Link to 2008 H3 ALPHA Pricing found !!!!

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Mr Snappy

I love when morons type for all the world to see what morons they are...

"Powering the C6 Z06 is a hand-assembled, 7,000-rpm 7.0-liter ? that's 427-cubic-inch ? normally aspirated small-block V8 called the LS7. It's an all-aluminum engine filled with exotic engineering, such as titanium connecting rods and intake valves, sodium-filled exhaust valves, a dry-sump oiling system, a forged-steel crankshaft and computer-machined cylinder-head porting. Horsepower and torque are a mind-bending 505 and 470 lb-ft, and it's all routed to the Vette's massive 19-inch rear tires through a six-speed manual transaxle.

You want more? How about brakes so large they can be seen from outer space, a full aluminum chassis, carbon-fiber front fenders and a magnesium engine cradle? The Corvette's removable roof panel has even been fixed in place to save mass and improve structure."

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=105876

or....

"The second-generation Corvette Z06, unveiled for 2006, serves up two fewer cylinders than the Viper but forsakes nothing in thrust or presence. The LS7 all-aluminum, 7.0-liter small-block V-8--hand-assembled using premium hardware like titanium connecting rods and a dry-sump oil system--is GM's most powerful production car engine ever, delivering 505 fire-breathing horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque. The rest of this special Vette is equally top-drawer: lightweight, all-aluminum chassis; magnesium engine cradle; carbon-fiber front fenders; six-piston cross-drilled front brakes. Hey, did this thing come from Bowling Green--or Lockheed?"

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...pe_comparison/

As far as the pricing goes, this was a tongue & cheek thread that you obviously did not get. Yeah, they guess $35K, but I would probably think that it will be impossible to get one for that. As another posted, the dealers are going to load them with a ton of garbage to jack up the price even more.

Hey Snappy, before you call someone a moron, make sure you read what they posted; or should I say, "Understand what they posted." "I really love the one about the ZO6 engine being assembled by man. Guess what, they are no more assembled by hand then any other engine GM makes." Now, after you read that sentence, tell me which engine GM makes for the Corvette that is assembled by a machine? In fact, which engines are made by GM that are not basically assembled by hand?
Let's see, I have spent some time in a few engine plants, and spent a lot of time in BG, so I know a bit about Vettes.
Do I need to make a comment in regard to quotes from Edmunds. com or Motortrend.com. Both good places, but nothing you stated in these cut and pastes from their websites, contradicts anything I have mentioned. They do show that you get your information from the Web, while I get mine at work.


As for moronic postings, let's look.
You believe in a site called "how things work." I don't, but I'm not a moron.
You believe Chevy makes the LS9 engine? I KNOW for a FACT they don't. But you believe they do...talk about a moron.
You believe if you purchase the H3 Alpha, you will get a better suspension. You won't get any better suspension than what is on the standard H3. Only difference is it will be beefed to accomodate the higher weight. But in the end, it will equal itself out.


Now, Snappy, is there anything else you wanted to say about morons and posting? (PS I have been called a hell of a lot worse than a moron. ).
Well, time to get back to work; the "Devil" is waiting and she is very "Blue."

[usetosellhummer]

Snappy, you need to learn something when in here....
Fstop guy here is a GM guy who bleeds blue so do not under any condition doubt or question his information on GM products. And thank him casue when you need help on info when your Alpha takes a dump or you want to hook a gey pod to it. This is the guy that will save you.


Hail Fstop, long may your knowledge flow to the belivers and hethans!!!!

[HummBebe]

ALL HAIL F5FSTOP!!!

ALL OTHERS CAN EAT CAKE

[Mr Snappy]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

Hey Snappy, before you call someone a moron, make sure you read what they posted; or should I say, "Understand what they posted." "I really love the one about the ZO6 engine being assembled by man. Guess what, they are no more assembled by hand then any other engine GM makes." Now, after you read that sentence, tell me which engine GM makes for the Corvette that is assembled by a machine? In fact, which engines are made by GM that are not basically assembled by hand?
Let's see, I have spent some time in a few engine plants, and spent a lot of time in BG, so I know a bit about Vettes.
Do I need to make a comment in regard to quotes from Edmunds. com or Motortrend.com. Both good places, but nothing you stated in these cut and pastes from their websites, contradicts anything I have mentioned. They do show that you get your information from the Web, while I get mine at work.




As for moronic postings, let's look.
You believe in a site called "how things work." I don't, but I'm not a moron.
You believe Chevy makes the LS9 engine? I KNOW for a FACT they don't. But you believe they do...talk about a moron.
You believe if you purchase the H3 Alpha, you will get a better suspension. You won't get any better suspension than what is on the standard H3. Only difference is it will be beefed to accomodate the higher weight. But in the end, it will equal itself out.


Now, Snappy, is there anything else you wanted to say about morons and posting? (PS I have been called a hell of a lot worse than a moron. ).
Well, time to get back to work; the "Devil" is waiting and she is very "Blue."

hmmm, I'm just a little confused here ....

How is it that this is from the Chevrolet web site....

"Inside every Z06 is an LS7 aluminum-block V8. It puts out an SAE-certified (Society of Automotive Engineers) 505 hp and 470 lb.-ft. of torque. Hand-built at the GM Performance Build Center in Wixom, Mich., the LS7 engine contains a litany of racing-derived components, such as an eight-quart dry-sump lubrication system, titanium valves and connecting rods, forged-steel crankshaft with six-bolt main bearings, high-profile cam, and Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) machined heads for better air/fuel flow. Even with its performance, the engine does not incur a federal government gas-guzzler penalty."

Yet you claim to be such an expert on all things "GM"

Lets see. I claimed it was Hand Built ----> Yup, says so right there.
You claim it was not built by GM, but wait, there it states it is built at the "GM Perfromance Center in Wixom, Mich" huh.....

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

Maybe I just don't see your Genius here....maybe, when GM says that they hand build the motor to different specs with different components than a standard LS, they actually mean they use a crate motor from some mystery supplier. So, either you don't have a clue what you are talking about or GM is purposely lying to us.

As far as the whole notion of "Hand built", yes, I will agree with you that they are all hand assembled to a point. The original posting was that they are not simply putting a bigger engine into a Z06, but that the engine is special and that GM did a host of other things to that version of the Corvette.


I am new here and don't really know you, so I will shut up on this point. But it seems to me that your information does not square up with what is publically available information.

[HummBebe]

You are obviously one big swinging with a huge chip on his shoulder.

Let me be the first to politely ask you to SHOVE OFF DICK!

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Mr Snappy

hmmm, I'm just a little confused here ....

How is it that this is from the Chevrolet web site....

"Inside every Z06 is an LS7 aluminum-block V8. It puts out an SAE-certified (Society of Automotive Engineers) 505 hp and 470 lb.-ft. of torque. Hand-built at the GM Performance Build Center in Wixom, Mich., the LS7 engine contains a litany of racing-derived components, such as an eight-quart dry-sump lubrication system, titanium valves and connecting rods, forged-steel crankshaft with six-bolt main bearings, high-profile cam, and Computer Numerical Controlled (CNC) machined heads for better air/fuel flow. Even with its performance, the engine does not incur a federal government gas-guzzler penalty."

Yet you claim to be such an expert on all things "GM"

Lets see. I claimed it was Hand Built ----> Yup, says so right there.
You claim it was not built by GM, but wait, there it states it is built at the "GM Perfromance Center in Wixom, Mich" huh.....

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

Maybe I just don't see your Genius here....maybe, when GM says that they hand build the motor to different specs with different components than a standard LS, they actually mean they use a crate motor from some mystery supplier. So, either you don't have a clue what you are talking about or GM is purposely lying to us.

As far as the whole notion of "Hand built", yes, I will agree with you that they are all hand assembled to a point. The original posting was that they are not simply putting a bigger engine into a Z06, but that the engine is special and that GM did a host of other things to that version of the Corvette.


I am new here and don't really know you, so I will shut up on this point. But it seems to me that your information does not square up with what is publically available information.

What you really have to do, Mr. Snappy, is learn to read and comprehend. Maybe I type too fast for you to understand. So, let me type this really slow so that I can answer your questions?.

Your statement:
Lets see. I claimed it was Hand Built ----> Yup, says so right there.
You claim it was not built by GM, but wait, there it states it is built at the "GM Perfromance Center in Wixom, Mich" huh.....

My Statements:
?A engine borrowed from Chevy? Cool, didn't know Chevy made engines anymore. I guess they must have purchased GM powertrain. Hell, the LS engines are NOT made by Chevy.?
?You believe Chevy makes the LS9 engine? I KNOW for a FACT they don't.?

Maybe a technicality, but CHEVY DOES NOT MAKE ENGINES, and if you read your statement, you might see that it also SAYS GM, NOT CHEVY. I have never stated the engine was not manufactured by GM, but it is NOT manufactured by Chevrolet. GMPT (aka GM Powertrain) is the manufacturer on record. Maybe it is a technicality, but it is not a true statement to say Chevy makes the engine. Chevrolet Motor Division, does assemble the vehicle, at one of their plants, owned by General Motors. To say I?m screwing with you, would be more accurate. Now that you have made it personal, it will be more fun.

Your statement:
Maybe I just don't see your Genius here....maybe, when GM says that they hand build the motor to different specs with different components than a standard LS, they actually mean they use a crate motor from some mystery supplier. So, either you don't have a clue what you are talking about or GM is purposely lying to us.

My Statement to this:
Have I said they built this engine to the same specs as the LS2? No, I just stated that hand assembly by humans is no big thing, since it is very common to assemble an engine using Human hands. Stop trying to find my Genius, I?ll be the first to acknowledge, I am NOT a genius, but I DO KNOW GM Powertrains, and I know what is coming in the future, but can?t say a damn thing about that.

Again, Mr. Snappy, please read my previous posts and I think you will discover that the problem lies with you not really reading what I have written. So, the next time you call someone a Moron, make sure that the statement does not apply to yourself. It is usually a good thing to wait a few posts to really know the person you are insulting on the Internet.

I?m willing to let it lie; it is time to move on now?are you?

Have a great day.

[Mr Snappy]

Yeah,
the word "Moron" was a little inflamatory....but it was response to your post about how "hilarious" it was that we were talking about GM stuff when we were obviously to dumb to know the truth, at least that is was I read into it.

My apolagies to my bad choice of words.

[Mr Snappy]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

You are obviously one big swinging with a huge chip on his shoulder.

Let me be the first to politely ask you to SHOVE OFF DICK!

Not sure what this discussion had to do with you, but it's a free country. Thanks for the nice words and have a great day !

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by Mr Snappy

Yeah,
the word "Moron" was a little inflamatory....but it was response to your post about how "hilarious" it was that we were talking about GM stuff when we were obviously to dumb to know the truth, at least that is was I read into it.

My apolagies to my bad choice of words.

I think it need to be a little more sincere than that....try again.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Mr Snappy

Yeah,
the word "Moron" was a little inflamatory....but it was response to your post about how "hilarious" it was that we were talking about GM stuff when we were obviously to dumb to know the truth, at least that is was I read into it.

My apolagies to my bad choice of words.

Apology accepted. My original statement appears to have been misunderstood. I was knocking the fact there are probably at least five, maybe upward to twenty, threads on the Alpha; what it will have, what it will cost, and what it will do.
Hell, as I have stated quite a few times, I do not even know the price, but I can guess it will be in the 40K range, just from knowing GM. I really HOPE I'm wrong in that statement.

Got to go and get my TP squares all ready for tomorrow.