Black Wheels!

[MarineHawk]

I'm going to get some black wheels, but I have stumbled in the research/selection process. Any advice would be appreciated. I know there are several threads discussing wheels and sizes (e.g., http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=24630; http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=25226), but I can't find definitive answers to the following:

(1) What is the ideal wheel size for my 37x13.0x17 STTs? 17X9? 17X10?

Should I get ones with 4.5 inch backspacing? Or is 5.0 inch backspacing enough to reduce the rubbing substantially?

(2) What are some good options for basic, strong, black wheels? I want nothing decorative. Any good online source? When I try to look at various sites, I find very little per time spent searching, and I was wondering if some retailer has a site where I can just plug in "H2" and "black" and a bunch of black wheel options will come up.

(3) Aluminum or steel?

Thanks in advance for any info.

[MarineHawk]

Something like these?:

http://4wpw.com/PDT63916.aspx

http://4wpw.com/PDT64837.aspx

http://4wpw.com/PDT64887.aspx

[timgco]

NOt lifted 37 13.50 17 procomp extreme at mounted on 17 X 9 = rubbing...esp. wheeling.

17 X 9 rim with 5" backspace is better.

I ran 35 12.50 bfg MT's on 18 X 9 5" BS and just cleared when wheeling.

PM rod on here. He has 37 13.50's without a lift and I think he's fine.

[MarineHawk]

Thanks Timcgo.

Are you saying that, with 13.5" wide tires + 4.5" BS, you start to rub the outside of the tire on the fender? Is that why you recommend 5.0" BS?

My STTs are called "37x12.5s", but the Cooper specls list them as 13.1"wide. Consistent with that, they seem to be a little wider than the BFG MT 12.5s, but a little narrower than other 13.5" tires.

Is Pro Comp a good option? Do you think they have 17x9-8-6.5 wheels with 5.0" BS? I can only get a smattering of options from different websites? The current Pro Comp website is under construction. And solme retailers have some sizes of wheels, while other retailers have some different sizes of wheels available. It's maddening.

[Adam in CO]

Rock Crawler Series 97 17x9

[KKilo1323]

Originally Posted by Adam in CO

Rock Crawler Series 97 17x9

That set up looks sick....what size tires are you running and what brand? Any rubbing?? Thanks!

[MarineHawk]

Thanks Adam. It looks like you just removed the chrome-looking center cap thingy. Does that just pop right off?

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by PhilD

5" BS moves the tire closer to the frame than 4.5". With 13.5" tires, the 1/2" BS difference is unlikely to make any difference to potentially rubbing on the fender well at full lock, but 5" may result in some rubbing on the frame and sway bar.

Thanks Phil. Am I reaching the correct conclusion then that, with my 13.1"-wide tires, I'm probably okay with 4.5" BS?

[KenP]

Marine, yep. You might get a little rubbing on the swaybar, but that's normal.

Originally Posted by PhilD

I just put some Procomps on my JK and like them

Out of the closet, eh?

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by KenP

Marine, yep. You might get a little rubbing on the swaybar, but that's normal.

Thanks Ken. I already have the sway bar rubbing. If I still have some of that when I move the tires out an inch, it will be less swaybar rubbing, right? I'm just concerned that I will end up with rubbing on the fender or something, but, looking at my tires now, I don't think moving them out an inch will do that. I hope I'm not wrong.

[OffRoadin]

Sorry for reviving an old thread... But I'm looking into getting new wheels/tires. So here are my questions...

1. My H2 is completely stock as of now, and at full lock on pavement I can already feel it rubbing. Is this normal?
2. I was looking at the AR Mojave Teflons in 18x9.5 I am still undecided on whether I get 35/36/37" tires... I want more ground clearance and more tire will help with that, but what modifications will need to be done to fit the 36/37" tires on the car. I read somewhere that I need a torsion key(?) for the front to fit bigger tires.
3. Do the Mojaves come with diffrent backspacing? If so what is the ideal setup for running 13.5" wide tires.
4. I've read that people lower the air pressure when off roading to increase grip, will I run into problems reducing air pressure on the 9.5" wheel as oppsed to 8.5 or 9" wheels. With the 9.5" wheels I have to run a minimum of 13.5" tires?


Thanks

[jmsspratlin]

Originally Posted by Adam in CO

Rock Crawler Series 97 17x9

NICE!

[Alan06SUT]

Originally Posted by OffRoadin

Sorry for reviving an old thread... But I'm looking into getting new wheels/tires. So here are my questions...

1. My H2 is completely stock as of now, and at full lock on pavement I can already feel it rubbing. Is this normal? mine rubs the swaybar on one side w/ stock 35's on.
2. I was looking at the AR Mojave Teflons in 18x9.5 I am still undecided on whether I get 35/36/37" tires... I want more ground clearance and more tire will help with that, but what modifications will need to be done to fit the 36/37" tires on the car. I read somewhere that I need a torsion key(?) for the front to fit bigger tires. No, 37'sx12.50 should fit with out any mods at all
3. Do the Mojaves come with diffrent backspacing? If so what is the ideal setup for running 13.5" wide tires.
4. I've read that people lower the air pressure when off roading to increase grip, will I run into problems reducing air pressure on the 9.5" wheel as oppsed to 8.5 or 9" wheels. With the 9.5" wheels I have to run a minimum of 13.5" tires? Most people air down to around 20 psi for extra grip. I do 25 psi since i have broken a bead before, but it depends on your tire and its sidewall, etc as to what is ideal (type of terrain is another factor in what pressure is ideal).


Thanks

IMO, I would just stick with a 12.50 width on stock backspacing so you dont have issues w/clearance. If you have air susp. the wider tires will rub and break the sensors during seroius wheeling. A 12.50 will even do this sometimes. My 37 x12.50 Coopers gave me about 1.5" of extra clearance which means they actually were 3" taller than my stock tires. That little 1.5" makes a big difference when wheeling though.

[xtremh2]

here's mine kmc rockstars 22's with mud grapplers

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by Alan06SUT

... i have broken a bead before ...

On what type of tire? I assume not your Coopers, right? I've run my Coopers at 14 PSI for two days at Paragon before without breaking a bead (this was done by accident, relying on someone else's handywork; now I always check them myself).

[Alan06SUT]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

On what type of tire? I assume not your Coopers, right? I've run my Coopers at 14 PSI for two days at Paragon before without breaking a bead (this was done by accident, relying on someone else's handywork; now I always check them myself).

The stock BFG's broke the bead at about 17PSI. I dont think it does any good to go lower than 20 PSI considering the weight of our vehicles. Also, you start to noticably loose ground clearance beyond that.

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by Alan06SUT

The stock BFG's broke the bead at about 17PSI. I dont think it does any good to go lower than 20 PSI considering the weight of our vehicles. Also, you start to noticably loose ground clearance beyond that.

I agree totally. I didn't intend to go below 20 psi--someone told me their Stauns would take them down to 20 psi, but it obviously went a lot lower. I do think that the Coopers will hold a bead better than the ATs because of the thicker sidewall though. This is what it looked like: