Possible move to Salt Lake City, UT

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by NEOCON1

nov , dec , jan lows in the teens and 20's but do get some highs to 50-60 range lately mid 20's for the low and mid 50's for the high . i thought maybe the FEW you were asking about was the # of wives you can have you can really rack up the ex's here

DAM, my disability check only goes so far, and you want me to have more XXXXX...

RYD

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

look in Bountiful....

You can buy anything from 150K to 1.5M. More large parcels there, minumum 1/4 acre.....


I used to board my Gelding out there, I really liked it.

OUCH !!!

That hurts.

RYD

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by partsguy

Is it true you can have as many wives as you want?

Now that I think about it why would that be a good thing.

Your lookin for trouble...trust me

RYD

[K9sH3]

Originally Posted by H3.007

Does anyone have real estate guide suggestions

www.homesandland.com

[H3.007]

Thanks for the updates and words of wisdom

If I may, I'd like to ask a more sensitive question. I have now spoken to a couple of folks who used to live out there. They indicated that if you are not of the Mormon faith, you should really stay out of that area. One gave an example of his business being black listed because he was not of the faith. Another stated that hiring services, such as contractors, can be a real nightmare also if you are not of the faith.
Is this true or just stereotyped hype?

While I am not of the faith, I am a big believer in religious freedom. In other words, I don't tread on others unless they tread on me...

[dochummer]

Hype.

Most mormons also believe in religious freedom - ie, that's why they settled the Salt Lake area. You have to understand though, that the religion has a very open proselyting system in place, and they are very eager to share their beliefs. It doesn't give them an excuse however to not be respectful of others. If they are, in fact, black-listing business' because of faith, then they're not practicing what they're preaching.

Like Neo said, there are a lot more non-mormons that live in the area than you would expect. I personally liked living there when I did....more because of the outdoor activities available. Most people were genuinely nice to you....more so than where I live now....

Originally Posted by H3.007

Thanks for the updates and words of wisdom

If I may, I'd like to ask a more sensitive question. I have now spoken to a couple of folks who used to live out there. They indicated that if you are not of the Mormon faith, you should really stay out of that area. One gave an example of his business being black listed because he was not of the faith. Another stated that hiring services, such as contractors, can be a real nightmare also if you are not of the faith.
Is this true or just stereotyped hype?

While I am not of the faith, I am a big believer in religious freedom. In other words, I don't tread on others unless they tread on me...

[dochummer]

Oh, and on the flip-side, I've actually heard of people saying they prefer not to come to my office because I'm mormon. - so I guess the door swings both ways......

[SHYANNE]

I would like to live there someday also. I was wandering what big companys are there to work at. Hey NEOCON I noticed you live in moab what kind of work did you find there when you moved there ?

Do you ski? Then you will be very happy.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by SHYANNE

I would like to live there someday also. I was wandering what big companys are there to work at. Hey NEOCON I noticed you live in moab what kind of work did you find there when you moved there ?

hey Shy , i started Rocky Mountain Firewood . during the winter i mostly sell to residents for their homes . but as soon as march rolls around i will be selling bundled wood for the tourists . i have a contact that owns a campground , he got my foot in the door and i just landed one of the two grociery stores in town . its hard work but its all mine im just happy to be out of the ratrace and traffic . i saw ventura county ca. go from rural in my childhood to the massive urban sprawl that is there today and decided it was time to get the heck out of there . too much traffic and too many people .

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by H3.007

Thanks for the updates and words of wisdom

If I may, I'd like to ask a more sensitive question. I have now spoken to a couple of folks who used to live out there. They indicated that if you are not of the Mormon faith, you should really stay out of that area. One gave an example of his business being black listed because he was not of the faith. Another stated that hiring services, such as contractors, can be a real nightmare also if you are not of the faith.
Is this true or just stereotyped hype?

While I am not of the faith, I am a big believer in religious freedom. In other words, I don't tread on others unless they tread on me...

As far as the Mormons in SLC goes; it is seriously no big deal. Yes they are by far the most predominate religion here. I have many friends that are, and many friends that are not. They don't act very different than anybody else. We are a very conservative red state though, that can be different, here in America.

The biggest thing seems to be, many live what they believe. That can seem strange to people not familiar with those beliefs. For an example, they don't drink alcohol, they don't drink coffee or smoke. They don't cuss very much and they can go to several different meetings a week depending what they do in the church. The Mormon church doesn't have "clergy", the members hold all the positions in the church until you get up to the very top.

If you understand that is what they believe, it's not strange. Most people from outside here, get used to the way it is quickly and even learn the Mormon terminology, in order to understand what they are talking about.

I laughed about the girl question because they are very firm believers in family. One dad, one mom, lots of kids. Girls are raised to be modest both in the way they dress and behave. Many moms here do not work regular jobs, they stay home and raise the kids. They shuttle the kids to sports and school meetings and dance classes. It is kinda like the 50's in that regard. I like it, it's kinda innocent in a way that I preferred for my family. that's why I moved here after growing up in Denver and living in California with the Corps.

SLC has everything every other American city has, you will find whatever you go looking for. It has fantastic outdoor opportunities, and for me it is just the right size. It is big enough to have everything without being big enough to make getting around a pain in the butt.

Chris come on out, I would bet you love it! BUT stop making me tell everybody else! If word really gets out, traffic will get worse and they will learn a term unknown now, "lift lines". During the week here, there is no such thing.

[H3.007]

Thanks again for all of the info.

The Mormans almost sound like they live like the Amish do here. I have a great respect for the Amish. In fact, there are times I wish I could live their life - but I couldn't go without a beer, computer, and the H3. And the hairy women - YIKES. But as far as the Mormons, I think I'll write that off as "hype".

I communicated with a real estate agent this morning and I am awaiting a relocation package from the city.

So, if anyone knows of a real estate parcel that would be conducive to country and somewhat self-sufficent living, drop me a line. I do like my privacy and I wouldn't mind being able to drop a deer with a rifle from the back porch of my new home or to have an H3 trail in the backyard .

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

! BUT stop making me tell everybody else! If word really gets out, traffic will get worse and they will learn a term unknown now, "lift lines". During the week here, there is no such thing.

X2 LOL yea utah sux stay where your at


we gotta keep our lil bit of paradise a secret

[RuggedH2]

You're right Neo!

What does kinda piss me off, are the libs that come out here and love it because it is the way it is.

Then they start trying to change it to be the way it was, where they came from..... the same place they hated and wanted to move away from.

[deserth3]

By the sounds of it, welcome to Utah.

I grew up on the east coast, went to Cali then toured central US compliments of the military. This is where I ended up and stayed. That was 10 years ago.
All of the places that I've lived in have their own quirks as will Utah. The Mormans aren't as rustic as the Amish. You won't see horse drawn buggies, ect. Some Mormans do dress more plain than the rest of us but there are many levels of that and only occasionaly do you see anything close to the Amish style of dress.
There are some Mormans who think they are more devout living in Utah than those Mormans that live outside the state.
Moving to Utah and dealing with Mormans is harder on school age children than adults. But if they are active in school activities the transition will be easier.
If your single, dating out here can be interesting. in other places I've lived the first look you get or give is are you single. Out here it's are you Morman. Morman woman will date you but many are trained to also try to convert you. Of course I've also seen that with other major religions. There are also many woman ( both morman and nonmorman) out here who will start dating someone new before leaving the last person. At least that's been my experiance.
Offroading and the mountains make it all worth while. I live 30 miles North of SLC. 30 to 45 minute drive in any direction and I'm on dirt roads.
I know eastern Penn but not the western area. The mountains out here can seem bare next to Eastern Penn mountains. Also they are not as green. But the transitions and the color of the rocks and sandstone can be just awsome.

Make your realtor earn their pay for you. There are alot of new houses going up out here. Since your working in SLC take a look at Tooelle to the west. East of SLC you are in the mountains and 2 foot plus can be common in the winter and the drive out of the mountains can be rough in the winter. The valley runs north and south which seems where most of the commuters live. But they are putting in commuter trains running about 30 miles north and I believe they are starting to push south too. in the next few years there will also be a lot of land opening on the West side of the valley. This land used to be owned my Kenicot mines. But in the near future will be opened for developement.
OK, for all of you who are tired of reading this dialog, I'll shut up. It's almost time to go to sleep anyway. And sleep is always a good thing.

[dochummer]

"There are also many woman ( both morman and nonmorman) out here who will start dating someone new before leaving the last person."

Ha! I remember that!

[jp's-h3]

If you love the outdoor life, it's the place to be!