Towing Question

[Agriv8r]

Although the posted rating is 6700 with a tongue wieght of 670, a customer owning a Boat sales dealership weekly tows a 35' Scarrab with no trouble. He states that the weight far exceeds the owners manual reccomendation.

[PARAGON]

So, if I come see you this summer, think he will take us out and run around up in the bay being H2 brethren and all

[PARAGON]

Mine barely makes it over 200 and it's for a short time when working hard. I'm still amazed at how the wide range of tranny cooling.

Mine's stock, no aftermarket cooler.

[It\'s a Dry Heat]

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[It\'s a Dry Heat]

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[Big Z]

I am to assume if you are asking questions here, you want to know real world experiences and realize that the manufacturer is going to err on the side of caution.

Your right, been thru it before! lol I tow a lot of chit around, and, of course, can only reply with MY, "Real World" experience.

realize that the manufacturer is going to err on the side of caution

--Give us some Numbers Please--for real!--800#-1000# tongue weight??---10-12-14,000# tow Cap??

YOU SURE DON'T WANT TO ERROR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY! or common sense--Yours or others!

So!, Fk It! The Sky's the limit! if you can put a ball on the hitch thingy, You-CAN DOOOO It! Yank That Park Model! You CANNOT HURT THE H2! It--It-It's Like Nothing Else!

Ah, but what the hell--I'm getting a new SUT, and mounting a Goose Neck on er!--I just Know It'll take It! That Mighty Small Block, Bullet proof Drivetrain, strikingly good looks! And Exceptional Braking System-- I'm Sold!

Tell a newb, they can do it! Chances Are!------

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Big Z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I am to assume if you are asking questions here, you want to know real world experiences and realize that the manufacturer is going to err on the side of caution.

Your right, been thru it before! lol I tow a lot of chit around, and, of course, can only reply with MY, "Real World" experience.

realize that the manufacturer is going to err on the side of caution

--Give us some Numbers Please--for real!--800#-1000# tongue weight??---10-12-14,000# tow Cap??

YOU SURE DON'T WANT TO ERROR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY! or common sense--Yours or others!

So!, Fk It! The Sky's the limit! if you can put a ball on the hitch thingy, You-CAN DOOOO It! Yank That Park Model! You CANNOT HURT THE H2! It--It-It's Like Nothing Else!

Ah, but what the hell--I'm getting a new SUT, and mounting a Goose Neck on er!--I just Know It'll take It! That Mighty Small Block, Bullet proof Drivetrain, strikingly good looks! And Exceptional Braking System-- I'm Sold!

Tell a newb, they can do it! Chances Are!------ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>as with everything in life, it's not all black and white, hence common sense.

If you can't figure it out for yourself that there are other things besides capability and safety behind a vehicles tow rating, then it's all moot. You want to go by the book, fine. It's quite easy for whomever to read the book to get their answers and that's all you've done is quote manufactured stated ratings.

And I gave some numbers, as did others. Did you miss that part?

I'm guessing those of us that go offroad should heed the manufacturers ratings there too just to err on the side of safety. Since we are apparently too stupid to use common sense.

[Big Z]

ROFLMAO! Thought I gave some real #'s!

If you can't figure it out for yourself that there are other things besides capability and safety behind a vehicles tow rating, then it's all moot. You want to go by the book, fine. It's quite easy for whomever to read the book to get their answers and that's all you've done is quote manufactured stated ratings.

Really! YOU ASSUME WAY TO MUCH!!--(must be long term memory loss!) lol

What do you want to hear or see?!

That, towing weights over 5K# will nearly DOUBLE fuel consumption (depending on terrain), or that it's best to just leave it in 3rd gear/tow haul mode, so it's not constantly shifting, or (on the experience side) that I log more hour a year driving a house, and TOWING My H, than most people tow in years!
Launch the boat more a month than most tow in a year!--Now this is gettin fun! Plenty more, but WHY?

Speaking of Armchair bookwork!
Everyone-(novice to Know It All) could Get something out of this read! And, Do You REALLY KNOW, Your Tongue Weight?--I Do!

http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm

I'm guessing those of us that go offroad should heed the manufacturers ratings there too just to err on the side of safety. Since we are apparently too stupid to use common sense.

Now that's some funny Chit! ROFL I guess I can't be part of the off road crowd! Even though, I've broke my rig--ALSO!--before most others here! LOL

Really need to put this into perspective! capability and safety ARE!, A BIG PART of Towing!

I'm done! lol Time for a beer! I'll Buy!

[PARAGON]

I'm suggesting a wee bit of a chill.

Never said you didn't offroad, didn't say you don't have experience. But there are a lot of variables that are just being swept away here in an attempt to make this simply cut and dry and it's not.

I've been towing for 20 years and have yet to get a tongue weight. As I stated before in this thread, it's about proper balance and the 10-15% rule does not apply to all trailers. If you don't use common sense and simply use books, you'll make mistakes.

Prime example is many older U-haul trailers that had a single axle that was too far forward. It required more weight loaded forward of the axle (more tongue weight than 15%) to keep it from swaying and wrecking some of the vehicles they were sticking them behind.

[raptor2ride]

Well running trany temp of 225 may wear it out sooner than 100. However more, or harder work on ANYTHING mechanical will wear it out faster so that is irrelevant.I know there are people here with common sense and mechanical aptitude. I am a mechanical contractor and have lots of friends in many trades. If you change your trany fluid and add Lucas additive it will help lengthen the trany life.
Yes, there is a difference with printed numbers and stats thats "SAFE", and the "real" world. My manual for my utility quad says to never let water get more than half way above the tires, HAAA yah right!
As far as tongue weight, that is what a WEIGHT DISTRIBUTUION hitch is for!

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by Big Z:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I am to assume if you are asking questions here, you want to know real world experiences and realize that the manufacturer is going to err on the side of caution.

Your right, been thru it before! lol I tow a lot of chit around, and, of course, can only reply with MY, "Real World" experience.

realize that the manufacturer is going to err on the side of caution

--Give us some Numbers Please--for real!--800#-1000# tongue weight??---10-12-14,000# tow Cap??

YOU SURE DON'T WANT TO ERROR ON THE SIDE OF SAFETY! or common sense--Yours or others!

So!, Fk It! The Sky's the limit! if you can put a ball on the hitch thingy, You-CAN DOOOO It! Yank That Park Model! You CANNOT HURT THE H2! It--It-It's Like Nothing Else!

Ah, but what the hell--I'm getting a new SUT, and mounting a Goose Neck on er!--I just Know It'll take It! That Mighty Small Block, Bullet proof Drivetrain, strikingly good looks! And Exceptional Braking System-- I'm Sold!

Tell a newb, they can do it! Chances Are!------ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Big Z what have you towed with your H2?

[Big Z]

A couple shown here.

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/5106011751/m/6...826070355#5826070355

[Hart1]

What Can I tow?

I tow a 23' Safari Airstream with no problem. The above site helped me to understand what I could tow based on my wheel base length (just over 122,), and, how to use weight calculations when loading up your trailer.

Watch out, in most states, if you are involved in an accident and it has been determined that you exceeded your vehicle's towing limits, your insurance can deny your claims and you can be prosecuted.

Hope this helps.

[Dug]

I generally put enough weight on the rear hitch until the front tires come off the ground. Then i add weight to the roof and front hitch to level her back off. She (H2) seems to haul around 19-20K pounds alright. I have a redneck tranny cooler , its called take the grille out on long trips . And when the motor get so hot its pinging turn on the heat for twenty miles or stop at pizza hut and let'er cool down. Believe me. Doug

[Big Z]

roflmao Now that yar sum funy chit!---Don't care who ya are!

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Big Z:
roflmao Now that yar sum funy chit!---Don't care who ya are!

does the H2 accumulate miles when you flat tow it?

[Big Z]

Nope! Also Why I get 20+MPG!

[KenP]

Originally posted by Augnmike:
Hi guys, I know this has been discussed a million times here but frankly I never paid much attention since I never towed anything big before. I am considering buying a toy hauler for three atv's and dirt bike. Total weight for these is 1300 lbs. The sales guys are giving me crap about having an H2 saying there isn't much I can tow with it. Seems like total weight for everything I have looked at comes in around 6800-7400 lbs. Those are loaded weights. Can you guys advise me on what I can and can't do safely?

Yes, you will be able to tow it. Have a trailer brake and use the Tow/Haul button.

[SnakeH2]

Originally Posted by Dug

I generally put enough weight on the rear hitch until the front tires come off the ground. Then i add weight to the roof and front hitch to level her back off. She (H2) seems to haul around 19-20K pounds alright. I have a redneck tranny cooler , its called take the grille out on long trips . And when the motor get so hot its pinging turn on the heat for twenty miles or stop at pizza hut and let'er cool down. Believe me. Doug