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07-21-2007, 08:16 AM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
So this is not bad for VA tourism?
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07-21-2007, 09:49 AM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
I am from Virginia Beach, and traveled 64 and 95 regularly. (And, still hold my VA Driver's License.) In the old days, it seemed the VA cops were lenient on VA speeders. On 95, it always seemed like the had an out-of-state plate pulled over. If this latter was an accurate view, wouldn't this new crazy law possibly shift this to pulling over more VA drivers? Also, I am curious what keeps them from trying to hit non-VAers with these crazy amounts? [After being accustomed to the Autobahn, I am am going to be fearful next week when I am home for my 10-days of home leave.]
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07-21-2007, 03:27 PM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
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I am from Virginia Beach, and traveled 64 and 95 regularly. (And, still hold my VA Driver's License.) In the old days, it seemed the VA cops were lenient on VA speeders. On 95, it always seemed like the had an out-of-state plate pulled over. If this latter was an accurate view, wouldn't this new crazy law possibly shift this to pulling over more VA drivers? Also, I am curious what keeps them from trying to hit non-VAers with these crazy amounts? [After being accustomed to the Autobahn, I am am going to be fearful next week when I am home for my 10-days of home leave.]
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Send us a PM when you get here and we'll take you to dinner.
I agree with you on who's being pulled over. The tourists are easy because they're less likely to contest the officer in court.
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07-21-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
The drinking/driving fines make sense ... it's about time they got more than a slap on the wrist. But the rest is BS. Why search for drugs and contraband when they can check your tire pressure and fine you $1000, wtf!!!
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07-21-2007, 05:11 PM
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Driving as little as 15 mph over the limit on an interstate highway will now bring six license demerit points, a fine of up to $2,500, up to one year in jail, and a new mandatory $1,050 tax.
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Jailtime for speeding hardly generates revenue
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07-21-2007, 07:01 PM
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What the hell is Felony failure to signal?
Felonies and misdemeanors require a culpable mental state. Traffic violations are generally infractions that don't require a mind set.
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thats some crazy $hit man
would suck to live there
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07-21-2007, 07:17 PM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
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What the hell is Felony failure to signal?
Felonies and misdemeanors require a culpable mental state. Traffic violations are generally infractions that don't require a mind set.
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I think you'd get that along with Reckless Driving, DUI, Failure to Yield, Fleeing, stuff like that.
Doesn't matter to me, I always signal.
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07-22-2007, 04:18 AM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
Never have a reason to go to VA anyway.
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07-22-2007, 04:43 AM
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I think you'd get that along with Reckless Driving, DUI, Failure to Yield, Fleeing, stuff like that.
Doesn't matter to me, I always signal.
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Yeah me too..... lol
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08-13-2007, 04:23 AM
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08-13-2007, 03:50 PM
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drive by the rules and you dont have to worry......is there an echo in here??
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08-13-2007, 05:55 PM
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I just got back from visiting Virginia. I kept the needle within about 5 over. I was surprised at how many people were overtaking and undertaking. Can you just imagine a big ol' speed trap, and how many $$$ they score?
There were even a few of those fools -- you know those 2 or 3 guys who like to weave through traffic -- that think they are race car drivers. I guess these particular VA tagged drivers have more money than sense.
In my 10 day visit, I did see 4 cars total pulled over: 3 on the Dulles Airport access road and 1 on 95.
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08-14-2007, 05:29 PM
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From reading the article it only applies to VA residents, WTF? I've never heard of a traffic fine system that treats residents differently, especially giving out-of-staters a break, usually it's the opposite.
The fine for eluding an officer is lower than speeding? That makes no sense under any ethical doctrine and clearly points the fine schedule in the direction of money-grabbing instead of it's proper function as a deterrent.
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08-14-2007, 06:01 PM
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Re: Don't get a traffic ticket in VA!
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That makes no sense under any ethical doctrine and clearly points the fine schedule in the direction of money-grabbing instead of it's proper function as a deterrent.
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That's exactly why the fees were upheld in court yesterday. They are explicitly for raising money.
Four other states have the same type of laws.
On the plus side for out-of-towners, even if your state has reciprocity with VA, it doesn't apply because they "fines" are deemed to be "fees", thus they are a civil matter and don't fall under the reciprocity requirements.
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08-14-2007, 09:44 PM
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DRINK RESPONSIBLY.....
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