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I just got the new Pioneer flip screen system installed in my truck 2 days ago and all I can say is DAMN I love this thing.

The picture quality is outstanding and it is touch screen as well which I have always wanted. I put Underworld in there to test out the DVD functions and the movie looks very good, much better than I expected it to be.

You can control amplifier settings from the unit rather than go to the back of the truck to adjust things. Did I mention I love the fact that it is touch screen?

The navigation is built into the head unit so there isn't a seperate piece of equipment that needs to be purchased to go with it. You can do split screen with the radio and Navi which is how I keep it right now. The unit supports voice recognition so you can keep your hands on the wheel and control things.

What really adds to the value of this unit for me at least is the fact that you can monitor vehicle properties through the unit. Angular velocity, side slope degree, voltage, lateral g-force, forward and backward g-force and a compass. Very handy to have up on the screen while offroading. I'm in the process of hooking up an HCam to the system and should have that running by tomorrow or Tuesday.

Enough of my rambling, here are some pics. You may notice my picture taking ability has been somewhat hindered by alcohol...

Nice set-up. What is the model number and how much did it cost you? How much did you buy the trailer "rear view" cam for?

Did you replace the door speakers or left them stock ?

That's really nice, Frank. Looks fantastic. I look forward to hearing more about it.

JMV - Model number is AVIC-N1. I paid $1,700 for the unit. The camera was purchased from my good buddy Big C.

George - No I didn't replace any speakers nor do I fel they need to be. Having subs in the vehicle means you really only use your other speakers for tweeters and mids which I think they work fine for.

Ken - Thanks bro. Anything you wanna know all you gotta do is call me up man.

Frank,
Real nice setup. How do you like the Kicker subs? I was thinking of throwing a set of them in mine. Are they 10's or 12's? Also which kicker amp is that?

Nice unit. Why didn't you buy the Pioneer XM tuner to integrate XM?

I screwed up badly ordering the modules so I figured the hell with it for right now. I need to get the XM, TV and Voice Recognition modules.

Spike, the speakers are 10's, L7's I believe. The amp is the 1200.1 watt one, they changed the names around again so I don't know which one I have anymore. It is too much power for those subs so I am thinking of adding 2 12's into the mix to go with them.

Frank, you might want to go ahead and buy the Pioneer GEX-P910XM. Rumor is Pioneer will soon quit making it. Right now, Crutchfield has it in stock:

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-QZHAOIt...sp?i=130P910XM

Hi Frank

I have a Pioneer Nav System - Here is a small problem I have and wonder if you have it and how might it be corrected (Help Klaus):

The Pioneer Nav System has a Nighttime screen and Daytime screen - Day = Gray background (like your picture) Nighttime = Black background.

In the "Settings Mode" you can toggel the mode (automatic) which should allow the unit to change to black background when lights go on toward evening - however since the H2 has day-time running lights my backgroud is always black in auto mode.

Unless I toggel the setting to "off" - then the background is always gray even at night (which is to bright inside at night).

Have you experienced this - any suggestion? My Installer states that they cannot correct this problem.

Thanks

Looks great my friend just got the head unit in and wants me to get one. Are you happy with everything? I am cosidering picking one up.
Thanks

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tucson Beast:
Hi Frank

I have a Pioneer Nav System - Here is a small problem I have and wonder if you have it and how might it be corrected (Help Klaus):

The Pioneer Nav System has a Nighttime screen and Daytime screen - Day = Gray background (like your picture) Nighttime = Black background.

In the "Settings Mode" you can toggel the mode (automatic) which should allow the unit to change to black background when lights go on toward evening - however since the H2 has day-time running lights my backgroud is always black in auto mode.

Unless I toggel the setting to "off" - then the background is always gray even at night (which is to bright inside at night).

Have you experienced this - any suggestion? My Installer states that they cannot correct this problem.

Thanks

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't have my wiring diagrams with me at work, and I'm guessing about the Pioneer, so here goes.

I suspect the Pioneer needs to be connected to a 12V source that is "hot" when the lights are on. If, in fact, the dash lights are always on, that won't work. I'd suggest a connection to the tail light circuit.

I'll look it up tonight for you.

Hey Klaus

Thanks for the help - I will look this evening

Mine auto adjusts for day/night just fine so far. I have it set to always stay bright cause when I have my windows up and the sunroof closed sometimes it thinks it is night time and dims the screen. My windows are pitch black though so I guess the sensor on top the screen gets a little goofy since no light really gets into the truck.

Got Dirt - I haven't had it long enough to develop any problems so I can't say for sure it will continue to work fine but so far all is well. You won't be unhappy getting one unless you don't like the screen flipping out of the dash, by far not an OEM look.

Klaus as always thank you for the info, I am going to order all the remaining modules I need tonight.

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The courtesy/illuminated entry lamps, may be manually turned on or off by
placing the interior lamp switch in the ON or OFF position. If a door is opened,
the courtesy/illuminated entry lamps illuminate. After all the doors have been
closed the courtesy/illuminated entry lamps will remain illuminated
approximately 15seconds. The courtesy/illuminated entry lamps will also
turn on prior to any door being opened, and remain illuminated approximately
40seconds when the driver removes the ignition key. If the interior lamp
switch is turned on when the ignition key is OFF, or the interior lamp switch is
left on when the ignition key is turned OFF the BCM will turn off the courtesy
lamps after approximately 10minutes.</P>

When the driver places the dome lamp defeat switch in the OFF position, the
courtesy/illuminated entry lamps will be disabled, however will still operate
from the interior lamp switch.</P>

The left and right front door courtesy lamps are controlled, and receive
voltage and ground from the drivers door module (DDM) and the passenger door
module (PDM) respectively. The BCM, DDM, and the PDM communicate through class
II serial data for the lamp illumination commands and the door ajar switches.
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The remaining courtesy lamps are controlled and receive voltage from the BCM.
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and all the doors are closed. The BCM will then activate the interior lamps. The
courtesy lamps will remain on, approximately 15seconds after the door is
closed. The BCM will then turn them off through the theater dimming feature. If
the door locks are activated to the LOCK position, or if the ignition switch is
turned to either the RUN or CRANK position the courtesy lamps will turn off
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doors, trunk or presses the panic button, the BCM will keep the courtesy lamps
on approximately 40seconds. When the driver uses the remote function
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The inadvertent power supply voltage circuit of the BCM provides battery
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match the indicated dimming level. The panel dimmer switch potentiometer is an
input to the BCM. When the driver selects a dimming setting by moving the I/P
dimming switch potentiometer, all incandescent back lighting lamps are provided
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BCM on the instrument panel lamps dimming supply voltage circuit. Ground for the
instrument panel lamps is at G203.</P>

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voltage and are controlled by the BCM on the instrument panel lamps dimming
control circuit. Ground for the rear window switches is at G302 and G306. Ground
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If, in fact the Pioneer dimmer circuit requires a positive voltage to dim the display, I'd say splice into the positive side of the PRNDL (automatic transmission shift lever) illumination bulb wiring in the console.

I checked these bulbs tonight on my truck, and they are NOT always on - They come on when the dash sensor turns on the headlights. If your lights are always on, then you have some other problem that needs to be fixed.

I will post a couple of wiring diagrams. Look for PRNDL circuit 230.