Anybody have a recommendation for a make/model of night vision binoculars? With zoom?

Also curious to know if the differences between GEN 1, 2, 3 and 4 are big enough to warrant the additional expense? I've seen binoculars ranging from GEN 2 at a few hundred dollars to the latest gear running upwards of six grand...

Anybody have a recommendation for a make/model of night vision binoculars? With zoom?

Also curious to know if the differences between GEN 1, 2, 3 and 4 are big enough to warrant the additional expense? I've seen binoculars ranging from GEN 2 at a few hundred dollars to the latest gear running upwards of six grand...

Now that the regulars are back...bump. Anyone?

I have some, but they're in VA and I'm not. I'll be sure to check them out, though. Or maybe CP will read this and give you the info when she gets there.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Or maybe CP will read this and give you the info when she gets there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess that means she is flying back and leaving the driving to you again

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
I have some, but they're in VA and I'm not. I'll be sure to check them out, though. Or maybe CP will read this and give you the info when she gets there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That would be super -- thanks, Ken.

You know, you can catch a round trip hop from Moab to Vegas and back for less than $600. I'm two miles from the airport...

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummerNewbie:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Or maybe CP will read this and give you the info when she gets there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I guess that means she is flying back and leaving the driving to you again </div></BLOCKQUOTE>That would be true.

Rod, maybe next time. You know when we head out there again we'll look you up. BTW, you must have a nice view of the strip.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Rod, maybe next time. You know when we head out there again we'll look you up. BTW, you must have a nice view of the strip. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Look forward to seeing you then.

The view -- The airport is two miles long east to west and we're another two miles east of there so yes, we do see the tops of buidlings but it isn't too dramatic. That's enough for us, though. We make it to the strip about once every five years.

Bump. Anyone?

What are you wanting them for?

The wow factor mostly but I'd also like a good performing tool if ever needed for a more serious occasion.

So for now, camping, boating and generally snooping in the night. Two young daughters (and their dad) would get a kick out of looking into the dark desert and seeing all the critters looking back.

I really don't know much about anything but ATN. Personally, best bang for the buck is the GENII with image intensifiers or so-called GENII+.

GENIII are not that much better than GENII and just had some little tweak that increased contrast. It's just not worth the difference in price, in my opinion. GENIV are hugely different and are the way to go but if you are not going to be using it with a camera or for some serious stuff, it's really costly.

As far as I know, ATN is the best way to go.

Well, I found them- along with Kenny's porn collection.

It says "Scout" Black Lion Optics by ATN.

They are sweet and serve their purpose- I can't tell you much else though.

We never cared to close the curtains when we made love because the lights were off(Lights on is fun too).


Thanks to this thread, that's about to change.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I really don't know much about anything but ATN. Personally, best bang for the buck is the GENII with image intensifiers or so-called GENII+.

GENIII are not that much better than GENII and just had some little tweak that increased contrast. It's just not worth the difference in price, in my opinion. GENIV are hugely different and are the way to go but if you are not going to be using it with a camera or for some serious stuff, it's really costly.

As far as I know, ATN is the best way to go. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, Paragon. Prior to checking for your response I was looking at these ATN binoculars.

Also found this chart. Very interesting stuff.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Well, I found them- along with Kenny's porn collection.

It says "Scout" Black Lion Optics by ATN.

They are sweet and serve their purpose- I can't tell you much else though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ken looks at porn with night vision binoculars?

Small world once again ... I saw your binoculars on Amazon. Thanks for digging, CP. And sorry, Ken.

This them?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I really don't know much about anything but ATN. Personally, best bang for the buck is the GENII with image intensifiers or so-called GENII+. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The link I posted above is that exactly -- GENII+.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">GENIII are not that much better than GENII and just had some little tweak that increased contrast. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


The chart above shows the minor improvement to GENIII. Good info, Paragon. Thanks again.

I'm all for cool toys but no way can I justify thousands of more dollars for the GENIV gear.

Also looked at <gack> thermal imagers. They're well over 10 grand!

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by rodster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Well, I found them- along with Kenny's porn collection.

It says "Scout" Black Lion Optics by ATN.

They are sweet and serve their purpose- I can't tell you much else though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ken looks at porn with night vision binoculars?

Small world once again ... I saw your binoculars on Amazon. Thanks for digging, CP. And sorry, Ken.

This them?

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Damn.... But no, that's not them. I've had them for a few years. More like these:

Yep, saw those, too. They're now known as the Scout model. Apparently the Black Lion is now with the Jaguar (the silver ones).

Can't decide which ones are best. Yours are a good size and weight. These ones below have more horsepower but dang, they're 14 inches long and 3.9 pounds. Decisions, decisions...

Thanks, Ken.

A couple good links:

How night vision works and the differences between the generations: http://www.atncorp.com/HowNightVisionWorks.

There's a forum for everything these days. Here's one for night vision. http://www.nightvisionforums.com/