. Maybe the PS pumps aren't so hot on the H1's.

So why specifically are the Hummer tech's advising against it?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
I would highly advise you to stay away from the Mile Marker winches. All of the Hummer techs that I've spoken with on this subject have offered the advice to NOT use a hydraulic winch on the H2. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Preface: I don't know the details of any business doings/misdoings between you and MM since I haven't read enough old posts to figure it out. So I'm not going to discount what you've said because of this. <span class="ev_code_RED">They are sneaky thieves, but my recommendation is made after personally experiencing failure on 2 of their electric winches. Also, the fact that any warranty work must be done at their facility in Atlanta(?). Warn has service falcilities worldwide and are very accommodating when it comes to warranty repairs.</span>

If there is a real problem with the MM hydraulics on the H2, I'd love to know about it now. But so far, I've seen little substantive arguments against their use. <span class="ev_code_RED">Most, if not all, techs will tell you that the H2 steering pump isn't quite up to the work of running a hydraulic winch.</span>

I did see you post a complaint about the cluth lever failing on one. <span class="ev_code_RED">One personally. 3-4 others from friends & acquaintances.</span>

But everything I've ever seen about the hydraulics being bad seems purely anectodal/hearsay. I've seen all sorts of people claiming that they cause PS pump failure, but I've never hear them say it was their PS pump that their winch broke. <span class="ev_code_RED">Like I said, ask a tech.</span>

I know AMG fails to warrant the PS pumps on H1's if a MM hydraulic is used, but this isn't proof that the winches are the problem. It is a mighty nice way for them to save on warantee costs.<span class="ev_code_RED">That's because MM is a bitch to work with on warranty issues.</span> But I've seen a number of videos with H1's sans MM winches and sick sounding PS pumps. Maybe the PS pumps aren't so hot on the H1's. <span class="ev_code_RED">Could be. But I've only ever heard one PS pump sounding sickly. And I've been around LOTS of H1s.</span>

So why specifically are the Hummer tech's advising against it? </div></BLOCKQUOTE> <span class="ev_code_RED">The best thing you can do is go ask one(or a couple of them) about their opinions on the subject.</span>

Remember: Opinions are like *******s. Everybody has one and they usually stink.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<span class="ev_code_RED">The best thing you can do is go ask one(or a couple of them) about their opinions on the subject.</span>
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Will do. Can't hurt.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Remember: Opinions are like *******s. Everybody has one and they usually stink. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ain't that the truth. Thanks

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
I got some real “roll eyes” action last night when I explained the $140 I spent for the wireless winch remote I needed so I don’t have to open the hood twice a year


Congats on 10 years, we are at about 9 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Please let me know how the install goes.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Can you take a several of pictures of the center area of the bumper (the one on your truck that is), below, in front of, above? Just so I can get a slightly better idea of exactly what comes out where, how big the access is at the top, and what kind of mids I might need to make to the fascia.
Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll get something the first part of next week. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Paragon,
No need anymore. I just got the install instructions in Word form from Warn. The pictures in it provide enough detail.

For others, this picture shows how it all fits together before adding the bumper cover.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
Can you take a several of pictures of the center area of the bumper (the one on your truck that is), below, in front of, above? Just so I can get a slightly better idea of exactly what comes out where, how big the access is at the top, and what kind of mids I might need to make to the fascia.
Thanks. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I'll get something the first part of next week. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Paragon,
No need anymore. I just got the install instructions in Word form from Warn. The pictures in it provide enough detail.

For others, this picture shows how it all fits together before adding the bumper cover. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn, I was just resizing all of the photos and getting ready to post them. Hmphf!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
[quote]Originally posted by PARAGON:
Paragon,
No need anymore. I just got the install instructions in Word form from Warn. The pictures in it provide enough detail.

For others, this picture shows how it all fits together before adding the bumper cover. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn, I was just resizing all of the photos and getting ready to post them. Hmphf! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you've gottem, postem, please. It'll get you closer to supreme overlord.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ree:
[quote]Originally posted by PARAGON:
Paragon,
No need anymore. I just got the install instructions in Word form from Warn. The pictures in it provide enough detail.

For others, this picture shows how it all fits together before adding the bumper cover. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn, I was just resizing all of the photos and getting ready to post them. Hmphf! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you've gottem, postem, please. It'll get you closer to supreme overlord. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>No.... No No! I'll just keep them to myself now!

Notice the winky in my previous post.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
No.... No No! I'll just keep them to myself now!

Notice the winky in my previous post. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry. I have intermittent WADS (Winky Attribution Deficiency Syndrome ). I see it, I'm not not completely sure what to make of it

Know what I mean

I had forgotten what this thread was about....... so, does anybody want the bumper?

ok, ok.... $6.50?

Still a strong maybe.