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HummBebe 03-12-2007 06:21 PM

Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
This is a great opportunity to help stop the closures!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/boxer/petition.html

Barbara Boxer is planning to introduce more closures (Wilderness Areas) than ever before.

Sign the petition today!!!!:perfect10s:

Field Scout 03-12-2007 06:29 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
This is a great opportunity to help stop the closures!!!!


Sign the petition today!!!!:perfect10s:


:iagree: Do Now

HummBebe 03-12-2007 07:24 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Source:
http://boxer.senate.gov/news/release....cfm?id=268572



Press Release of Senator Boxer

Boxer and Solis Introduce Legislation to Protect California Wilderness


Tuesday, February 6, 2007


Washington, D.C. - Today, U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Congresswoman Hilda L. Solis (CA-32), introduced the California Wild Heritage Act of 2007, legislation that would protect over 2.4 million acres of federal public lands in California.

"I am excited to build on last year's successes and continue efforts to preserve even more of California's magnificent wild lands for future generations," Boxer said. "These places are the natural treasure of California."

The California Wild Heritage Act protects these places by designating public lands owned by the American people as "wilderness" - the highest level of protection in federal law - and segments of California rivers as "wild and scenic." These areas would remain open for recreational activities such as horseback riding, fishing, hunting, hiking, backpacking, rock climbing and canoeing. It would also protect vital watersheds in our national forests, which are a source of California's drinking water supply. In addition, the bill would help protect vulnerable ecosystems and threatened species of plants and animals, such as salmon and trout.

"As our nation continues to develop, it is critical that we preserve our natural and cultural heritage for future generations," said Congresswoman Solis. "I am proud that this legislation will preserve wilderness and other green spaces, providing healthy refuges for families to enjoy the outdoors and exercise. This bill will help ensure that we don't look around one day and realize that all we have is concrete buildings, super highways, and poor health."

Sen. Boxer plans to continue her successful strategy of working district by district with members of the House of Representatives. In particular, she plans to continue the efforts begun last year with Rep. Howard P. "Buck" McKeon (R-CA) in the Eastern Sierra Nevada and desert portions of his district. Boxer also plans to work with Rep. Mary Bono (CA-45) to protect California's desert.

"Last year we proved that protecting wilderness is a bipartisan issue. This year, I want to continue that bipartisan effort by working with Representatives McKeon and Bono to protect California's spectacular Eastern Sierra and vast desert treasures. Today's legislation represents only the first step in that effort this Congress," Boxer said.

The legislation was developed after years of consultation with local communities, elected officials, recreation organizations, businesses, federal and state agencies and local property owners.

Last year, Sen. Boxer's Northern California Coastal Wild Heritage Wilderness Act, which designated over 273,000 acres of public land in Del Norte, Humboldt, Lake, Mendocino, and Napa Counties as wilderness, was enacted into law.

westhillsat 03-13-2007 04:34 AM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Field Scout
:iagree: Do Now


X10 :iagree:

I signed, a third of my relatives live in California. I found Bebe's signature :beerchug:

HummBebe 03-13-2007 05:19 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Thanks west :beerchug:

The Green Lantern 03-13-2007 08:23 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
This is a great opportunity to help stop the closures!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/boxer/petition.html

Barbara Boxer is planning to introduce more closures (Wilderness Areas) than ever before.

Sign the petition today!!!!:perfect10s:



I'm sorry, but as a naturalist and field Biologist, I dunno. I guess, I'll just sit and wait. :crying:

HummBebe 03-13-2007 09:48 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Not funny.......:p

NEOCON1 03-13-2007 10:04 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
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Originally Posted by The Juice
:beerchug: I actually support the closure. Need to leave a future for the kids. With all my chrome I don't mind staying at home. If some people could show the same kind of focus on their children and homelife as they do trying to keep these trails open there would be less future prostitutes and single fathers out there.


OMG lmfao :giggling: :giggling: :giggling:

Cali is too far gone get the heck out before its too late :p ;)

NEOCON1 03-13-2007 10:04 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
This is a great opportunity to help stop the closures!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/boxer/petition.html

Barbara Boxer is planning to introduce more closures (Wilderness Areas) than ever before.

Sign the petition today!!!!:perfect10s:



Save the trails :perfect10s:

NEOCON1 03-13-2007 10:07 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
27,160 sigs now
:jump:

The Juice 03-13-2007 10:17 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
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Originally Posted by NEOCON1
27,160 sigs now
:jump:


About as futile as trying to convince people the truths about hybrids. I think Spock said it best, "The needs of the many outweight the needs of the few(27,160) or the one." AND I'M NOT TOO THRILLED ABOUT HAVING NAMES POSTED ON THE SIGNATURE LIST. IT COULD GET INTO THE WRONG HANDS. Unless you can get half a million signatures, that petition will be destined for the waste basket without a glance. Just because this is a Hummer site I doubt you'll be able to get more than 10% support from elcova. Because they support the closure bill. Or they just hate Cali and want to watch us squirm.

h2co-pilot 03-13-2007 10:54 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Unfortunately, unless it is numbers representing a state majority or has to do with funding influence, it is very difficult for things like this to be taken seriously.

And gawd!, you think that the petitioner could have been a little more expanded in the cause. Like wildfires or access, something more concerning.:rolleyes:

The only people concerned about off-roading are off-road enthusiusts. And even then, a trail is of concern- not acreage.

I think wide open and untouched spaces are a luxury in North America that is often taken for granted.

HummBebe 03-14-2007 07:51 AM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
In Eldorado National Forest, we will lose 3300 miles of trails by May 2008. It's done. That's just the beginning.

Between Boxer, the Center for Biological Diversity, and the Sierra Club filing lawsuits county by county, National Forest by National Forest we will be destined to wheel on private land, like the much of the East Coast, Texas and many other states.

There is no harm in at least making an attempt to save it, and to be heard as a "small group".

If we lose, we lose.

If some are not comfortable with the petition and its format, you can always send a personal e-mail to Barbara Boxer here http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/

10% of Elcova is better than nothing. This form is listed on many forums, being circulated by e-mail etc....

HummBebe 03-14-2007 02:55 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
:giggling:

ROX 03-14-2007 05:53 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot
Unfortunately, unless it is numbers representing a state majority or has to do with funding influence, it is very difficult for things like this to be taken seriously.

And gawd!, you think that the petitioner could have been a little more expanded in the cause. Like wildfires or access, something more concerning.:rolleyes:

The only people concerned about off-roading are off-road enthusiusts. And even then, a trail is of concern- not acreage.

I think wide open and untouched spaces are a luxury in North America that is often taken for granted.

I agree with you, but the people they actually screw are the ones that don't know what's going on. When they close these roads out here, they close it to Everyone. People that hunt and fish and take their kids camping. They close it to Grandpa and Grandma that like to take sunday drives. It's not always about the off road enthusiast. We only make up a small majority of the people that use the roads. The environmentalists don't think anyone in these places has any right to use the roads. They don't care that ranchers use it as a short cut or an easier access to their land. I'm not talking about California, I'm talking about Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. Those populations are silent. Post this stuff on the board in the coffee shop, then you'll get a response.

h2co-pilot 03-14-2007 06:26 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
I agree with you, but the people they actually screw are the ones that don't know what's going on. When they close these roads out here, they close it to Everyone. People that hunt and fish and take their kids camping. They close it to Grandpa and Grandma that like to take sunday drives. It's not always about the off road enthusiast. We only make up a small majority of the people that use the roads. The environmentalists don't think anyone in these places has any right to use the roads. They don't care that ranchers use it as a short cut or an easier access to their land. I'm not talking about California, I'm talking about Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. Those populations are silent. Post this stuff on the board in the coffee shop, then you'll get a response.


Yeah, that's what I meant by expanding the petition to more than OHVs.

Somebody make a new one.;):D

HummBebe 03-14-2007 08:26 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H2 Rocks
I agree with you, but the people they actually screw are the ones that don't know what's going on. When they close these roads out here, they close it to Everyone. People that hunt and fish and take their kids camping. They close it to Grandpa and Grandma that like to take sunday drives. It's not always about the off road enthusiast. We only make up a small majority of the people that use the roads. The environmentalists don't think anyone in these places has any right to use the roads. They don't care that ranchers use it as a short cut or an easier access to their land. I'm not talking about California, I'm talking about Idaho and Montana and Wyoming. Those populations are silent. Post this stuff on the board in the coffee shop, then you'll get a response.


I agree that the general population is not aware of this. Wilderness areas do allow hunting, fishing biking, hiking etc....it allows everything BUT OHV use. That is why it is focused on OHV users.

Quote:


The California Wild Heritage Act protects these places by designating public lands owned by the American people as "wilderness" - the highest level of protection in federal law - and segments of California rivers as "wild and scenic." These areas would remain open for recreational activities such as horseback riding, fishing, hunting, hiking, backpacking, rock climbing and canoeing. It would also protect vital watersheds in our national forests, which are a source of California's drinking water supply. In addition, the bill would help protect vulnerable ecosystems and threatened species of plants and animals, such as salmon and trout.


The Juice 03-14-2007 10:41 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
If some are not comfortable with the petition and its format, you can always send a personal e-mail to Barbara Boxer here http://boxer.senate.gov/contact/

10% of Elcova is better than nothing. This form is listed on many forums, being circulated by e-mail etc....



Thanks! I sent an e-mail with a link to this thread. They should be aware that some Hummer owners oppose the closures but a majority of us support it. I also informed them that some of the signatures look suspiciously made up. Can AEs sign the petition also? Thanks JT. Good luck though. Sometimes dreams are all we have.

HummBebe 03-14-2007 11:10 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Juice
Thanks! I sent an e-mail with a link to this thread. They should be aware that some Hummer owners oppose the closures but a majority of us support it. I also informed them that some of the signatures look suspiciously made up. Can AEs sign the petition also? Thanks JT. Good luck though. Sometimes dreams are all we have.


Go ahead....tell people my name....it's Jacquelyne Theisen.


Good for you.....now you need to get back on the porch...dinner bell is going to ring soon. :jump:

The Juice 03-14-2007 11:45 PM

Re: Petition to oppose more Wilderness Areas in California
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HummBebe
Go ahead....tell people my name....it's Jacquelyne Theisen.


Good for you.....now you need to get back on the porch...dinner bell is going to ring soon. :jump:




??????? I said JT as in Jumbly Teets. I had no clue what your real name was.:OWNED: :D


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