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11-22-2005, 03:54 AM
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Just curious. If Ford or Dodge bought the rights to the Hummer and made the Hummer practically the same as GM did, would you still have bought your H2??
I have always been a Chevy fan. Even though they may have their probs, I've had a vette conv, iroc, 69 camaro, along with various other GM vehicles - each had issues but made me a solid GM fan.
Other than GM, I like Dodge, especially when they brought back the Viper in 1992 (I think). The Durango and Ram trucks are nice too. Ford sucks in my opinion, other than the Mustang (had one of those too - they rock!) and Navigator. But the caddy Escalade kicks on the Navigator and the H2 just wipes out the Escalade.
Anyway, just curous if you would have still bought if GM was not the manufacturer. For example, imagine if Honda or Hyundia bought the Hummer name - I definately would not have bought it (got to stick to North American brands). Just try to same it, Honda Hummer (ha-ha-ha).
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11-22-2005, 03:54 AM
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Just curious. If Ford or Dodge bought the rights to the Hummer and made the Hummer practically the same as GM did, would you still have bought your H2??
I have always been a Chevy fan. Even though they may have their probs, I've had a vette conv, iroc, 69 camaro, along with various other GM vehicles - each had issues but made me a solid GM fan.
Other than GM, I like Dodge, especially when they brought back the Viper in 1992 (I think). The Durango and Ram trucks are nice too. Ford sucks in my opinion, other than the Mustang (had one of those too - they rock!) and Navigator. But the caddy Escalade kicks on the Navigator and the H2 just wipes out the Escalade.
Anyway, just curous if you would have still bought if GM was not the manufacturer. For example, imagine if Honda or Hyundia bought the Hummer name - I definately would not have bought it (got to stick to North American brands). Just try to same it, Honda Hummer (ha-ha-ha).
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11-22-2005, 04:37 AM
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Maybe.
Dodge probably would have had a diesel in the H2 by now.
If it were a Ford product I sure as Hell wouldn't have done 1/2 the stuff I've done with the GM product.  |
11-22-2005, 11:35 AM
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I would probably still buy one if it was built by Ford but not sure if it was built by Dodge. 10 or 15 years ago I wouldn't even have considered one if it was built by Dodge but they have come a long ways in that time. I have had far more GM vehicles in my life than any other maker but have had mostly Fords over the past 8 years. I have been very happy with them but the Hummers are like nothing else and I can't wait to get one.
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11-22-2005, 11:47 AM
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I don't think anyone could have done just a fine job making it look as good as GM did. It would be interesting to see what Ford and Dodge's version would have looked like though. Too bad they don't try and make a comparable version.
The Dodge Powerwagon pickup is a very capable off road truck with built in winch and front/rear elockers. It also has E-detaching swaybars for better articulation, bfg tires and some other cool stuff. It was real close to my next truck.
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11-22-2005, 12:14 PM
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Nope!
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11-22-2005, 01:26 PM
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Ford builds a damn good truck. The F150 is by far the best looking interior in a truck. What Ford lacks is the motor. That 5.4 w/ 3 Valves just doesn't have the poop that a pushrod motor has. Chevy has the best gas motors available.
Dodge has a great diesel motor, but everything it is wrapped in is sub-par to me. their interiors are horrible.
Pros and cons to everything. I like things on the Chevy..I like things on the Ford. No one makes the ultimate truck because everyone has different needs and tastes.
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11-22-2005, 01:48 PM
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Agree on the Ford vote. The interior of my EB Expy is way better than the H2. Agree on the "lack of HP" from Ford also.
Dodge would have put the Hemi in the H2 by now. Maybe even a SRT version with 425 BHP. Then the trans would have fallen out at 28K miles.
My thoughts though is that the Caddy division should have taken the Hummer project. Decent build quality, plenty of HP and 2nd row seats that recline. Life would be good.
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11-22-2005, 02:01 PM
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sell sell sell! 
I have never got a sexy feeling from DODGE or FORD products. I guess I am just a GM kind of guy! 
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11-22-2005, 02:06 PM
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Ford? Absolutely! I love my Fords. Compared to my first GM vehicle (H2), they never have to go to the shop! 
That being said, I think GM did a great job with the design. Ford would have screwed that part up, but at least they might have put a few more HP under the hood.
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11-22-2005, 02:59 PM
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The H1 Hummer use ford locks for the Ignition and the Doors. That why they are so Tuff
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11-22-2005, 06:10 PM
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No Ford. No Ford.
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11-22-2005, 06:12 PM
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Both Ford and dodge make some fine products, But I just seem to hate Ford. If Dodge made it I probably would buy it.
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11-22-2005, 06:50 PM
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The F150 in my opinion does have a great new interior but for the rest of the Ford Line up especially the rest of the truck line, it SUCKS. They haven't changed the style in nearly 30 years. The damn dash looks like something my grandfather would have had when he was a kid. As nice as they've made the F150 lets see them update the rest of there line. As for body style, what is up with that drop at the bottom of the window on the doors? Ford = no style in my opinion. Somehow they seam to retain the title of "the best selling trucks"? I don't get it.
To anser the question of this thread, Yes I'd buy the H2 if either Dodge of Ford bought the rights SO LONG AS THEY LEFT IT ALONE, and didn't change anything. except maybe put an Allison transmission into the H2.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RiverRacerX:
Ford builds a damn good truck. The F150 is by far the best looking interior in a truck. What Ford lacks is the motor. That 5.4 w/ 3 Valves just doesn't have the poop that a pushrod motor has. Chevy has the best gas motors available.
Dodge has a great diesel motor, but everything it is wrapped in is sub-par to me. their interiors are horrible.
Pros and cons to everything. I like things on the Chevy..I like things on the Ford. No one makes the ultimate truck because everyone has different needs and tastes. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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11-22-2005, 07:21 PM
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I would have bought the H2 from either. GM is old, slow, and does not seem to care about quality. Check out their Malibu.
The reason I am glad that GM has it is that their PCMs are open architecture whereas Ford and Dodge make people break their codes. As a result, aftermarket power accessories take longer to develop. GM is doing something right wrt their PCMs.
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11-22-2005, 07:25 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar:
The F150 in my opinion does have a great new interior </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
A buddy of mine recently bought new F150 Lariat and I was shocked at how nice the interior is.
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11-22-2005, 07:30 PM
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Not if Ford, Maybe if Dodge. The more intriguing question is what if Jeep bought the rights?
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11-22-2005, 08:00 PM
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That would have been some neet irony if DamilerChrysler bought the Hummer name. I do not think the H2 and H3 would have been what they are now. They would have been extremely soft products. Jeep making car based vehicles? WTF? Plus then owners wouldn't have been able to say they bought american if DC was the owner |
11-22-2005, 10:11 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HummersGoneWild:
I would have bought the H2 from either. GM is old, slow, and does not seem to care about quality. Check out their Malibu.
The reason I am glad that GM has it is that their PCMs are open architecture whereas Ford and Dodge make people break their codes. As a result, aftermarket power accessories take longer to develop. GM is doing something right wrt their PCMs. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
True,but if you are in the circle, FOMOCO has a way of making sure you get the needed support for hi-po tuning.
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What if Ford or Dodge bought the rights to Hummer instead - would you still?
