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04-21-2005, 10:51 AM
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Bill Burke is an experienced off road instructor and guide who frequently works in the Moab area.
http://www.bb4wa.com/letter.htm
I am pleased to say that those from this site who recently visited Moab displayed none of the practices mentioned here.
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04-21-2005, 10:51 AM
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Bill Burke is an experienced off road instructor and guide who frequently works in the Moab area.
http://www.bb4wa.com/letter.htm
I am pleased to say that those from this site who recently visited Moab displayed none of the practices mentioned here.
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04-21-2005, 11:32 AM
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The article is ammusing to me (I like how he takes shots at the bad drivers in built rigs), but the fact that it needed to be written is sad.
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04-21-2005, 11:35 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
Every day I see young kids in Jeeps and compact pickups tearing up the local beaches. They think it's cool to do donuts in the sand next to people enjoying the beach, but it just reinforces the stereotype about 4WD drivers.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey...I am a kid that drives a compact pickup. What are you trying to say?
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04-21-2005, 11:49 AM
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Shaggy he is saying that you are a punk.
I agree, my family had a beach house in Carova, NC. ( my father since lost it to wife #2) It is a beach with wild horses and no asphalt. We had to let almost all of the air out of the Mack U-haul tires to get our furniture in that house. Needless to say, miles down the beach. Anyway, it's beautiful. But it is constantly beat up by amatuer SUVists, especially in the last few years. They do the old swerv up and down the dunes. Beer bottles everywhere. I saw one lady in an Explorer a couple of years ago running it through the surf. Saltwater- not smart. Anyway it was heartbreaking to watch. Some nitwits even started shooting and killing the horses. Pisses me off- sorry for the rant.
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04-21-2005, 12:16 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Shaggy he is saying that you are a punk.
</div></BLOCKQUOTE> Well, as long as that is all he is saying it is fine. I openly admit to being a punk on a regular basis.
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04-21-2005, 12:51 PM
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While in Moab and on Poison Spider/Golden Spike trail, one of the trucks had a minor problem and was being worked on. While the truck was blocking the trail, this young driver cut across a small section of undisturbed soil to get to a go-around trail. Now, it wasn't very far but I lit him up on the ettiquette of staying on the trail. Fact is, he didn't know about the cryptobiotic soil fraility and nobody ever educated him about public perception and projecting the right image of wheelers. He definately does now. It is up to us to do that educating or else as Bill Burke writes, it will be the death of our sport.
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04-21-2005, 01:25 PM
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Look what Bill Burke is putting on in my area:
Bill Burke's On the Road...
2-Day Driver Training Event
Click on logo for comments & links to more pics
On the Road...Anza Borrego
November 5 & 6, 2005
$355./vehicle (1 or 2 adults in vehicle). Limit 8 vehicles.
Call 970-858-3468 to register.
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04-21-2005, 02:15 PM
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Seth...by your logic I never should have tried Golden Spike. Dont get me wrong, I probably shouldnt have...but I stayed on the trail the whole time. Most people in my truck (or a similar truck) would have crapped themselves and made their own trail about 100 yards into it...but I didnt. I just needed a few tugs here and there.
Is it really that difficult to stay on the trail???
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04-21-2005, 02:25 PM
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It looked like Shaggy held his own from the pics anyway, I think the problem is they crapped (period) and started leaving it about 100 yards into it. The article said he buried 5 piles of human effluence- Drty?
Are there any supervisors or rangers out there?
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04-21-2005, 02:27 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
It looked like Shaggy held his own from the pics anyway, I think the problem is they crapped (period) and started leaving it about 100 yards into it. The article said he buried 5 piles of human effluence- Drty?
Are there any supervisors or rangers out there? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>OK...either you completely misunderstood my post...or you intentionally went off on a wild tangent.
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04-21-2005, 02:32 PM
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I am tangentagious. I was just pointing out that one of the main problems is leaving trash and ruining the natural scape.
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04-21-2005, 02:34 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
I am tangentagious. I was just pointing out that one of the main problems is leaving trash and ruining the natural scape. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am so confused right now. I want my mommy.
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04-21-2005, 02:35 PM
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I was being nice to you punk.
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04-21-2005, 02:44 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
I am tangentagious. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Just as long as you are not tangentcontagious
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04-21-2005, 02:49 PM
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Cough *Cough* I don't think so......Hell- I'm going back to the the kitchen now.
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