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02-10-2010, 07:47 AM
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Finally bought a toy hauler
After many many many years of searching/researching I finally purchased a 27 foot Eclipse Attitude toy hauler. This is the first toy hauler that I can safely pull with my h2 and still be semi comfortable in it. Pretty decent floor plan. Just came back from a trip to Glamis and the H2 handled quite well, only thing that sucked was that I averaged 7.5 mpg towing the trailer up there and 11 mpg on the way back (I left the toy hauler out there).
I should be getting the 4:56 gears installed next week and will see how it improves my towing mpg on 37 toyo MT's..
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02-13-2010, 12:02 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
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After many many many years of searching/researching I finally purchased a 27 foot Eclipse Attitude toy hauler. This is the first toy hauler that I can safely pull with my h2 and still be semi comfortable in it. Pretty decent floor plan. Just came back from a trip to Glamis and the H2 handled quite well, only thing that sucked was that I averaged 7.5 mpg towing the trailer up there and 11 mpg on the way back (I left the toy hauler out there).
I should be getting the 4:56 gears installed next week and will see how it improves my towing mpg on 37 toyo MT's..
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Congrats. looks like a beauty. Yes, unfortunately, the H2 is not the most ideal towing vehicle. (thus the reason mine is getting the diesel conversion done now... so I can tow)
Changing to 4.56's will give you about 2mpg tops increase.
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02-13-2010, 06:51 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
That is a nice setup you have! I've wanted to go to Glamis ever since I got into the UTV's. You are lucky to have all the toys to enjoy them out there!
you may want to look into help bags for the rear if you are running coil springs. That may help your ride a little as well. That should help from squating and squating more when starting from a complete stop.
What is your local shop charging you for the gears?
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02-17-2010, 09:55 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
Thanks, got the 4:56 gears put in today and new stainless steel brake lines. Wow! What a difference! When flooring the h2 from a stand still I feel the tires break loose when it shifts...Drove 200 miles tonight and only used a half tank of gas.. If I recall correctly this has never happened. Before I would average 220 miles per tank, best case scenario 240, allbeit it was mostly city driving and tonight was mainly highway miles, but nonetheless I noticed a major overall improvement! The car drives much smoother and with more power.... Brake lines stop much better as well.. I paid $1400 for the new gears installed and total $280 for new brake lines installed. IMO if you have big tires and rims the gear change is a must. I wish I would have changed it sooner when gas prices were $5 a gallon.
Glamis has been a blast, I have been there the past 2 weekends. I use a wait distribution hitch and that brings up the rear end substantially. As pictured I am full with water so it brings down the rear end a bit, but when I tow dry and toys are in the back it only sags about an inch. I looked into getting the airbags and after MUCH research I found out they are pointless. The h2 has springs and the air bags go inside the springs which will eventually pop.
Your best bet is to tow dry, put more weight on the rear of the trailer to alleviate the hitch weight and to use a weight distribution hitch.
Hopefully next purchase will be a used RZR S...
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02-18-2010, 02:15 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
What is the weight of the towed rig and are you using a Trailer brake set up on the H2?
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02-18-2010, 07:49 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
6300 lbs and I am using a brake controller.
In addiiton I got the upgraded brake package on the toy hauler, awesome stopping power.
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02-18-2010, 09:46 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
very nice, my wife is always asking me too buy a house on the beach you just gave me a idea.
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02-18-2010, 06:00 PM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
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6300 lbs and I am using a brake controller.
In addiiton I got the upgraded brake package on the toy hauler, awesome stopping power.
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So your H2's Max CVW package is 15k pounds accourding to the manual that's with luggage and passengers and cargo . Your just about there. Do you have a tranny temp gauge and or an another tranny cooler in line with the factory unit.? Does she run with in the temp ranges both engine and tranny while hauling?
That is a sweet looking set up...Very nice rig.
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02-18-2010, 11:09 PM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
Yes I am at the limit, keep in mind I only towed once for a 230 mlie trip. She towed fine and the temps didnt get too high (2/3 of the way on the tranny temp gauge was the norm). I do have the stock tranny cooler... I was told she will tow much better with the new 4:56 gears, I will be towing the trailer back in a few weeks and will update the board.
Keep in mind the majority of my towing is for local driving, mainly flat roads. So I was told I dont need to upgrade the tranny cooler. Not sure how the vehicle would react in the middle of summer going up steep grades.
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02-18-2010, 11:15 PM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
Very nice. Too bad I'm still broke
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02-19-2010, 03:42 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
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Yes I am at the limit, keep in mind I only towed once for a 230 mlie trip. She towed fine and the temps didnt get too high (2/3 of the way on the tranny temp gauge was the norm). I do have the stock tranny cooler... I was told she will tow much better with the new 4:56 gears, I will be towing the trailer back in a few weeks and will update the board.
Keep in mind the majority of my towing is for local driving, mainly flat roads. So I was told I dont need to upgrade the tranny cooler. Not sure how the vehicle would react in the middle of summer going up steep grades.
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Cool... Yes you are at the limit but as long as you keep the weight down around the CGVW and tow on flat roads you should be ok... In the summer is a different story going up hills..DooooooooH!!!
Maybe you can figure a way to Air Condiction the Tanny fluid ...
Maybe a Cool Can Filled with Ice from Summitt Racing ...
The only issue is if you pop a tranny under warranty...make sure you tell them you were towing your Ski Doo
Other wise that's one very nice looking rolling home.. Maybe some inside pic's would be nice...
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02-19-2010, 04:04 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
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6300 lbs and I am using a brake controller.
In addiiton I got the upgraded brake package on the toy hauler, awesome stopping power.
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Out of curiousity, what upgraded brakes did you do?
I figure when I get the H2 back from the diesel conversion, I'm definitely going to want better brakes.
Thanks,
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02-19-2010, 05:26 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
hi nice toy hauler, i could use one of those.
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02-19-2010, 08:08 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
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Out of curiousity, what upgraded brakes did you do?
I figure when I get the H2 back from the diesel conversion, I'm definitely going to want better brakes.
Thanks,
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Sorry I wasnt clear, the toy hauler itself has the upgraded brake package, the person who installed my brake controller was extremely impressed by the stopping power of the trailer. I havent towed much so I wouldnt know the difference, but again the tech said they have excellent stopping power. Enough stopping power where I didnt need to upgrade the brake lines in H2, but I had already purchased them so I went ahead with it.
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02-23-2010, 08:09 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
Very nice toy hauler! Gotta love toys!
Are gears good for gas mileage if you have stock wheel size?
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
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Sorry I wasnt clear, the toy hauler itself has the upgraded brake package, the person who installed my brake controller was extremely impressed by the stopping power of the trailer. I havent towed much so I wouldnt know the difference, but again the tech said they have excellent stopping power. Enough stopping power where I didnt need to upgrade the brake lines in H2, but I had already purchased them so I went ahead with it.
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Cool, thanks for the reply.
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03-16-2010, 08:30 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
Well no real improvement in towing with the H2. I added a 1k rzr s to the mix and I think I got around 6 mpg. Needless to say, I wouldnt suggest anyone doing the upgrade if they are trying to tow a heavy trailer...
I am in the market now for a used diesel 2500....
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03-17-2010, 09:32 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
After all your research is the brand you bought stand out in any special way or did just all overall features put it on the top of the list.
I'm thinking of getting a toy hauler but, it would be in the 20ft. length. I do not have many others that would use it with me and haul just 1 4 wheeler.
I appreciate any info or advice. My climate is not usually to harsh in winter but, it is really hot in summer. We grow rice as a part of farming so that can give you and idea. I need I guess 1 with a northern insulating rating.
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03-17-2010, 10:12 AM
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
The trailer constuction/design was outstanding from A to Z including the interior design (they had a feng shui expert help them out) . It fells more homely inside vs a garage like the standard toy hauler. My suggestion is to look at all of them before making a decision. Mine has a seperate bedroom in the front with a queen walk around bed which gives it a bit of privacy and comfort vs going with one big room.
They do have an upgrade for the AC unit and insulation as well. Also I would always suggest going for the biggest size you can pull, you never know what other toys you may want to add later. Ex. I recently purchased that RZR S and fortunately I can store the rzr and my atv in the toy hauler.
Many factors to consider but one I wish I would have serioulsy looked at was how often are you going to move the trailer. Ex. my trailer will be left in the rv storage in Glamis 7 months out of the year, so my actuall hauling of the trailer is minimal. Since I am upgrading to a diesel truck anyways, I would have seriously considering purchasing a 5th wheel TH.
Check out some of the local forums as well, they have a ton of info.
Also as far as hot temperatures are concerned the dealer said it can only cool about 20 degrees cooler than outside. So if it is 100 outside, they can only get it down to 80. I will try it out this summer and see if this is true.
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Re: Finally bought a toy hauler
Thanks Much!!!!!
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