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Well said Shaggy. The whole problem comes down to one simple answer. The parents take their kids to these shrinks and everything else because they don't want to admit that they are fcukups as parents. "It must be my child" they say. It ain't the fuking kids. They do what they do becuase the lazy a** parents do not want to set up boundaries. If the parents were spending their free time with the kids and not out smoking crack the kids would probably be somewhat normal.

I never once have spanked my kids but they know if they step out of line that their demented father will have them out cutting the grass with plastic scissors or sweeping the driveway with a paintbrush. They each had to do it once. They now really think hard when they are about to do something wrong. They know that I will come up with something creative and they won't like it.