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Ok, well I've been told it's going to cost me $100 per light to have my lights wired which is bull****.
So where can I go to get DETAILED information about wiring my lights.
I have 4 on the roof and and 4 in the back.
All I have is the lights. No "relays" whatever the hell those are, or any other knowledge of wiring lights.
I have 3 switches I bought from Radio shack, but that's it.
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02-24-2004, 01:05 PM
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Ok, well I've been told it's going to cost me $100 per light to have my lights wired which is bull****.
So where can I go to get DETAILED information about wiring my lights.
I have 4 on the roof and and 4 in the back.
All I have is the lights. No "relays" whatever the hell those are, or any other knowledge of wiring lights.
I have 3 switches I bought from Radio shack, but that's it.
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02-24-2004, 03:58 PM
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Det- Do a search for lights and also do a Gobi Racks search(on the forum) as many wiring issues were addressed with the early Gobi rack threads. I printed out a bunch when I had mine done. 100$ a light is whack. I got my Gobi installed and wired with relays all for $375 (that's in New York by the way, you know where everything costs too much) I did not have it done by a dealer though. Just went to my local service station and gave the guy a couple of posts from the site to give him some insight as to how to do the job. If I have some time later I'll try and find the specific threads for you.
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02-24-2004, 04:05 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
Ok, well I've been told it's going to cost me $100 per light to have my lights wired which is bull****.
So where can I go to get DETAILED information about wiring my lights.
I have 4 on the roof and and 4 in the back.
All I have is the lights. No "relays" whatever the hell those are, or any other knowledge of wiring lights.
I have 3 switches I bought from Radio shack, but that's it.
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02-24-2004, 05:12 PM
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That is probably a very informative post. However, I don't know **** about wiring lights.
Which means:
I don't know what a relay is, which one to buy, or where I should look to buy one.
I know what a Positive supply from the battery is, but I don't know how I'll get it to the relay, or if I need to run one per relay, or how or what fuse to use.
I certainly don't know how to take a feed of a fuse or where that would plug into.
Not to sure about how to ground a light from the switch feed either.
So basically I can understand what you are saying, but I have no idea how to put it all together.
Know I know how my wife feels when I talk computer to her.
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02-24-2004, 06:14 PM
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Any decent alarm shop should be able to wire it up for you at a much better price.
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02-24-2004, 06:22 PM
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I got a quote from CarToys for $375. My wife made me go around and get other estimates saying that was a bit high.
Next I tried Dealership, figuring they would be the most knowledgable and do the "best" job. They wanted $50 per hour, and said they "think" it would take them at least 1 hour per light.
Then I tried another alarm shop that quoted me $600. I asked him why he was so expensive, and he started talking about each light needing seperate wiring, relay's, etc, etc... And he kept tossing jargon at me.
So I asked him why he was so expensive compared to CarToys. He basically said CarToys must not know what they are doing, and that I should call the "Mike's Off-Road" and get a quote from an Off Road shop for comparision.
Mike's was the one that quoted me $100 per light install.
So although CarToys gave me a "resonable" quote. I'm scared to take it to them now based on everyone else's estimates. It just seems like maybe CarToy's doesn't know what they are doing.
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02-24-2004, 10:42 PM
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Detonate, Phil D has it all right! I did 2 or 3 post for this MID-YEAR (SUMMER) look for them I give detailed instructions on wire size, Amp draw, What acessory line to pull power from ETC.
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02-25-2004, 12:31 AM
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Det,
Think of a relay as a draw-bridge if you will for power to the lights. The switch that you bought from radio shack just opens and closes the drawer bridge for the power to the lights. I am not trying to insult your intelligence with this post , only trying to help with the analogy. I believe if you can understand the purpose of each component you can do the install yourself and save the money. The hardest part is running all the wires.
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02-25-2004, 01:57 AM
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damn, I should be in the light business.
the toughest part of this is running the wires the right way and mounting the switches so it looks right. 1 relay per 2 lights and 1 switch can run up to 3 relays if you get one with the right current capability.
if you don't know anything about wiring...buy some beer and invite over somebody who does.
it is very simple to do, and I am sure either Phil on the beach or any number of people would do it for nothing...hell come by my house and I would do it for ya, and take pics and do a write up so everybody else could do it for free.
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02-25-2004, 10:54 AM
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Detonate,
FYI, I had my Gobi lighting system and grill guard lights installed for $100 and $50, respectively, at the Tint Shop in Greenville, Texas...done in one day. Great independant owner installer. Your about one hour away!
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02-25-2004, 11:28 AM
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Well, I've searched around on the forum and haven't found anthing that will break it down to my level.
In the orginal post I was asking if there was already a place I could go to get this info.
I don't want anyone going out of there way making diagrams and stuff for me.
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02-25-2004, 01:41 PM
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Detonate,
This link may be helpful to you:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ys/relays.html
It is actually about upgrading headlight wiring, but is relevant to auxiliary lighting as well.
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02-26-2004, 02:12 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by "Doc"-sqrd:
Detonate,
FYI, I had my Gobi lighting system and grill guard lights installed for $100 and $50, respectively, at the Tint Shop in Greenville, Texas...done in one day. Great independant owner installer. Your about one hour away!
"Doc"-sqrd
'03 Red, red grill, Gobi rack/spare tire/ladder, black chrome stuff, Warn 9500ti multimount frt/rr, Pioneer NAV system, Gobi frt/rr lights, brush guard lights, Xenarc HIDs, black chrome wheels waiting for 37" tires.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Do you have a name and number for these guys?
The Tint Shop seems to be a fairly common name for Tint companies, and I've had no luck in tracking them down for some reason.
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02-26-2004, 06:21 PM
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Hi Detonate,
Sorry for the confusion. "The Tint Shop", 8409 Wesley St, Greenville, TX 75402. Phone (903)455-TINT(8468). "Mike" is the owner.
Hope this helps.
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'03 Red, red grill, Gobi rack/spare tire/ladder, black chrome stuff, Warn 9500ti multimount frt/rr, Pioneer NAV system, Gobi frt/rr lights, brush guard lights, Xenarc HIDs, black chrome wheels waiting for 37" tires.
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02-27-2004, 01:13 AM
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I bought a set of KC lights for my brushguard, and the kit came with everything I needed. It wasn't difficult, but I have talked to guys who just didn't have the time and had an audio shop or aftermaket retailer do the install for a lot less than some of the numbers you guys are quoting. I got my KC's from the RealWheels web site, and, like I said....EASY!
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02-27-2004, 11:01 AM
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I think KC's and PIAA's come with Relays.
PIAA's were also like $200 a pair. The Maxtel's I got do not come with the relay's, but were $60 a pair.
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02-27-2004, 01:40 PM
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Detonate, it is nice to know that I am not the only one on this forum who is clueless about wiring. Funny thing is I can build an engine, but run lights.... nothing.
I am paying close attention to this thread as I have a Gobi Stealth and 6 PIAA's in the garage to install. Hopefully next week.
Post away please.
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