H3 Specs

[Sharkster]

Okay... now I'm confused. On the official website (www.hummer.com) it says that the width of the H3 is 74.7 in. (see H3 > SPECS & FEATURES on the HUMMER homepage).

On the homepage of this website it says (HERE) that the H3 is 85.5 in.

In this official HUMMER flyer, it also says that the car is 85.5 in.

All statements appear to be "official" and were measured "excluding mirrors". Which statement is correct? 85.5 in and 74.7 is a BIG difference in width. Will the H3 be a mini-Offroader? I always thought that its size is comparable to e.g. a Cayenne or a VW Touareg. But with a width of 74.7 and a length of 186.7 (incl. rear spare tire) it appears to be too small to look like a serious Offroader.

Can anyone of those who actually saw the car confirm the dimensions of the H3? Is there a reliable source for the true width of the H3? I mean... HUMMER.COM should be the most reliable source... but they say it's only 74.7 in.

[Sharkster]

Okay... now I'm confused. On the official website (www.hummer.com) it says that the width of the H3 is 74.7 in. (see H3 > SPECS & FEATURES on the HUMMER homepage).

On the homepage of this website it says (HERE) that the H3 is 85.5 in.

In this official HUMMER flyer, it also says that the car is 85.5 in.

All statements appear to be "official" and were measured "excluding mirrors". Which statement is correct? 85.5 in and 74.7 is a BIG difference in width. Will the H3 be a mini-Offroader? I always thought that its size is comparable to e.g. a Cayenne or a VW Touareg. But with a width of 74.7 and a length of 186.7 (incl. rear spare tire) it appears to be too small to look like a serious Offroader.

Can anyone of those who actually saw the car confirm the dimensions of the H3? Is there a reliable source for the true width of the H3? I mean... HUMMER.COM should be the most reliable source... but they say it's only 74.7 in.

[PARAGON]

I seriously doubt the width is an inch or so shy of the H1 and wider than the H2, so I would bet the 74" number would be more accurate. I did a google search and several mags and sites have it different. Some say 74" and some say 85". Maybe the 85" number does indeed include the mirrors.

[bparker]

Not to start an argumen, but I strongly disagree with this statement.

I offer the Jeep Wrangler and Cherokee as examples.

We need to see it and drive it offroad before making any conclusions. =)

I spoke to a Hummer marketing employee and he said that the H3 will actually be more capable and will be more intended for offroad beatings than the H2. Now obvoiusly I am not taking any stock in that statement but I was surprised to hear it from Hummer directly. We will just have to see what it can do when it gets here.

[quote]it appears to be too small to look like a serious Offroader.[quote]

[Sharkster]

I'm just wondering which size is correct, since both statements are from official sources (HUMMER flyer and HUMMER website). Yet they contradict each other. The thing is that you can actually guess how much space you have inside an H3 if you know the exact dimensions.

Unfortunately most sources on the web contradict each other when stating the width, but it's always stated as "excluding mirrors".

[PARAGON]

<Table>
<H2 align=center><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><FONT size=4>2006
HUMMER H3 SPECIFICATIONS from ROCKCRAWLER.COM</FONT></FONT></H2>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Overview</FONT></P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Model:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>HUMMER H3
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Body style /
driveline:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4-door, 5-passenger hard-top
4-wheel-drive </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>EPA vehicle class:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Midsize sport
utility</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Construction:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Welded steel frame, electro
galvanized steel</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Manufacturing location:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Shreveport,
Louisiana</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%" height=13>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Key competitors:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%" height=13>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Toyota 4Runner; Jeep Grand
Cherokee, Nissan Xterra, BMW X3 </FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellSpacing=0
cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0 HSPACE="12" VSPACE="12">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Engine </FONT></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%"><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Vortec 3500</FONT></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Type: </FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>3.5L inline 5-cylinder
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Displacement (cu in /
cc):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>211 /
3460</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Bore &amp; stroke (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>3.66 x 4 / 93 x
102</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Block
material:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>A356-T6 lost foam cast
aluminum</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Cylinder head
material:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>A356-T6 lost foam cast
aluminum</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Valvetrain:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>dual overhead camshafts,
continuously variable exhaust valve timing, 4 valves-per-cylinder, with dual
balance shafts</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Ignition
system:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>distributorless electronic
spark, coil-on-plug, platinum-tipped spark plugs</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Fuel delivery:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>multipoint sequential fuel
injection</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Compression ratio:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>10.0:1</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>220 / 164 @ 5600
(estimated.)</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>225 / 305 @ 2800
(estimated.)</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Recommended
fuel:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>87 octane
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Maximum engine speed
(rpm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>6300</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Emissions
controls:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>dual "split converter"
design; LEV II </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%" height=12>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Est. fuel economy (auto
city):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%" height=12>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>16 mpg*</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">
<P align=right><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>(auto
hwy):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>20
mpg*</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
<P align=left><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>*based on
preliminary GM tests</FONT></P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0>
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Transmissions</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>MA5</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Hydra-Matic
4L60-E</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Type:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>5-speed manual
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4-speed
automatic</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Gear ratios
(:1):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>First:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>3.75</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>3.06</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Second:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>2.20</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>1.63</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Third:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>1.37</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>1.00</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Fourth:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>1.00</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>0.70</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Fifth:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>0.73</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>--</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Reverse:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>3.67</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>2.29</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Stall ratio:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>N/A</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>1.90</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Final drive axle
ratio:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4.10</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4.56</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Low range lock gear
reduction:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>2.64</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4.03</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Crawl ratio
(range):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="29%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>33 to 69</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="31%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>33 to
69</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Chassis/Suspension</FONT></P>
<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellSpacing=0
cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0 HSPACE="12" VSPACE="12">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>independent SLA torsion bar,
46-mm mono-tube gas-charged shocks, 36-mm tubular stabilizer
bar</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear: </FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>"Hotchkiss" design
multileaf, semi-elliptical single-stage leaf spring, 46-mm mono-tube gas-charged
shocks, 25-mm rear solid diameter stabilizer bar</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Steering type:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>power-assisted
rack-and-pinion, with tri-bushing mount design </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Steering ratio:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>17:1 </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Steering wheel turns,
lock-to-lock: </FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>3.25</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Turning circle, curb-to-curb
(ft / m): </FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>37 /
11.3</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Brakes</FONT></P>
<TABLE style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellSpacing=0
cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0 HSPACE="12" VSPACE="12">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Type: </FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>electro-hydraulic power
4-wheel disc, 4-wheel anti-lock, four-piston opposed (fixed) front caliper/
single piston sliding rear caliper with Dynamic Rear
Proportioning</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rotor diameter x thickness
(in / mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>12.4 x 1.1 / 315 x
28</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>12.28 x 0.47 / 312 x
12</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Total swept area (sq in / sq
cm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">
<P align=justify><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>69.4 / 448
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">
<P align=justify><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>51 /
328</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Wheels/Tires</FONT></P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0 HSPACE="12" VSPACE="12">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Wheel size &amp;
type:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>16-inch x 7.5-inch
aluminum</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Tires:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>std: P265/75R16 all terrain
steel-belted Goodyear radials </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>opt: LT285/75R16C
on-/off-road Bridgestone radials (with ZM6 Off-Road Adventure
package)</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="40%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="60%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Same full-size spare as
the tires on the vehicle </FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Dimensions</FONT></P>
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<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Exterior:
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Wheelbase (in / mm):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>111.9 / 2842
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Overall length w/ spare and
33-inch tires (in / mm): </FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>186.7 /
4742</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Overall width (in / mm):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>85.5 / 2170.5
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Overall height (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>74.5 / 1893
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Track (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>65 /
1651</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>65.5 /
1664</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Minimum ground clearance
front (in / mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>9.1 /
231</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Step-in height (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 32-inch tires: 24 /
609.2</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 33-inch tires: 24.7 /
609.2</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 32-inch tires: 24.5 /
623.5</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 33-inch tires: 25.3 /
643.5</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>RTI</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>21.7</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Approach angle
(degrees):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 32-inch tires:
38</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 33-inch tires:
40</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Departure angle (degrees):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 32-inch tires : 36
</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 33-inch tires:
37</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Breakover angle (degrees):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 32-inch tires: 24
</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ 33-inch tires:
25</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Grade capability
(percent):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>60 </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Side slope capability
(degree):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>40 </FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Water fording capability
(in/ mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>(at 20 mph / 32 km/h):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>16 /
407</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>(at 5 mph / 8 km/h):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>24 /
610</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Curb weight (auto trans)
(lb/ kg):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4700 /
2132</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"
size=2>Interior</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Seating
capacity:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>5</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Head room (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ sunroof: 39.9 / 1013
</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/o sunroof: 40.6 / 1032
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/ sunroof: 37.9 /
963.5</FONT></P>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>w/o sunroof: 39.9 / 1013
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Leg room (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>41.9 /
1063</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>35 /
890</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Shoulder room (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>54.4 /
1381.3</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>53.5 /
1358</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Hip room (in /
mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Front:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>53.9 /
1370</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>53.5 /
1358</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Capacities</FONT></P>
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=7 width=583 border=0 HSPACE="12" VSPACE="12">
<TBODY>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Cargo capacity (rear seat
up) (cu ft / L):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear seat
up:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>29.5 /
835.3</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear seat
down:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>55.7 /
1577</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%"></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Cargo area length (at floor)
(in / mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear seat
up:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>32 /
810.5</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Rear seat
down:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>63.5 /
1614</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Cargo area height (rear
floor to headliner) (in/mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>37 / 939
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Cargo area width between
wheelhouses (in / mm):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>42.1 / 1070
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>GVWR, standard (lb / kg):
</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>5850 / 2654
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Payload, base (lb /
kg):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>1150 / 521.6
(estimated)</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Fuel tank (gal
/L):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>23 / 87
</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Engine oil (qt /
L):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%"></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>5-speed
manual:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>6 / 5.7</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4-speed
automatic:</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>6 / 5.7</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Maximum trailer weight (lb /
kg):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>4500 / 2041
(estimated)</FONT></P></TD></TR>
<TR>
<TD vAlign=top width="55%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Maximum tongue weight (lb /
kg):</FONT></P></TD>
<TD vAlign=top width="45%">


<FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Up to 400 / 182
(estimated)</FONT></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></Table>

[Sharkster]

Thanks for posting the specs, Paragon. However, this does not help us with the question, why it says 74.7 in for "width" on the official HUMMER.COM website.

If we assume that the info on hummer.com is WRONG and your info is correct, then the H3 would be 4 inches WIDER than the H2. Again... go to HUMMER.com, select H3 (from the top navigation bar) and then select "Specs and Features" from the drop-down-menu. On that page, scroll down a little bit and you can read: "Width: 74.7 in. (excluding mirrors)".

I did this photoshop pic, which actually shows that A) 85.5 in. might indeed be the correct width and B) that the mirrors don't make much of a difference to the width.

Of course there is a little "viewpoint" issue here, since the roof is further away from the camera, than the front grille. Still... it might fit a width of 85.5 in.

[PARAGON]

I really think it's the mirror thing that is the difference. The dims from above says overall width with no mention of the mirrors is 85.5" and that the front track width is 65". That would be alot of overhang outside of the tires given the way the truck looks and the track with is usually outside of tire to outside of tire.

A GMC Canyon's width is about 67" so I am really really thinking the 74" number would have to be the deal w/o mirrors and, I guess, 85" with mirrors.

[Sharkster]

I agree that 74.7" is more likely to be the true width. BUT (there's always a but...) this would mean that the official H3-flyer is WRONG, when it says that the car is 85.5" inches wide EXCLUDING MIRRORS (and I have to say that I NEVER saw a printed flyer, which had wrong information in it, while I saw a lot of info on the internet, which was wrong).

Also please note that due to the wide fenders of the H3, the mirrors almost don't make any difference to the H3's overall width. Just look at the pic below.

I guess we wont find out, before it really hits the market. But it's a little surprising that so many people have already placed their order, when not even the dimensions of the car have been clearly communicated yet.

Edit: Maybe it's 74.7" in the middle (i.e. w/o the mirrors or the fenders), but 85.5" with the fenders (i.e. at the front)? Because you can clearly see that the car is more narrow in the middle, than it is at the front and at the rear end).

[Sharkster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
but not in that picture due to the perspective the camera is taking the pic from. The mirrors are a few feet behind the front grill, this will cause some size inaccuracies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is generally true... but in certain aspects, the H3 design is highly different from the H2's design. It's obvious that the H3 is wider at the front- and rear end, than it is in the middle (due to the "attached" fenders). Also the cabin of the H3 is more formed like an "A", where it becomes more narrow towards the top end. The H2's cabin is more like an "H", where the whole car has almost the same width through the entire front view. Thus the mirrors actually DO make a bigger difference with the H2, but not so much with the H3. Look at this pic.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sharkster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
but not in that picture due to the perspective the camera is taking the pic from. The mirrors are a few feet behind the front grill, this will cause some size inaccuracies. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is generally true... but in certain aspects, the H3 design is highly different from the H2's design. It's obvious that the H3 is wider at the front- and rear end, than it is in the middle (due to the "attached" fenders). Also the cabin of the H3 is more formed like an "A", where it becomes more narrow towards the top end. The H2's cabin is more like an "H", where the whole car has almost the same width through the entire front view. Thus the mirrors actually DO make a bigger difference with the H2, but not so much with the H3. Look at this pic. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is the only rear shot that shows how far the mirrors stick out. You may have to save this and open it in paint to zoom in to see.

[PARAGON]

Don't worry yourself anymore. It's a misprint in the brochure (confirmed by Hummer). The 74" number is the width without mirrors but it couldn't be confirmed that the 85" number included the mirrors.

To compare the inside you need to look at the hip and shoulder room number above that is around 54" while the H2 is about 10" more.

[Sharkster]

Thanks for the precise info, Paragon. This brochure caused quite a lot of confusion. Someone should ask LynchHUMMMER to remove that brochure from their website... I could imagine that someone ordering an H3 (through Lynch) would be disappointed otherwise.

EDIT: Oh... and it should also be changed on the homepage of h3source.com (HERE). Because it says 85.5 excluding mirrors there too.