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Old 08-04-2005, 06:54 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
First, I'll end your confusion. The H3 is the first vehicle I have encountered that is required to have the NHTSA mandated monitoring system and also goes off-road. Obviously the Vette does not qualify and I am quite aware of previous monitoring systems. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Put that way, I understand your statement.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
The problem here is that this system is not separate and is tied to the data bus and can be programmed and it's the programming that I find fault with. You spent way too much time on an oversimplification of the issue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
No, I replied to a thread that had statements made that were inaccurate. If it was too long, you didn't have to read it. However, I felt that your statements about the averaging system, the ambiguous statement about sensors, the sarcastic remark about my employer, etc., required answering.
Let's get one thing straight, I am not here to argue; however, if I read something that is wrong, I will try and correct the inaccuracies made by those who THINK they know the laws and regulations of this country. (Sorry, law school does that to someone.)
Now, back to your statements and questions.
Yes it is tied to the data bus used between computers, it was only logical to use this type of system to save costs by using existing technology and systems already installed on the vehicle.
However, I must stress again, will any manufacturer take the risk of a large liability law suit just to suit a few off-roaders? I know that personally I would not.
Remember, installing the switch would allow anyone to turn the system off. This includes the people who never check their tire pressures, the same people who roll over in their SUV. For those reasons, why would any manufacturer open themselves to this type of liability. The H3 will not be a primary off-road vehicle. This forum is small so it is a poor judgment of how many will actually off-road this vehicle. The majority of these vehicles will never see off-road conditions; same as the H2.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Also, you are simply providing the ammunition for my argument by providing the parameters by which the monitoring system does not update and alarm. Another set of parameters SHOULD accomodate, either when the truck is placed in LO-Locked or either use vehicle speed as the determiner. It's really that simple.

So, to go all the way back to my original statements and coupled with your comments, I fail to see why one should be getting the warning when aired down while off-road and if they are getting the warning why someone didn't have the forethought to program something to accomodate what the vehicle was designed for. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
To utilize vehicle speed or 4-wheel LO, would not satisfy the requirements you ask for.
Every year, I off-road in the deserts of the southwest; primarily in and around Moab, UT. On these trips I will lower my pressures but I do not necessarily stay in 4-wheel LO, I switch between HI and LO depending on the conditions I come across while on the trail. I also exceed speeds of approximately 35 mph at times while in HI. I do not want to have to stop and inflate or deflate the pressures on the same trail; too time consuming and not worth it.
Therefore, this type of system might be just as aggravating as not having it altogether. Besides, what speed to you set parameters?
I believe, but can't say for sure, all other off-road vehicle manufacturers will have the same complaints from serious off-roaders. All I can say is I will have to learn to live with it, or not deflate my tires.
As for our conversation, as far as I'm concerned it has now ended. I have no desire to drag this forum down to the level of arguing with a complete stranger. So, have a great day, and maybe you can see my point of view, as I see yours, and I will be aggravated as you are when reducing tire pressures (if I reduce tire pressures), and we both will have to learn to agree to disagree.
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