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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Grandman:
The last started in a park and wound down the the desert floor , when you looked back up you couldnt see the trail you came down at all . If you know the area well you most likely know the trails im speaking of . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If the park you are mentioning is Canyonlands, and it was a switchback road that you enter just as you enter the park, it was probably Schafer trail, that linked up to White Rim and Potash roads at the floor of the canyon above the Colorado River.
If it was straight and near Schafer trail, and had a bolder making an arch across the road, halfway down, it was Long Canyon Road.
Great roads for some photographs, but not what I would consider tough (hell, Michigan's paved roads are worse). I have been up both in high-clearance two-wheel drive pickup trucks, and Long Canyon can be traversed with a Lexus all-wheel drive SUV, just some decent ground clearance.
The other from town sounds like Kane Creek, and as someone already pointed out, that has become harder each year. Having only been there in the summer, never saw any water that could cause any problems. You turn by the McDonalds to get to Kane Creek (I believe).
I hate to say it, those are not the roads these guys are talking about. Someone said they puckered when traversing some of these trails. I got news for him, I could not pucker because something was trying to exit at the same time.
I never felt that way at Windrock or Tellico. Yes those are some nasty roads that can tear a vehicle apart, but these so-called off-roads around Moab can kill you, and destroy a vehicle.

I give anyone credit for traveling these trails, but to do it in a 30K plus H3 or better yet a 50K plus H2 shows some balls. To do it in a vehicle you have to drive home deserves even more credit.