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04-07-2006, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
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OK. First, let me assure you, I am not bashing Michigan. I'm from Michigan.
BUT, when I first moved to southern CA (along with a couple other guys I worked with), a couple of us took up mountain biking. One of the first things we noticed in CA was that the hills came up alot faster and were alot steeper. Usually, we were not ready for them and found ourselves in the wrong gear at the wrong time (especially when starting up a new hill!).
One of the CA natives, having observed this bumbling maneuver a few times, name it the "Michigan Gearshift", in honor of us MI guys who had not yet adjusted to the CA terrain. Well, as much of an honor as it might have been, none of us wanted to be on the receiving end of that comment as a description of our hill climbing prowess, so we all eventually adjusted our shifting strategy.
I mention this story, because I personally have taken a similar approach when driving my H3.
I ordered my truck so I could get exactly the options I wanted, and after much back-and-forth deliberation, I decided to get the automatic transmission. I did not want to, but after driving a 6-speed Z-28 on the 405 for a few years, the idea of not having to juggle my phone, a cup of coffee and the stick shift all at the same time was REALLY appealing. The off-roader in me was saying, "Manual, Manual, Manual", but the freeway driver was saying, "95% of your time will be on the freeway, not the trails!" The freeway driver had a strong arguement.
Well, once I got the truck and was over the thrill of just having it, I started to evaluate its performance. One of the first things I noticed about performance was the anemic shifting algorithms in the transmission. I really longed for a stick. With only 4 gears, there are a lot of speeds where the transmission picks the wrong gear for the situation and you end up with no torque. After thinking about it, I guess this makes sense. The transmission does not know what's coming up (like a steep hill!). So, I found that when I hit a fairly steep hill (and there are plenty of them here), the truck would slow down significantly before automatically shifting gears. Not pleasant.
So, I've adopted a new strategy. When I see a hill coming up that I know will be a struggle for the automatic to properly manage, I simply shift into 3rd gear (or 2nd, depending on speed) BEFORE I get to the hill. That way, I don't slow down at all when engaging the steep part of the hill. When I crest the hill, I just shift back up a gear.
Just because the truck has an automatic transmission does not mean you can not MANUALLY use the other gears.
Personally, I find 3rd gear to be a very responsive gear to use for climing freeway hills or for passing. Considering the fact that you basically need to be over 3K RPM's to be in the engine's torque/horse power comfort zone, and you are still a long ways from the red line, I can see no reason not to use the automatic in sort-of a manual mode when performance is important. If I'm just cruising (or drinking coffee and talking on the phone), then fine. Let the automatic do what it does. But, when I want the truck to perform more predictably, I tend to treat the automatic more like a manual.
I've read the reviews that complain about having to use 3rd for passing or whatever, but I don't agree that this is something to complain about. The way I see it, letting the transmission do its thing is going to give me the best fuel economy. But, when performance is the goal, who cares about fuel economy? On its worst day, the H3 is going to get 50% better gas mileage than other similar trucks (no specific names mentioned here), so why not use the lower gears and higher RPM's?
To me, this is not a bad thing. It's just the way it is. We all would like to have more horse power (another topic), but we all like the fuel economy. A truck of this weight, with full time AWD and big-@ss high-inertia tires on it is not going to give both. So, we live with the power it has. Which, in my oppinion, is plenty if managed properly.
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04-07-2006, 01:05 AM
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welcome to california good points in your post even more so if runnin 35's
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04-07-2006, 01:17 AM
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Bravo bravo!!!!!!
Thanks for taking the time to write that all down. It is a very good point.
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04-07-2006, 01:45 AM
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Yea good points (learn to drive folks is what this says nicely)
Driving a DOHC 4 valve inline 5 is done differently from driving a high torque huge pushrod 2 value low reving V8.
S.
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04-07-2006, 02:28 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: On the Beach or at the River
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I agree with needing an automatic with the traffic here, but did you really mean to say this?
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Well, once I got the truck and was over the thrill of just having it,
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04-07-2006, 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by hmrlvr:
I agree with needing an automatic with the traffic here, but did you really mean to say this?
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Yea I think some of us take a more critical look at everything on our H3's over time.
S.
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04-07-2006, 05:33 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Southern California
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OK Good point. But, I think you know what I'm saying...I'm trying to be objective. We all know the thrill associated with with the initial acquisition. After that, we start thinking about how to optimize what we have and what after market stuff would enhance what we like best about the H3.
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I agree with needing an automatic with the traffic here, but did you really mean to say this?
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Well, once I got the truck and was over the thrill of just having it,
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04-07-2006, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Great point, I've been living with a manual for seven years on my jeep and thought maybe I should get tha auto now that I am old...naw I sticking with the manual on the H3 too many hills in upstate NY and I need to teach my kids how to drive a stick. One of my kids said your not really driving unless your driving a stick shift, she doesn't even have her licence yet!
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