[Scouts Out]

How did I miss this pissing battle? Lets start with the dude from the Army Transportation Corp (they really are the army truck drivers). As with rental cars, all military vehicles get abuse by the nature of the business, and if properly maintained they are great. My Battalion (yes MY battalion) has spent an entire rotation, 14 months in Iraq, and never had an issue with our HUMMERs because we had unit pride and a proactive maintenance plan. We owe many lives to our HUMMERS. They were never designed to haul 7 tons of armor around and did wear springs out. The Generals and Colonels did drive civilian vehicles around the FOB but never left the FOB in them. In Bosnia the VIPs drove the civilian vehicles for comfort. HUMMERs ride suck as far as comfort and are hotter than crap for long rides. Long rides .. as in from Kuwait to Tirkrit.... with out a single break down, in the Iraq summer...

I noticed all the Jeeps (and I do like and own and have owned Jeeps for a long time) are heavily modified as are Toys. I would guess the HUMMER guys, if they spent 50% of their vehicles worth on mods could make it even more capable. But Stock, there is no comparision except the Rubicon. Toys do have us on quality, but it comes down to what one likes and is willing to spend.

I wheel with all brands and we all have out strengths and weakness and we rib each other constantly but have fun and help each other all the time. With the people out there trying to limit off roading and wheeliing, we should work together to promote good wheeling