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Boosted 10-20-2011 04:43 AM

Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I have researched this and can't make any sense of it. I have a 2003 H2 I am putting a newer model passenger mirror on. I have no idea what year it came from. Is there any directions on how to do this? The posts I have found do not seem to apply to my application.

Both mirrors have 11 wires. Matching colors to colors is not going to work on more than one wire.

Old mirror black plug = 4 wires
Old mirror blue plug = 7 wires
New mirror black plug = 5 wires
New mirror white plug = 6 wires

Any help is appreciated.

ffl 10-20-2011 11:37 AM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
i think you got a mirror for a 2007 h2 and up.
these connectors do not fit to the earlier ones. you should have a mirror for 2003-2006 i think. the connector colours should be black and blue, not black and white (2007 and up).

Boosted 10-20-2011 01:29 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I have seen people say they made the mirror/plug work. That is what I am hoping to do.

ffl 10-20-2011 02:18 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
i think this might work, but you probably have to change the location of the wires in the plug (or cut and solder them). i don't know if the white plug fits the blue one nor do i know how the wires have to be arranged.

Easy Ed 10-20-2011 08:29 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Couple old post that may help.

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=32940

http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...t=35461&page=2


Hope it does ya some good, Ed

Boosted 10-20-2011 09:10 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I have seen those two posts already. No help...Thanks though.

Easy Ed 10-20-2011 09:45 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
How about a wiring diagram from a 2003 service manual ?

All the help I can offer, good luck, Ed :beerchug:


Boosted 10-20-2011 09:51 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Any idea of how i can get the schematics for my mystery mirror?

Easy Ed 10-20-2011 09:57 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Tracy (twr) has a 2008 SUV, I think he can produce one for that model year to see if it matches your mystery mirror.

Here is Tracy's info, might try to PM him.
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/m...poster&t=41968

HUMTECH 10-22-2011 06:51 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 

Boosted 10-25-2011 05:30 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Do you have the diagram for the passenger side?

HUMTECH 10-25-2011 07:00 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 


Boosted 10-27-2011 02:52 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I need the diagrams for these plugs. This is a newer style mirror for a H2. No idea what year.





Easy Ed 10-27-2011 09:38 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I have no idea what ya got but am hoping HUMTECH will check back in and see the pics and help ya figure out which plugs ya have.

Good luck, Ed

HUMTECH 10-28-2011 01:13 AM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Heres the white one







Connector Part Information

? Harness Type: OSRVM - Driver
? OEM Connector: 15127040
? Service Connector: 15127040
? Description: 10-Way F 0.64 Series (WH)




Terminal Part Information

? Terminated Lead: Service by Component ? See Part Catalog
? Release Tool: Pending
? Diagnostic Test Probe: Pending
? Terminal/Tray: Not Available
? Core/Insulation Crimp: Not Available



<a href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/newsi/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2469802&from=ns&from=sm#N6566 5">Door Lock/Window Switch ? Driver X7



Pin


Wire


Circuit


Function



1




0.35 BN




6802




Driver Folding Mirror Motor Retract Control




2




0.35 GY




6803




Driver Folding Mirror Motor Extend Control




3




?




?




Not Used




4




0.35 D-BU




784




Driver Mirror Vertical Position Sensor Signal




5




0.35 RD




786




Driver Mirror Horizontal Position Sensor Signal




6




?




?




Not Used




7




0.35 D-GN




672




5-Volt Reference




8?9




?




?




Not Used




10




0.35 PU




673




Low Reference



HUMTECH 10-28-2011 01:18 AM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
And the black one







Connector Part Information

? Harness Type: OSRVM - Passenger
? OEM Connector: 15127042
? Service Connector: 15127042
? Description: 10-Way F 0.64 YESC Kaizen Series (BK)




Terminal Part Information

? Terminated Lead: Service by Component ? See Part Catalog
? Release Tool: Pending
? Diagnostic Test Probe: Pending
? Terminal/Tray: Not Available
? Core/Insulation Crimp: Not Available



<a href="http://gsi.xw.gm.com/newsi/showDoc.do?docSyskey=2469806&from=ns&from=sm#N6566 5">Door Lock/Window Switch ? Passenger X3



Pin


Wire


Circuit


Function



1




0.35 PU/WH




6162




Outside Right Mirror Vertical Position Control




2




0.35 RD/WH




6161




Outside Right Mirror Horizontal Position Control




3




0.8 BK




628




Low Reference




4?5




?




?




Not Used




6




0.35 WH




7196




Outside Right Mirror Drive Motor Common




7




0.8 BK




2267




Mirror Heating Element Control




8?10




?




?




Not Used



Boosted 10-28-2011 05:09 AM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I have not had a chance to sit down and mess with this. I see the top picture says driver. I am assuming the wiring is the same driver/passenger?

Boosted 10-28-2011 08:10 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Here is the new mirror wires tied into the old plug (no soldering). I am able to fold the mirrors in and out, but I am not able to adjust the new mirror up, down, left or right. Can anyone confirm if my configuration is correct or not? I purchase the mirror on fleabay and it should be working. At this poing I am wondering if the up, down, left, right motor is broken. Can that be replaced if it is broken?

Any help is greatly appreciated!




Boosted 10-28-2011 09:47 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
Mirror folds in fine. I can hear the up, down, left, right motor turning, but the mirror does not move. I assume there is a gear or something that is messed up? Any way I can fix that? Any ideas how to take the cover off so I can check it out?

tsdrummerboy 11-11-2011 02:00 PM

Re: Updating from 2003 mirror to newer model. Plug issues
 
I have an 03 and I found mirrors from an 05 that had the black and blue plug ends,just like the 03.I tried one from an 08 w/ a blk and white end and won`t work.I tried spliceing,dicing and praying and nothing worked.So I sent that mirror back and shopped around till I found an 05...plugged right in with out any trouble and is still working great to this day.


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