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PARAGON 11-21-2005 01:17 PM

Any gurus out there. I have some birds that appear to be one or the other. The ivory-billed is the bird that, until last year, was thought to be extinct. Both are the largest woodpeckers in the U.S. The Pileated was on the endangered list at one time.

Anybody know any details about these birds? I have them on video.

PARAGON 11-21-2005 01:17 PM

Any gurus out there. I have some birds that appear to be one or the other. The ivory-billed is the bird that, until last year, was thought to be extinct. Both are the largest woodpeckers in the U.S. The Pileated was on the endangered list at one time.

Anybody know any details about these birds? I have them on video.

h2co-pilot 11-22-2005 01:20 AM

Well, I am a certified bird specialist. I used to lead nature walks in Sea Shore State Park and had to complete a program. I know, I'm a Nerdburger.

Can you post stills from your video?

h2co-pilot 11-22-2005 02:09 AM

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I did a little comparison for you. If you don't have good visibility of the head, look for the white markings on the wings.

Either way, both are exciting.

PARAGON 11-22-2005 03:10 AM

http://www.pplus.com/woodpecker.wmv

it's the video. They are out about 150 yards give or take and it was getting dark. I've gone through and tried to pull stills and I can't get a good one.

h2co-pilot 11-22-2005 11:52 AM

So cool! Is that near your house?

It to me like the Pileated. But then again it could be an Ivory. They are so similar and all the pictures of the Ivory and Pileated are different. I would send the link in, wouldn't it be great.

This site from Cornell has field marks, mapping and how to report a sighting.

PARAGON 11-22-2005 12:06 PM

I videoed them while hunting. Thanks for the link. Everything fits for the Ivory-billed but I still can't be sure. I am going to try to get some better pictures and video. They are extremely skittish and are hard to snap a picture of.

h2co-pilot 11-22-2005 12:38 PM

Hunting?! P - you *******.

The video you shot was great. In fact I commented on it while watching it, I would have been all over the place. Do you think you can find them again?

PARAGON 11-22-2005 01:20 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I videoed them while hunting. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


If you had shot one, you'd know for sure

S </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

PARAGON 11-22-2005 01:32 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Hunting?! P - you *******.

The video you shot was great. In fact I commented on it while watching it, I would have been all over the place. Do you think you can find them again? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I have a little tripod I use that mounts onto my stands. Otherwise the video would have been all jerky at that distance.

I am pretty sure these are two younger birds. This was in a field that borders a white oak bottomland. I see them about every year while hunting, but this is the first that I have seen two males running around together.

Once it gets further into winter and more of the leaves get off the trees, I'll be able to get better close-up shots of them to verify what they are.

What's sad is that they were in a tree that was torn up by the hurricane that's about 50 yards from my stand. I could see them perfectly except I was looking up through the canopy of the cedar tree I was in. The camera wouldn't focus on anything but the cedar limbs.

Klaus 11-23-2005 10:28 AM

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I think you have Pileated Woodpeckers. Watching the video, it looks like your birds have quite a bit of white markings on their heads, and not much white showing on their bodies.

Here's another pic of Pileated Woodpeckers.

PARAGON 11-23-2005 01:53 PM

That white underside makes it look like it is indeed the Pileated. When they fly you can see splotches of white on the underside of the wing. With the Ivory-billed, the entiriety of the feathers along the trailing edge of the wings are white.

Thanks for the pic Klaus, that's the first one I've seen that looks closer to what I think they look like.

I'll be hunting the same area this weekend and see if I can get some better shots of them.

MIZZOU H2 12-13-2005 06:03 PM

Yeah dont shoot thoes things, they dont eat worth a sh*t. Trust me, Im from missouri!


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