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jp's-h3 01-27-2006 07:57 PM

I know there have been quite a few posts about adjusting the torsion bars to minimize the rake
of the H3. I'm seriously thinking of making this adjustment. I know that I need to jack up the front end, turn the torsion bar adjustment bolts 2-2.5 times clockwise and that I need to have it alligned after making the adjustment (I have to do this before feb.8 to get the free allignment from the dealership).
for those of you that have already done this, what do you really think about this adjustment of the torsion bars? 2 or 2.5 turns?
It certainly looks better but, what about wear and tear. Is it a pretty easy adjustment to make. I'm a huge "Moab Freak" (off-road enthusiaste)I really am curious how this might affect wear and tear or performance?
Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

jp's-h3 01-27-2006 07:57 PM

I know there have been quite a few posts about adjusting the torsion bars to minimize the rake
of the H3. I'm seriously thinking of making this adjustment. I know that I need to jack up the front end, turn the torsion bar adjustment bolts 2-2.5 times clockwise and that I need to have it alligned after making the adjustment (I have to do this before feb.8 to get the free allignment from the dealership).
for those of you that have already done this, what do you really think about this adjustment of the torsion bars? 2 or 2.5 turns?
It certainly looks better but, what about wear and tear. Is it a pretty easy adjustment to make. I'm a huge "Moab Freak" (off-road enthusiaste)I really am curious how this might affect wear and tear or performance?
Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

hmrlvr 01-27-2006 08:13 PM

I've gone about 10,000 miles since I've done it and not noticed any problems on or offroad. Never to Moab though.

TNTH3 01-28-2006 02:15 AM

Is the free alignment standard from all dealers or a special from this particular one?

humdoug 01-28-2006 11:38 AM

I have 1000 miles and no problems. 2 1/4 turns.

jp's-h3 01-28-2006 08:12 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by TNTH3:
Is the free alignment standard from all dealers or a special from this particular one? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It should be free at all dealerships for six months form the day of purchase.

jp's-h3 02-03-2006 03:10 AM

Any more suggestions?

hmrlvr 02-03-2006 03:15 AM

Just do it.

BABHUMV 02-03-2006 03:32 AM

Something occured to me. For those of you that have done the adjustment. What did it do to the headlight alignment? Is the oncoming traffic getting pissed?

StarsnBars 02-03-2006 04:11 AM

I think I can see better now ( 2-1/2 turns ) Have had no one flash there brites yet. Very easy to do,, jack up the front end with a floor jack ,, get tires off the ground, mark the adjustment bolt with a marker and turn clockwise your desired turns. 2 turns is about 1 inch,, 2-1/2 turns about inch and a quarter. Theres pics on other posts that can help you too. Good Luck

humdoug 02-03-2006 03:39 PM

I thought the headlights being higher made for better visability. If they need adjusted down, there is a adjustment just behind the grill. it would be real simple.

jp's-h3 02-08-2006 07:04 PM

Well it's done!
I made the adjustment, 2.5 turns. Took it to the dealership for it's 7000 mile allignment and free detail.
It looks much better! and seems to drive the same. very easy! I deffinately recommend this adjustment!

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 01:01 AM

Since I am dropping mine off Monday to get marker lights and DVD installed, do you guys think I should ask them to adjust mine? Or should I just do it and never say anything. I recall a post about this stating that if the dealer does it there can't be any warranty issues.

Black H1 02-09-2006 02:48 AM

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I had the delaer adjust my torsion bars and other than the bounce in the front end being slightly more, it has not affected anything. I drove an H1 for years, so any ride is smoother. The dealer also realigned the vehicle for free as it was "pulling a little"

humdoug 02-09-2006 11:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Since I am dropping mine off Monday to get marker lights and DVD installed, do you guys think I should ask them to adjust mine? Or should I just do it and never say anything. I recall a post about this stating that if the dealer does it there can't be any warranty issues. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How much is the dealer charging to install the marker lights?

humdoug 02-09-2006 11:30 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Black H1:
I had the delaer adjust my torsion bars and other than the bounce in the front end being slightly more, it has not affected anything. I drove an H1 for years, so any ride is smoother. The dealer also realigned the vehicle for free as it was "pulling a little" </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How many turns were made to the torsion bar bolts.

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 12:33 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by humdoug:
How much is the dealer charging to install the marker lights? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would have to go through the paperwork as it was worked into the purchase. As I recall, we negotiated something like $600 or $650 installed. Don't think you could get that price after purchase but as I said, it was worked into the deal.

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 12:34 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by humdoug:
How many turns were made to the torsion bar bolts. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am curious about it too. I want to raise the front a little but don't want to effect the ride much if any. I am thinking maybe 1 to 1 1/2 turns would help the looks.

humdoug 02-09-2006 01:47 PM

I am curious about it too. I want to raise the front a little but don't want to effect the ride much if any. I am thinking maybe 1 to 1 1/2 turns would help the looks.[/quote]

Most are turning 2 to 2 1/2 with good results.

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 02:02 PM

I have also heard mentioned that if you raise the front end and have a sunroof you will get some buffeting wind noise. You get the same noise if you open the sunroof past the point where it initially stops. What I do to get rid of it is crack the back windows maybe 1 inch. Has anyone that has adjusted the torsion bar and has a sunroof experienced this or tried cracking the windows to get rid of the noise? I know I am not going to like it raised if I always get this additional wind noise.

fourfourto 02-09-2006 02:12 PM

I did not adjust torsion bars but I did buy a ventvisor sunroof deflector,it goes on with double sided tape(3m).It cuts wind noise down alot.

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 02:29 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fourfourto:
I did not adjust torsion bars but I did buy a ventvisor sunroof deflector,it goes on with double sided tape(3m).It cuts wind noise down alot. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Where did you get yours and how much?

Black H1 02-09-2006 03:09 PM

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I had the dealer go 3/4" under level from the rear and realign the old girl. I have not noticed any wind noise, but I live in SD and the only time the wind stops is when it changes direction.

Black H1 02-09-2006 03:14 PM

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I have noticed that the truck does handle nicely off road raised up and the stance does look a little meaner. My pregnant wife complains every time she gets in, so I got that going for me too.

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 04:00 PM

Thanks for the info. 3/4" lower than the back should be about right. I really don't like the look from the factory but I guess there is a reason for it. I will see if they will adjust it Monday. Did they do your alignment right then? Do you need to wait to let it settle in a bit?

humdoug 02-09-2006 06:25 PM

I made the adjustment myself, lifted the front tires off the ground and turned the torsion bar bolts clockwise 2 1/2 times each. I waited for 100 miles before I had it aligned. One side was out a bit but not much.

GO FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HummerNewbie 02-09-2006 06:26 PM

Can anyone say for sure if this can potentially give the dealer a reason to decline any warranty claims?

Hummie3 02-09-2006 08:48 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Can anyone say for sure if this can potentially give the dealer a reason to decline any warranty claims? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If your not sure have the dealer adjust the torsion bars. Thats what I did.

humdoug 02-09-2006 10:40 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
Can anyone say for sure if this can potentially give the dealer a reason to decline any warranty claims? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I took mine to the dealer and told him I made the adjustment. I asked if it would become a warranty issue. I was told no. He also told me it looked GREAT.

fourfourto 02-09-2006 10:52 PM

HummerNewbie
Hummer Guru

Posted Feb 9, 11:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by fourfourto:
I did not adjust torsion bars but I did buy a ventvisor sunroof deflector,it goes on with double sided tape(3m).It cuts wind noise down alot.


Where did you get yours and how much ?


Pep boys has them under $50.00.They usually have to order the larger ones in.I forgot the part # just look at one of the smaller ones they have instock and theres a chart on it for part # and sizes. easy install and matches the window visors.

jp's-h3 02-10-2006 12:57 AM

I made the adjustment myself (2.5 turns), did not tell the dealership when they alligned it, nor did they mention it! it looks much meaner, and drives nicely!

HummerNewbie 02-10-2006 01:01 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fourfourto:
Pep boys has them under $50.00.They usually have to order the larger ones in.I forgot the part # just look at one of the smaller ones they have instock and theres a chart on it for part # and sizes. easy install and matches the window visors. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I might be going by a Pep Boys this weekend so will have to check it out thanks.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by jp's-h3:
I made the adjustment myself (2.5 turns), did not tell the dealership when they alligned it, nor did they mention it! it looks much meaner, and drives nicely! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good to know. I may go ahead and do it this weekend before dropping it off on Monday.

jp's-h3 02-12-2006 03:41 AM

I highly recommend it, very easy and looks MEAN.
If your not going to lift it, it will also fit those 35's much better!

HummerNewbie 02-13-2006 01:31 PM

I raised it 2 turns this weekend and it looks great.

jp's-h3 02-16-2006 11:19 PM

Here are a couple of pics after turning 2.5 times!

jp's-h3 02-16-2006 11:22 PM

LET IT SNOW!

HummerNewbie 02-17-2006 01:10 PM

Asked them to do an alignment when it was in on Monday for the DVD/marker light install but they said they couldn't yet. Have to wait until it has at least 500 miles to do it. Oh well, have to take it back when the part they ordered for the sunroof comes in and will have 500 by the end of the weekend.

KJS 02-19-2006 06:38 PM

I guess I suck at using the search here b/c I keep coming up short on pix. Can any of you please repost your before and after or any side-by-sides etc?

HummerNewbie 02-20-2006 05:18 PM

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Kind of hard to really tell in these shot but here is a before and after.

NM H3 02-21-2006 01:24 AM

Just did mine 2.5 turns, and got about 1.5" of lift. Took all of 5 minutes. Looks much better.


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