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02-16-2007, 12:39 PM
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Chains Anyone?
Here in the northeast with the noreaster ice & snow. Wondering how many rule breakers may be chaining up?
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02-16-2007, 07:12 PM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
rather than chain my tires (which hummer highly warns against) why wouldn't you just air down and give your self a nice wide soft foot print tocrawl right on top of the snow? That's what I would do.
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02-16-2007, 09:50 PM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
for snow/ice... the skinnier the better.
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02-16-2007, 09:55 PM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
We are having a cold front moving in, I think it's down to about 55 degrees right now. When I heard it on the news a couple nights ago, I slapped the chains right on. This is my first time using chains on my H2 (used them on the H3 briefly during the rainy season), is it normal that it's tearing up the street a little? Maybe I put them on wrong, traction is OK though.
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02-16-2007, 11:28 PM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
who taught you skinner is better on snow?
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02-17-2007, 01:53 AM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
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who taught you skinner is better on snow?
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I don't know who taught him but it's true, to a point. If it's REALLY deep, you gotta float on top. The H3 would take 44" tires to float on top of snow! To go in the snow, digging down to the road is best for traction. I've done a lot of snow wheeling and the best I've ever done is in a heavy Scout II with 33x9.5s with chains. Nobody else could break trail, jeeps with aired down fat tires included. When I got into the snow so deep that I was plowing with the front bumper, about 2 and a half feet of wet heavy snow, I finally couldn't go anymore. All four wheels were off the ground and freewheeling. That's when we ate lunch. We sat there and watched the three jeeps that were following us digging, winching, cussing and working to turn around and get back in our tracks to go home. If the snow is powdery, anything can drive through it. If it's wet and heavy, you have to float on top and it takes a LOT of tire to do that.
If the snow is deep and freezes a crust and allows you to get part way in before you dig in, you're screwed. We spent four hours one day in snow up to our ballsacks just digging out, getting turned around, and back out when this happened. I've seen abandoned vehicles this happened to. Floating on top is dangerous, if you stop or dig in and it's really deep and you're a long way away from someone, you may be walking out and if you don't have snow shoes, it's gonna be tough.
I have a full set of chains for my H3 for emergencies. They flat work. You can go when no others are going. They're kind of low profile and the I triple zip tie the binders down so that there's little chance of them coming off and tearing the hell out of the fenders. Next time I have 'em on, I'll take a picture.
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02-18-2007, 10:37 PM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
Huck BB62 knows what he's talking about. I was born and raised in California and made frequent trips all over the Sierra Nevada. You think you've seen snow? In the Sierras, they don't measure snowfall in inches, they measure it in FEET. Snow and/or mud on logging roads? The old-timers that live there all have tall, skinny tires. Us yoyo's are sliding around in circles with our wide tires while the locals blow past us on their tall skinnies. And some of them are driving 2-wheel drive pickups. I got stuck in the deep stuff once. My vehicle wouldn't budge, despite two winches yanking on it. We spent about six hours digging and discovered that I was sitting on top of a picnic table. It fit perfectly between my front and rear tires. The "clearing" that we were messing around in was acutually a picnic area in a campground.
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02-18-2007, 11:22 PM
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wow, thats steller.
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02-19-2007, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck BB62
I don't know who taught him but it's true, to a point. If it's REALLY deep, you gotta float on top. The H3 would take 44" tires to float on top of snow! To go in the snow, digging down to the road is best for traction. I've done a lot of snow wheeling and the best I've ever done is in a heavy Scout II with 33x9.5s with chains. Nobody else could break trail, jeeps with aired down fat tires included. When I got into the snow so deep that I was plowing with the front bumper, about 2 and a half feet of wet heavy snow, I finally couldn't go anymore. All four wheels were off the ground and freewheeling. That's when we ate lunch. We sat there and watched the three jeeps that were following us digging, winching, cussing and working to turn around and get back in our tracks to go home. If the snow is powdery, anything can drive through it. If it's wet and heavy, you have to float on top and it takes a LOT of tire to do that.
If the snow is deep and freezes a crust and allows you to get part way in before you dig in, you're screwed. We spent four hours one day in snow up to our ballsacks just digging out, getting turned around, and back out when this happened. I've seen abandoned vehicles this happened to. Floating on top is dangerous, if you stop or dig in and it's really deep and you're a long way away from someone, you may be walking out and if you don't have snow shoes, it's gonna be tough.
I have a full set of chains for my H3 for emergencies. They flat work. You can go when no others are going. They're kind of low profile and the I triple zip tie the binders down so that there's little chance of them coming off and tearing the hell out of the fenders. Next time I have 'em on, I'll take a picture.
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Did you make up your own chains, mod or buy? Your going places with chains others will be stuck. Better than finding/changing skinny shoes for your H3!
The BB62 are you a Navy Battleship NJ Vet?
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02-19-2007, 01:44 AM
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Re: Chains Anyone?
try lookin at this place for your chains
http://www.tirechain.com/Default.htm
I bought a pair from them a year ago for my H1 $94.00, plus a set of tensioners $24.00. they realy saved my ass this weekend. I only have them on the rear. but I'm going to order a set for the front tomorow.
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02-19-2007, 09:31 AM
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HuckBB62
Did you make up your own chains, mod or buy? Your going places with chains others will be stuck. Better than finding/changing skinny shoes for your H3!
The BB62 are you a Navy Battleship NJ Vet?
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I bought mine from Les Schwab in Oregon. They carry them stock for the 285s. The link above for tirechain.com is great, I've bought from them before for tractors and that's where I bought the heavy duty chains for my Scout II. These are what I have for my H3 http://www.tirechain.com/DIAMONDSTYLECARCHAINS.htm
They're ultra easy to install (this is a huge HUGE benefit when you're in the mess by the side of the road, you're freezing, there's a billion other people stacked around you, you're in a hurry and want to get the hell going) and do a fair job. While they say they're not for offroading, they work great. I haven't had them rub yet. The square profile is then next best thing to studs for grabbing the ice. Staying stock with the tire size lets you get away with chains, I wouldn't EVEN try it with 35s! I have no idea as to why they say "no chains" on the H3 when you buy it. If you folks think the H3 is great in snow without chains, you're going to freak when you have 'em on.
Yeah, I'm a battleship sailor, I was on the Jersey in Beruit. You probably saw us on the evening news a few times. She was a ship from a different era.
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Re: Chains Anyone?
HUCK,
Don't lie...
That photo is of a Coast Guard Patrol Boat, I think its the WPB95303.
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02-19-2007, 02:00 PM
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HUCK,
Don't lie...
That photo is of a Coast Guard Patrol Boat, I think its the WPB95303.
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Yeah, you're right. McHale's boat?
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02-19-2007, 06:52 PM
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16" Guns Damn that's huge! Nice shot
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02-19-2007, 11:20 PM
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Yeah, you're right. McHale's boat?
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NO, McHale was a deep water sailor, us Coasties are SHALLOW WATER SAILORS...
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02-19-2007, 11:38 PM
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Huck & Ground Hog,
Thanks for those helpful links
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02-20-2007, 03:00 PM
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I use them on all 4 when on ice. Just make sure that the are on really tight so they dont hit the wells at faster speeds. That is the only thing that will save you on ice. I trotted along at 20mph around corners without any hesitation.
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